But you spending real money on the game is the point of having crowns?

Nihirisutou not works so, maybe you dont know it, now every players can gift you almost everything, but you have to give them gold in exchange for the necessary crowns.

Ya, they would lose huge amounts of money. As it is, every crown has to be purchased by someone with real money. It’s the only way ZOS would implement such a program. I would think this system is actually profitable. As a new player, all you have to do is buy some crowns and sell gold and become an instant in-game millionaire. Just a “legal” way to buy gold. Cuts out the online middle-men. Smart move ZOS.

While this would be a net gain in usability it would almost certainly result in unfavorable exchange rates for consumers compared to the current situation. The house always wins.

Runs wrote: »

If anything they could add the ability to sell them in guild kiosks.

As far as a straight up gold to crown conversion from ZOS itself, there is no money in that. It would end up being a net loss, probably a huge one.

Just let me do this:

Buy as gift
Blank recipient
Item appears as a container
List it in guild store

It’s so easy

todokete wrote: »

gw2 does this why not eso

Because ZOS are too greedy to think in such directions.

STO has a good system here, they have a dilithium/zen exchange, there are bottom and top caps on the exchange rate and the market fluctuates depending on the scarcity of either. The amount of gold in ESO at this point would make a gold/crown exchange rate highly unfavourable, but if ZOS introduced a new currency such as crown crystals which you earn from dailies and other events then it could work.

ThePlayer wrote: »

Why doesn't ZOS create a system to allow players to change gold into crown?
In this way players cannot be scammed by other players or subjected to rules managed by other players for not knowing what reason, like 1 crown 500 gold if you want to be safe or similar.
The price of the crown grows, why do i have to be tied to other players? why do i need to enrich other players with the so-called brokers? Please team ZOS answer me, I'm curious.
I have been ESO + for a long time but now i have decided not to be a sub because i am tired of these continuous mistakes of ZOS in managing almost everything, i will buy the dlc with the price set by others but at least i will not spend real money for the game.

ZOS need a Central Market like BDO.

@Fischblut Yeah, it would be sooo much better if ZOS managed to do something like that! But clearly they can't or won't create a safe trade option... for some reason... even though it would be common sense. We can't even refund Crown Gifts, nor can we use it ourselves if the gift recipient refuses them. Quite annoying.

1) During the last Crown Store gifting promotion, I was exchanging gifts with a player. He asked for a Shrubbery Pack, and I asked for a Chandelier and two Sconces - we calculated it would be roughly equal in Crown cost.
2) Since there is no simultaneous safe trade option, one of us just had to send the gift first with no guarantee that the other would reciprocate. Hardly ideal.
3) But okay, we ended up trusting each other so fine, but we also can't see what the other person is planning to trade until after the gifting is already complete... and he accidentally sent two Chandeliers and one Sconce... which ended up costing more Crowns than we had discussed. He couldn't refund the extra Chandelier, so he would have been stuck with it on the gift screen without actually being able to use it himself, so I just accepted it even though I really only wanted one.
4) And I also ended up paying him gold to make up for the Crown price difference between what I sent him and what he sent me, and essentially ended up with 1 Sconce missing, less gold and an extra Chandelier I didn't really need.

Anyway, sorry for the rant. ESO's gifting system is just so rubbish it's pissing me off.

JamieAubrey wrote: »

If I'm selling crowns to anyone outside my guild, I'll get someone to be the middle man, so they will send the gold to that person and once they confirm they have it, I'll send over the gift

That makes no sense you know. If the buyer is already willing to hand over the gold to the broker before getting the gift from you, then surely you could just ask them to hand over the gold to you before you send them a gift? You can cut out the broker from this example entirely and you would still have a 100% safe trade.

Brokers or guarantors are needed only when you're the one who has to hand over the currency first. So instead of handing over a bunch of gold and hoping that the Crown seller will send them a gift instead of disappearing with the money, Crown buyers will find it useful to go through one of the exchange groups that guarantee that they will get their gold returned to them if the other party refuses to deliver on the promised item. I can see them benefiting from a broker arrangement, but since you're the one who's selling Crowns you really don't get any benefit, and may even end up with less gold than if you had traded without a third party, due to their fees.

It should be like the Neverwinter market (last I checked) was

People post their crowns for desired price etc

ArchMikem wrote: »

The point to Crowns is to provide ZOS additional funding beyond the initial sale of a game copy. Yknow how quick they'd hemorrhage cash if players could just grind crowns?

Every single crown is paid for, either directly or through monthly stipend. Nobody would be buying crowns directly with gold, they'd be buying crowns that were bought with RL money.

The one BIG problem with allowing it is giving incentive to gold sellers and botters.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

ThePlayer wrote: »

Why doesn't ZOS create a system to allow players to change gold into crown?

Because that nets them no profit.
But players exchanging cold, hard cash into crowns... that is money in their pocket.
Duh!

Yes it does net them profit. People buy crowns, people sell crowns.

Can't buy them with gold if nobody is buying them with RL cash.

Holycannoli wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

The point to Crowns is to provide ZOS additional funding beyond the initial sale of a game copy. Yknow how quick they'd hemorrhage cash if players could just grind crowns?

Every single crown is paid for, either directly or through monthly stipend. Nobody would be buying crowns directly with gold, they'd be buying crowns that were bought with RL money.

The one BIG problem with allowing it is giving incentive to gold sellers and botters.

A player supplied Crown market?