Why are you ESO+

outabody · August 2019

Craft bag has been amazing

JusticeForJilarga · August 2019

Emmagoldman wrote: »

I paid for the year subscription and im just waiting for it to run out

This one is thinking of getting a Year subscription.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · August 2019

DLC access, craft bag, and double bank and housing space is my main reason. The ESO+ deals and monthly crowns are a nice bonus too.

noob in denial · August 2019

Am not eso+ anymore. Game performance and balance killed my mood for it.

Caligulove · August 2019

It's just crazy good value if you play the game a fair amount. The craft bag alone, as many have mentioned, is huge. There's the DLC, the experience and gold buff, the double bank space, 1650 crowns every month, and more.

Donari · August 2019

The moment I got that crafting bag I knew I could not bring myself to play without it. I also love dyeing costumes. Then they added the extra bank and house space and, well, packrat that I am dropping the sub would mean dropping the game. I may not play the game much, I am not all that good at the game, but so long as I can afford to pay the sub I will do so. This is because I have a history of subbing to and supporting the games a friend of mine works on so as long as that friend is there, so am I

Which is a very individual reason, I know, unlikely to be the case for any other ESO+ person out there.

shamuISdead · August 2019

New player to the game here. Would it be worth adopting ESO+ from the getgo? I've historically been the type of purchaser to wait until the goty version the the game came out....that was the way I experienced Oblivion for the first time in 2010 and it was awesome!

Partomax · August 2019

I've answered this question so many times I don't understand why it keeps popping up.

I have ESO for the following reasons (by order of importance, the first being the most important) :

Crafting bag and extra bank space
DLC access
Crowns (same price as buying crowns)
10% xp bonus

wenchmore420b14_ESO · August 2019

Davor wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

I do it to show my support for ESO. Plain and simple.
Have played since day one, and subbed since day one, when sub was mandatory and continued after it became B2P.

Now lets discuss that, ZoS changing to B2P......
The REAL reason ZoS left the mandatory system was because of Microsoft and Sony.
When consoles were about to be added a year after launch, they both had a sub system of their own. They would not work with each other or with ZoS and as it was, Ps4 and XBox users would have to pay 2 sub fees to play ESO.
So ZoS decided to drop the mandatory sub and offer ESO+ for those who wished to continue subbing but letting console players play without paying 2 subs.
I remember one of the 2 were willing to work with ZoS on this but the other wouldn't, but forgot which one.
So remember, ZoS did this as a kindness to console players.
Huzzah!!!

No, I don't think this is the case at all. If it was, Zenimax would have gave the middle finger to Sony and or Microsoft and just stuck with PC. After all, why loose all that GUARANTEED money just to go to console?

There is a reason why WoW is not on console. Thing was, that ESO was a failure, and had to drop the sub and needed consoles for the fresh blood. I am sure Zenimax would have charged for a subscription fee if they knew they can get away with it. After all, you can get ESO+ on consoles, so that means it could have been subscription based as well.

Subscription based ESO was a failure. Simple as that. Only when One Tamriel came out is when ESO started to become good. At least for me and many others.

Sorry @Davor, but yes that was what happened. I was here. Since closed beta and played every day and was on forums every day. I read all the dev and news articles about it. Might take some searching, but proof is there.
Consoles were put back over a year due to UI issues between controllers and M&K.
The subscription issue was why Zos changed sub system.
Consoles are over 2/3rds of player base. Bethesda has always been console friendly. TES3 was a flagship game for XBox in 2002. They have a relationship that goes back decades and ZoS was not about to exclude this base and income, so they adapted.
Love your post's tho and general agree with you on most things... "Have a fishy stick!"..
Huzzah!!!

barney2525 · August 2019

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Orjix wrote: »

I'm going to be the one guy that sticks his head in and screams "IM NOT" as loud as he can. i refuse to pay for anything with a subscription model, i don't use nexflix or hulu, and I dont pay for streaming services, free spotify and pandora work fine. hell, i even use a pay-as-you-go phone, if i want something i want to be able to make a one time purchase, not a fan of subscriptions.

Subscription-based gaming is different from subscription-based services.

You don't pay Netflix or Spotify anything upfront to use the service. Subscription-based games charge you full price for the base game and expansions, in addition to a sub to actually be able to play the game you bought. MMO publishers love to double dip, and I'm shocked the MMO community supports this model as quite frankly, it's a scam. The games should either be fully B2P or fully subscription-based, not both.

Not all games have an up front cost. A Lot do not. Archeage, neverwinter, SWTOR, anything from Arc just to name a few. All just download free and start playing, with an option to buy a sub, which gives you benefits that the F2P game does not.

Davor · August 2019

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

I do it to show my support for ESO. Plain and simple.
Have played since day one, and subbed since day one, when sub was mandatory and continued after it became B2P.

Now lets discuss that, ZoS changing to B2P......
The REAL reason ZoS left the mandatory system was because of Microsoft and Sony.
When consoles were about to be added a year after launch, they both had a sub system of their own. They would not work with each other or with ZoS and as it was, Ps4 and XBox users would have to pay 2 sub fees to play ESO.
So ZoS decided to drop the mandatory sub and offer ESO+ for those who wished to continue subbing but letting console players play without paying 2 subs.
I remember one of the 2 were willing to work with ZoS on this but the other wouldn't, but forgot which one.
So remember, ZoS did this as a kindness to console players.
Huzzah!!!

No, I don't think this is the case at all. If it was, Zenimax would have gave the middle finger to Sony and or Microsoft and just stuck with PC. After all, why loose all that GUARANTEED money just to go to console?

There is a reason why WoW is not on console. Thing was, that ESO was a failure, and had to drop the sub and needed consoles for the fresh blood. I am sure Zenimax would have charged for a subscription fee if they knew they can get away with it. After all, you can get ESO+ on consoles, so that means it could have been subscription based as well.

Subscription based ESO was a failure. Simple as that. Only when One Tamriel came out is when ESO started to become good. At least for me and many others.

Sorry @Davor, but yes that was what happened. I was here. Since closed beta and played every day and was on forums every day. I read all the dev and news articles about it. Might take some searching, but proof is there.
Consoles were put back over a year due to UI issues between controllers and M&K.
The subscription issue was why Zos changed sub system.
Consoles are over 2/3rds of player base. Bethesda has always been console friendly. TES3 was a flagship game for XBox in 2002. They have a relationship that goes back decades and ZoS was not about to exclude this base and income, so they adapted.
Love your post's tho and general agree with you on most things... "Have a fishy stick!"..
Huzzah!!!

Not in a mood to go digging all the way back then. I recall some of the things you just mentioned. I will concede I am wrong.

Davor · August 2019

shamuISdead wrote: »

New player to the game here. Would it be worth adopting ESO+ from the getgo? I've historically been the type of purchaser to wait until the goty version the the game came out....that was the way I experienced Oblivion for the first time in 2010 and it was awesome!

I would say yes. You don't need to buy any "DLC" BUT you do have to buy the "stories", but if you wait a year, I believe the "stories" become DLC then. I don't know when you bought ESO, so not sure if you have Morrowind or not. For the life of me I don't know if Summerset is included or not. All I remember is Morrowind is now a DLC and no longer a story.

The craft bag is huge incentive. If you are a horder, it's a must. For 50 cents a day it made my enjoyment of ESO so much better. Add in you get the 1650 crowns and the other perks, is great as well. The way I see it, is supporting Zenimax, by buying 1650 crowns, and get the craft bag, all DLC for free and the other perks.

Please don't take DLC as the cash store. When Zenimax says DLC it means the bigger DLC they put out 3 times a year, and the once a year story you have to buy.

Still a great deal. So if you get ESO+ my suggestion is go start the first part of the dark brother hood quest. You will get something called the Blade of Woe. After you get it, you don't need to finish the quest off if you don't want to.

Reason I get that right away when ever I make a new character, for me, I make believe I am knocking out the people instead of killing them, since they come back a few minutes later. So for my roll play, it helps that I can knock out people instead of killing.

Just make sure you get one month. This way if you don't like it, you can cancel it. Once cancelled you will no long have access to the DLC unless you bought some of them, and you will NOT loose anything you got while you had ESO+ so you will still have Blade of Woe, and what ever weapons, armour, what not. If you went over the bank space, it's still there, all that will happen is you can't add to it. I have subbed on and off. When you resub, everything comes back.

So if you don't mind the $22 a month (Canadian plus taxes, not sure where you live what it would be) I say it's great for me and would recommend it. Funny I wouldn't play ESO with a mandatory sub, but I will pay to support them since they have given us I believe a great reason to sub.

Hope this helps.

generalmyrick · August 2019

craft bag

Drunk_Owl · August 2019

I sub to support the game - but the perks really make the game playable.

grkkll · August 2019

1. craft bag
2. DLC

for me the rest is just useless crud

whitecrow · August 2019

Not having to worry about inventory slots.

Regular supply of crowns.

KalinRan · August 2019

I buy ESO+ for the craft bag and extended slots.
And since I don't actually buy any DLC, eso+ keeps all DLC free for me.

It's just generally a good deal. You can absolutely play without it if you don't like it, but compared to most other mmos out there it's hard to find anything of the same high quality with ESO that *doesn't* milk you for cash worse than livestock.
In contrast ESO isn't as moneyhungry, but it's still a business and needs to make profit. Sustaining a game of this size still costs a tremendous amount of money.

I also enjoy the idea that I help keep the game alive, even if 0.1%

coletas · August 2019

I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion

Deathlord92 · August 2019

To support the game as I do love eso craft bag dlcs etc. I still hope they will fix the laggy pvp 🙏

CommanderGuts · August 2019

All the benefits are great but the craft bag is my main reason.

CaptainBones · September 2019

Mainly for the craft bag and dlc but the crowns and xp are a nice bonus.

Davor · September 2019

coletas wrote: »

I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion

I had to quote this as my sig. Love it. I will credit you in my sig, but not sure if you would like that or not.

coletas · September 2019

Davor wrote: »

coletas wrote: »

I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion

I had to quote this as my sig. Love it. I will credit you in my sig, but not sure if you would like that or not.

Take It if you want

Is something that lot of friends thinks too.

StabbityDoom · September 2019

Craftbag, dlcs, mainly. The storage etc are excellent tho when you are into housing.

Tigerseye · September 2019

MasterSpatula wrote: »

The game should be sub-only, but that didn't work. That's on the players.

It's really not, actually.

I played at launch and the game was fun and refreshing in its design, but super-buggy.

In my case, my laptop at the time wasn't up to the job, either and I wasn't happy that I couldn't move like I could move in other games, like WoW (i.e. with one hand, without having to turn the camera/aim separately).

It gave me pain in my shoulder and even though I have got used to moving this way, now, it still does.

They didn't have to make it like that - most MMOs I've played don't.

They give you the option to do either.

So, I was basically forced to leave for multiple reasons.

I think if the game we have today was sub-only, it would probably get enough subs, especially if the performance (lagging and crashing) was sorted out.

Despite the fact that you are still forced to move in one way only.

AbysmalGhul · September 2019

Inventory space

Ahnog · September 2019

As the good book says, the laborer is worthy of his hire.

Saelent · September 2019

I tripped over while trying to cancel and ended up with a year subscription, just kept clicking the wrong things. >.>

Aelorin · September 2019

Indeed OP, the bank slots, housing slots, and craft bag are too good to pass up. And even then my bank is full sometimes.

xMovingTarget · September 2019

Dlc and craftbag.

But I did not renew now. Zos delivers a *** product, *** updates nobody asked for and doesn't fix classes core mechanics.
Not seeing my money anymore.
Other than raiding 1-2 times a week. I ain't login in anyway anymore. The game became not enjoyable with scale breaker. And my class is so buggy, the game is more frustrating than anything.