One of many reasons I avoid the Imperial City like the plague. As I've said in the past - that entire zone is basically designed to troll you while fulfilling the sadistic desires of players who enjoy causing frustration to others. Just avoid it and spare yourself. Because all you're accomplishing by going into that hell hole (especially if you are alone) is entertaining some ___ ____ at your own expense. And I don't know about you - but I have better things to do with my time than that.
Good stay out, buy your Hakejio from ppl willing to go down there.
Why does every zone have to for everybody?
You paid for the game. That entitles you to play the game. Now the game has set the rules for different areas.
You don't like the rule set for an area, don't go there. Simple. You need something from there deal with the rules.
Any of the stuff available from there can be obtained via other players afaik.
If ppl wanna fight each other there, just let em... you and your pixels can be safe in pve zones...
As others have said Tel Var is unique to the game and the risk of loss is what makes it fun. It is the only part of the game where there is a penalty for dying. Personally I think it is fun. I'm average at best with PvP but still manage to come out with a lot of Tel Var. I like taking 10,000 out of the bank and then drop down into the sewers as far from home as I can and try to make it back home.
If you don't enjoy the hunt you can do as others have also suggested. Take advantage of the guild traders and use your gold to get what others get with Tel Var. Win/win they get the fun of hunting for Tel Var and you get access to the goods.
Fluke.Slywalker wrote: »Sidenote: You can easily farm large amounts of Tel Var by sticking to the rooms close to your sewer HQ, farm chests and mobs and the 2 closest bosses - just gotta watch for the big guys - but you can easily leg it back to your HQ if you aggro them as you're close.
But yeah farming up top is a nightmare, good fun though
Girl_Number8 wrote: »IC has a lot of fun things that has made it a weekly guild event. It has a unique risk level to it, which is increased by going to the center to farm and topside. You can also get lots of useful items for crafting, plus gear, and three polymorphs and a pet and a skin. If that risk wasn't there it simply wouldn't be fun.
Khedrakb14_ESO wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »IC has a lot of fun things that has made it a weekly guild event. It has a unique risk level to it, which is increased by going to the center to farm and topside. You can also get lots of useful items for crafting, plus gear, and three polymorphs and a pet and a skin. If that risk wasn't there it simply wouldn't be fun.
That risk you like so much. You can have it.
That risk is NOT fun in any way.
There should be another FUN way to obtain these items that so far are only available with PVP currency.
Khedrakb14_ESO wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »IC has a lot of fun things that has made it a weekly guild event. It has a unique risk level to it, which is increased by going to the center to farm and topside. You can also get lots of useful items for crafting, plus gear, and three polymorphs and a pet and a skin. If that risk wasn't there it simply wouldn't be fun.
That risk you like so much. You can have it.
That risk is NOT fun in any way.
There should be another FUN way to obtain these items that so far are only available with PVP currency.
Is there another way to get raid gear or dungeon sets? How about arena weapons?
Khedrakb14_ESO wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »IC has a lot of fun things that has made it a weekly guild event. It has a unique risk level to it, which is increased by going to the center to farm and topside. You can also get lots of useful items for crafting, plus gear, and three polymorphs and a pet and a skin. If that risk wasn't there it simply wouldn't be fun.
That risk you like so much. You can have it.
That risk is NOT fun in any way.
There should be another FUN way to obtain these items that so far are only available with PVP currency.
Is there another way to get raid gear or dungeon sets? How about arena weapons?
Let pvers take half your dungeon drops at random, you don’t get to choose which ones.
Cundu_Ertur wrote: »I started with 0, put 4 in the bank, so I only need 4996 more to get a hakeijo.
I have better purpose.
make IC not alliance-wise.
Make it max group of 2 ppl and all except your teammate are enemy to you, that can kill you and get 50% of your stones.
And delete sigil of retreat.
It would be way more interesting.
Kuningatar wrote: »Kuningatar wrote: »Just because some jerks wanted to attack her? This one minds her own business in Imperial City and fights the monsters!
IC is a PvP zone.
Woosh.
Khedrakb14_ESO wrote: »As others have said Tel Var is unique to the game and the risk of loss is what makes it fun. It is the only part of the game where there is a penalty for dying. Personally I think it is fun. I'm average at best with PvP but still manage to come out with a lot of Tel Var. I like taking 10,000 out of the bank and then drop down into the sewers as far from home as I can and try to make it back home.
If you don't enjoy the hunt you can do as others have also suggested. Take advantage of the guild traders and use your gold to get what others get with Tel Var. Win/win they get the fun of hunting for Tel Var and you get access to the goods.
ROFLMAO
The risk is what make it NOT fun! Fun is not losing hard earned items.
I'm not a PVPer at all, don't really enjoy it. Thought I'd give IC a go because of the event, and I really don't mind losing some of the TV stones but omg 50% of whatever I have on me ALL the time? That's too much in my opinion. I understand the risk and the danger, but that's too much lol. I'm fine with everything else cus everyone plays the game differently and enjoys different things.
Kuningatar wrote: »Kuningatar wrote: »Just because some jerks wanted to attack her? This one minds her own business in Imperial City and fights the monsters!
IC is a PvP zone.
Woosh.
Double woosh.
It’s a PvP zone and the risk/reward is what makes it fun. Play it safe by your faction area or improve your PvP skills.
Daimonion82 wrote: »Kuningatar wrote: »Kuningatar wrote: »Just because some jerks wanted to attack her? This one minds her own business in Imperial City and fights the monsters!
IC is a PvP zone.
Woosh.
Double woosh.
It’s a PvP zone and the risk/reward is what makes it fun. Play it safe by your faction area or improve your PvP skills.
I would like to see your improved PVP skills while group of players attacks you. The problem is - PVP players have horrible attitude towards PVE players. "We're better, deal with our superiority, adapt or get lost, hahaha!" Attacking lonely player with overwhelming forces doesn't make you superior, you know? It makes you miserable, deal with it.
I just don't get that toxic behaviour towards PVE players. You really think you can make someone to like PVP if you treat him like filth all the time?
Daimonion82 wrote: »I would like to see your improved PVP skills while group of players attacks you. The problem is - PVP players have horrible attitude towards PVE players. "We're better, deal with our superiority, adapt or get lost, hahaha!" Attacking lonely player with overwhelming forces doesn't make you superior, you know? It makes you miserable, deal with it.
I just don't get that toxic behaviour towards PVE players. You really think you can make someone to like PVP if you treat him like filth all the time?
Khedrakb14_ESO wrote: »One of many reasons I avoid the Imperial City like the plague. As I've said in the past - that entire zone is basically designed to troll you while fulfilling the sadistic desires of players who enjoy causing frustration to others. Just avoid it and spare yourself. Because all you're accomplishing by going into that hell hole (especially if you are alone) is entertaining some ___ ____ at your own expense. And I don't know about you - but I have better things to do with my time than that.
Good stay out, buy your Hakejio from ppl willing to go down there.
Why does every zone have to for everybody?
You paid for the game. That entitles you to play the game. Now the game has set the rules for different areas.
You don't like the rule set for an area, don't go there. Simple. You need something from there deal with the rules.
Any of the stuff available from there can be obtained via other players afaik.
If ppl wanna fight each other there, just let em... you and your pixels can be safe in pve zones...
Then lock all PVP players out of PVE zones because not everything should be accessible to everybody, as you say.
Everone can easily play PVE zones and get all the rewards.
Only people that actually like PVP get the really good rewards from the PVP zones. So screw the rest of the players.
If there is a PVP system in an MMO then there should be a way for all players PVP and PVE to play the way they want to and still be able to get the same rewards in some way or another.
Khedrakb14_ESO wrote: »Losing Tel Var Stones is a joke. PVP is bad enough and then you add losing something when a player kills you. *** this ***!
This event or Part of ESO would be so much better if you didn't lose your hard earned items that your trying to save up. Not to mention they still have not added a PVE only Cyrodiil or Imperial Sewers for those of us that just want to participate in the story and NOT the PVP.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »I'm not a PVPer at all, don't really enjoy it. Thought I'd give IC a go because of the event, and I really don't mind losing some of the TV stones but omg 50% of whatever I have on me ALL the time? That's too much in my opinion. I understand the risk and the danger, but that's too much lol. I'm fine with everything else cus everyone plays the game differently and enjoys different things.
Back in the early days of Imperial City, you used to lose 80% of your tel var to players.
50% is easy street ...
Khedrakb14_ESO wrote: »One of many reasons I avoid the Imperial City like the plague. As I've said in the past - that entire zone is basically designed to troll you while fulfilling the sadistic desires of players who enjoy causing frustration to others. Just avoid it and spare yourself. Because all you're accomplishing by going into that hell hole (especially if you are alone) is entertaining some ___ ____ at your own expense. And I don't know about you - but I have better things to do with my time than that.
Good stay out, buy your Hakejio from ppl willing to go down there.
Why does every zone have to for everybody?
You paid for the game. That entitles you to play the game. Now the game has set the rules for different areas.
You don't like the rule set for an area, don't go there. Simple. You need something from there deal with the rules.
Any of the stuff available from there can be obtained via other players afaik.
If ppl wanna fight each other there, just let em... you and your pixels can be safe in pve zones...
Then lock all PVP players out of PVE zones because not everything should be accessible to everybody, as you say.
Everone can easily play PVE zones and get all the rewards.
Only people that actually like PVP get the really good rewards from the PVP zones. So screw the rest of the players.
If there is a PVP system in an MMO then there should be a way for all players PVP and PVE to play the way they want to and still be able to get the same rewards in some way or another.
Difference: pvpers are willing to play in pve rules. Cant say it for pve'ers though. i havent seen a "dO iHaVEto PvE forR tHis" thread where we have the tons of opposite threads.
Khedrakb14_ESO wrote: »One of many reasons I avoid the Imperial City like the plague. As I've said in the past - that entire zone is basically designed to troll you while fulfilling the sadistic desires of players who enjoy causing frustration to others. Just avoid it and spare yourself. Because all you're accomplishing by going into that hell hole (especially if you are alone) is entertaining some ___ ____ at your own expense. And I don't know about you - but I have better things to do with my time than that.
Good stay out, buy your Hakejio from ppl willing to go down there.
Why does every zone have to for everybody?
You paid for the game. That entitles you to play the game. Now the game has set the rules for different areas.
You don't like the rule set for an area, don't go there. Simple. You need something from there deal with the rules.
Any of the stuff available from there can be obtained via other players afaik.
If ppl wanna fight each other there, just let em... you and your pixels can be safe in pve zones...
Then lock all PVP players out of PVE zones because not everything should be accessible to everybody, as you say.
Everone can easily play PVE zones and get all the rewards.
Only people that actually like PVP get the really good rewards from the PVP zones. So screw the rest of the players.
If there is a PVP system in an MMO then there should be a way for all players PVP and PVE to play the way they want to and still be able to get the same rewards in some way or another.
Difference: pvpers are willing to play in pve rules. Cant say it for pve'ers though. i havent seen a "dO iHaVEto PvE forR tHis" thread where we have the tons of opposite threads.
^ this guy is right you know?
When I need gear I farm it, I switch to PvE setup and do better than 80% of pvers, Ive carried whole "PvErs" groups through nonDLC vet HM dungs - like Tempest Island where all 3 other players are lying on the floor because I was sick and tired of ressing them and finally Ive soloed last boss. Just because you don't PvP it doesn't mean you are a PvEr.
About Tel Vars.
Tel Vars are literally the only awesome reward from PvP and they should stay like that, PvE have all the rest. TBH in this game PvP rewards are still very poor when compared to other MMOs so don't whine.
In general:
Sets avaible at vendors in towns should be much more useful in PvP.
Also we should be able to buy sacks with dung (not trials) gear for APs (DLC sacks should be unlocked only for those who own the DLC or ESO+).