josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »I will be happy to get rid of Streak if it means getting rid of Cloak, and staying rid of wings. Sounds like a win-win-win to me.
GeorgeBlack wrote: »josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »I will be happy to get rid of Streak if it means getting rid of Cloak, and staying rid of wings. Sounds like a win-win-win to me.
Ye it will happen further down the track.
Why dont you play tetris in the meantime? Come back later and enjoy an empty game
Emma_Overload wrote: »50% damage reduction on projectiles is one of the best buffs in the game, period. Any other class would be THRILLED to have it. The problem is that it only renders attacks mostly ineffective and only makes the DK almost unkillable. Spoiled DKs like the OP want a spell that renders them TOTALLY IMMUNE to projectile damage, LOL. Nah, scratch that, they want to be immune to damage AND to kill enemy casters with their own reflected spells!
Emma_Overload wrote: »50% damage reduction on projectiles is one of the best buffs in the game, period. Any other class would be THRILLED to have it. The problem is that it only renders attacks mostly ineffective and only makes the DK almost unkillable. Spoiled DKs like the OP want a spell that renders them TOTALLY IMMUNE to projectile damage, LOL. Nah, scratch that, they want to be immune to damage AND to kill enemy casters with their own reflected spells!
Emma_Overload wrote: »50% damage reduction on projectiles is one of the best buffs in the game, period. Any other class would be THRILLED to have it. The problem is that it only renders attacks mostly ineffective and only makes the DK almost unkillable. Spoiled DKs like the OP want a spell that renders them TOTALLY IMMUNE to projectile damage, LOL. Nah, scratch that, they want to be immune to damage AND to kill enemy casters with their own reflected spells!
zParallaxz wrote: »As I said many times before. Wings had no counter. No slotting one non reflectable skill is not a counter, slotting more is killing your build just to counter one skill of a one class (unlike with cloak where you don't even have to slot any additional skills, just use det potion like I do).
I voted for making wings to reflect 3 projectiles per user not per cast as it used to be only at range greater than 10m, unfortunately DKs wanted to preserve their I win button vs ranged classes, so they lost their crutch.
I still think that change proposed above would be more balanced and more fun for DKs (big middle finger to snipe spammers and the rest cowards that are afraid to get closer) and possibility for fair fights vs enemies that don't afraid to brawl in close range.
Don’t most ranged classes have the advantage though when the dk doesn’t use wings? So how exactly is it a “I win button”
Trancestor wrote: »"jUsT DiSiNgAgE"
Are you kidding me...
*Joins a BG with 4 enemy wing spammers* "JuSt AbAnDoN tHe BG"
Morons.
"JuSt ChAnGe YoUr WhOLe bUiLd tO CoUnTeR oNe SkiLL"
Idiots.
GeorgeBlack wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »"jUsT DiSiNgAgE"
Are you kidding me...
*Joins a BG with 4 enemy wing spammers* "JuSt AbAnDoN tHe BG"
Morons.
"JuSt ChAnGe YoUr WhOLe bUiLd tO CoUnTeR oNe SkiLL"
Idiots.
Ye ima not risk another ban colouring you.
Again the problem is that instead of having a PTS cycle to nerf the ability with a fatigue cost so that magDK wont spam it, you noobs got a skill deleted.
Trancestor wrote: »"jUsT DiSiNgAgE"
Are you kidding me...
*Joins a BG with 4 enemy wing spammers* "JuSt AbAnDoN tHe BG"
Morons.
"JuSt ChAnGe YoUr WhOLe bUiLd tO CoUnTeR oNe SkiLL"
Idiots.
GeorgeBlack wrote: »Emma_Overload wrote: »50% damage reduction on projectiles is one of the best buffs in the game, period. Any other class would be THRILLED to have it. The problem is that it only renders attacks mostly ineffective and only makes the DK almost unkillable. Spoiled DKs like the OP want a spell that renders them TOTALLY IMMUNE to projectile damage, LOL. Nah, scratch that, they want to be immune to damage AND to kill enemy casters with their own reflected spells!
Ill take your bolt esc. You can have the 50% ranged dmg reduction.
It will look cool with my Wings animation. How thrilled do you feel on a scale of 1-10?
apart from ultimates, wings were a way for a DK to escape a difficult situation.
While NB have cloak, sorcs have tp, templars have purge, warden have speed and necro have a set of everything comibned...
now DK are forced to play as strong as possible, reducing their damages.
and the 50% mitigation are totally useless, because the point about wings was to avoid to be knocked down.
Emma_Overload wrote: »50% damage reduction on projectiles is one of the best buffs in the game, period. Any other class would be THRILLED to have it. The problem is that it only renders attacks mostly ineffective and only makes the DK almost unkillable. Spoiled DKs like the OP want a spell that renders them TOTALLY IMMUNE to projectile damage, LOL. Nah, scratch that, they want to be immune to damage AND to kill enemy casters with their own reflected spells!
zParallaxz wrote: »As I said many times before. Wings had no counter. No slotting one non reflectable skill is not a counter, slotting more is killing your build just to counter one skill of a one class (unlike with cloak where you don't even have to slot any additional skills, just use det potion like I do).
I voted for making wings to reflect 3 projectiles per user not per cast as it used to be only at range greater than 10m, unfortunately DKs wanted to preserve their I win button vs ranged classes, so they lost their crutch.
I still think that change proposed above would be more balanced and more fun for DKs (big middle finger to snipe spammers and the rest cowards that are afraid to get closer) and possibility for fair fights vs enemies that don't afraid to brawl in close range.
Don’t most ranged classes have the advantage though when the dk doesn’t use wings? So how exactly is it a “I win button”
Lol seriously. It was I win button because of what you wrote. Eventhough ranged had a bit of advantage vs DKs that didn't used gapcloser just because [insert some excuse], when DK started to spam wings it was pointless to fight them despite they were trash players. This skill was carrying bad players for far to long.
Well deserved nerf of incredibly irritating skill in my opinion. If you can call it nerf lol.
DanStartheFirst wrote: »Well deserved nerf of incredibly irritating skill in my opinion. If you can call it nerf lol.
Have you ever played DK>? A class that has no ranged abilities other than poop rock and you think it having one ability that let it get close enough to do damage instead of just eating ranged abilities while it can't do anything. It was a class staple since release and they basically deleted the ability how about deleting cloak while you are at it. You seem like one of those people that just sits back and enjoys spamming snipe or hard casting crystal frags with no worries about doing so.
DanStartheFirst wrote: »Well deserved nerf of incredibly irritating skill in my opinion. If you can call it nerf lol.
Have you ever played DK>? A class that has no ranged abilities other than poop rock and you think it having one ability that let it get close enough to do damage instead of just eating ranged abilities while it can't do anything. It was a class staple since release and they basically deleted the ability how about deleting cloak while you are at it. You seem like one of those people that just sits back and enjoys spamming snipe or hard casting crystal frags with no worries about doing so.
Have you every tried Empowering Chains? It'll really mess up a range spammers day.
All playstyles have to adjust for cloak, but one playstyle shouldn't have to adjust for wings. Good argument. I don't even play DK by the way, I play exclusively Magplar. I just hate to see this game become a weird first person shooter because of a complete lack of altruism from #$*;+;** millennials.
Trancestor wrote: »All playstyles have to adjust for cloak, but one playstyle shouldn't have to adjust for wings. Good argument. I don't even play DK by the way, I play exclusively Magplar. I just hate to see this game become a weird first person shooter because of a complete lack of altruism from #$*;+;** millennials.
Magplar main, the class with the best kit to deal with reflectable wings (and cloak), telling other classes to adjust when you don't need to yourself, what a surprise. The number one reason why so much stupid crap is said in these forums is because you people have exeperience with only one class, experience the other side before talking about things you have no idea about.
DanStartheFirst wrote: »Well deserved nerf of incredibly irritating skill in my opinion. If you can call it nerf lol.
Have you ever played DK>? A class that has no ranged abilities other than poop rock and you think it having one ability that let it get close enough to do damage instead of just eating ranged abilities while it can't do anything. It was a class staple since release and they basically deleted the ability how about deleting cloak while you are at it. You seem like one of those people that just sits back and enjoys spamming snipe or hard casting crystal frags with no worries about doing so.
Have you every tried Empowering Chains? It'll really mess up a range spammers day.
DanStartheFirst wrote: »Well deserved nerf of incredibly irritating skill in my opinion. If you can call it nerf lol.
Have you ever played DK>? A class that has no ranged abilities other than poop rock and you think it having one ability that let it get close enough to do damage instead of just eating ranged abilities while it can't do anything. It was a class staple since release and they basically deleted the ability how about deleting cloak while you are at it. You seem like one of those people that just sits back and enjoys spamming snipe or hard casting crystal frags with no worries about doing so.
Have you every tried Empowering Chains? It'll really mess up a range spammers day.
only if you are able to close the 20 mts gap between the snipe spammer and you. And don't mention those guys spamming snipe from up the wall's keep, those were the worst.
I remember when extended chains allowed you to pull them of the walls
DanStartheFirst wrote: »Well deserved nerf of incredibly irritating skill in my opinion. If you can call it nerf lol.
Have you ever played DK>? A class that has no ranged abilities other than poop rock and you think it having one ability that let it get close enough to do damage instead of just eating ranged abilities while it can't do anything. It was a class staple since release and they basically deleted the ability how about deleting cloak while you are at it. You seem like one of those people that just sits back and enjoys spamming snipe or hard casting crystal frags with no worries about doing so.
Have you every tried Empowering Chains? It'll really mess up a range spammers day.
only if you are able to close the 20 mts gap between the snipe spammer and you. And don't mention those guys spamming snipe from up the wall's keep, those were the worst.
I remember when extended chains allowed you to pull them of the walls