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Gold-> Crown exchange system!!
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Why doesn't ZOS create a system to allow players to change gold into crown?
In this way players cannot be scammed by other players or subjected to rules managed by other players for not knowing what reason, like 1 crown 500 gold if you want to be safe or similar.
The price of the crown grows, why do i have to be tied to other players? why do i need to enrich other players with the so-called brokers? Please team ZOS answer me, I'm curious.
I have been ESO + for a long time but now i have decided not to be a sub because i am tired of these continuous mistakes of ZOS in managing almost everything, i will buy the dlc with the price set by others but at least i will not spend real money for the game.
Edited by ThePlayer on August 24, 2019 11:04PM In this way players cannot be scammed by other players or subjected to rules managed by other players for not knowing what reason, like 1 crown 500 gold if you want to be safe or similar.
The price of the crown grows, why do i have to be tied to other players? why do i need to enrich other players with the so-called brokers? Please team ZOS answer me, I'm curious.
I have been ESO + for a long time but now i have decided not to be a sub because i am tired of these continuous mistakes of ZOS in managing almost everything, i will buy the dlc with the price set by others but at least i will not spend real money for the game.
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nihirisutou✭✭✭But you spending real money on the game is the point of having crowns?
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Runs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭If anything they could add the ability to sell them in guild kiosks.
As far as a straight up gold to crown conversion from ZOS itself, there is no money in that. It would end up being a net loss, probably a huge one. -Edit- He is not talking about ZOS providing the crowns but a safe system to exchange where players can't get scammed.Edited by Runs on August 26, 2019 4:11PMRuns| Orc Nightblade • Chim-el Adabal| Dunmer Templar • M'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
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ThePlayer✭✭✭✭Nihirisutou not works so, maybe you dont know it, now every players can gift you almost everything, but you have to give them gold in exchange for the necessary crowns.Edited by ThePlayer on August 24, 2019 10:42PM0
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chess1ukb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Considering they cannot even get a group finder to work I think they should not be adding any new systems to the game at this time. Also not until after the dreadful performance of the servers especially on PC EU is resolved.11 -
carlos424✭✭✭✭✭Ya, they would lose huge amounts of money. As it is, every crown has to be purchased by someone with real money. It’s the only way ZOS would implement such a program. I would think this system is actually profitable. As a new player, all you have to do is buy some crowns and sell gold and become an instant in-game millionaire. Just a “legal” way to buy gold. Cuts out the online middle-men. Smart move ZOS.2 -
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They could easily do it like WoW did. It's a net gain, rather than a loss.As far as a straight up gold to crown conversion from ZOS itself, there is no money in that. It would end up being a net loss, probably a huge one.
The WoW Token costs $20 irl money to buy. Player1 can sell this to Player2 in exchange for ingame gold (via the Auction House only, for a set region-wide price that changes based on current demand and supply). Player2 can then either use the Token to add $15 to their Battle-net Balance (money they can use to buy Blizzard games and cash shop cosmetics) or redeem it for a month of Subscription (the price of a sub is normally $15). It's a win for the company either way.
Other games have better ways of handing this too; GW2 has a direct currency exchange, and SWTOR allows cash shop items to be traded between players. ESO's the only one that makes it unnecessarily convoluted and problematic.11 -
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✭While this would be a net gain in usability it would almost certainly result in unfavorable exchange rates for consumers compared to the current situation. The house always wins.forever stuck in combat3 -
ThePlayer✭✭✭✭Soon all the rich players will always wins and will arrange all the game.
Of course everything must be done fairly, ZOS cannot create a 700 gold -> 1 crown exchange system0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If anything they could add the ability to sell them in guild kiosks.
As far as a straight up gold to crown conversion from ZOS itself, there is no money in that. It would end up being a net loss, probably a huge one.
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Buy as gift
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✭STO has a good system here, they have a dilithium/zen exchange, there are bottom and top caps on the exchange rate and the market fluctuates depending on the scarcity of either. The amount of gold in ESO at this point would make a gold/crown exchange rate highly unfavourable, but if ZOS introduced a new currency such as crown crystals which you earn from dailies and other events then it could work.Skyrim Red Shirts. Join us at https://skyrimredshirts.co.ukJoin Skyrim Red Shirts. Free trader. We welcome all, from new players to Vets. A mature drama-free social group enjoying PVE questing, PvP, Dungeons, trials and arenas. Web, FB Group & Discord. Guild Hall, trial dummy, crafting, transmutation, banker & merchant. You may invite your friends. No requirements0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I do not think Zos should create a means to directly change crowns into gold. That just sounds like they are directly stepping into the gold trading business.
Zos should make it so anything in the crown store that can be gifted can be obtained via a token that can be listed on a trader. That would permit us to avoid the risks we currently have.
This token could also be traded directly between players but that assumes the risk of scammers. It is never wise to trade with someone you have no clue about to begin with.1 -
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They could easily do it like WoW did. It's a net gain, rather than a loss.As far as a straight up gold to crown conversion from ZOS itself, there is no money in that. It would end up being a net loss, probably a huge one.
The WoW Token costs $20 irl money to buy. Player1 can sell this to Player2 in exchange for ingame gold (via the Auction House only, for a set region-wide price that changes based on current demand and supply). Player2 can then either use the Token to add $15 to their Battle-net Balance (money they can use to buy Blizzard games and cash shop cosmetics) or redeem it for a month of Subscription (the price of a sub is normally $15). It's a win for the company either way.
Other games have better ways of handing this too; GW2 has a direct currency exchange, and SWTOR allows cash shop items to be traded between players. ESO's the only one that makes it unnecessarily convoluted and problematic.
That sounds like an interesting system, it'd be nice if we could get subscription for in-game gold in ESO as well.
To the OP: if you are on PCNA, the current rate is 1:225 with TCE. However, I doubt ZOS would ever answer in regards to gold->crowns transaction matters, because it's not a feature they officially endorse. It's a result of the crown gifting implementation (and of course they are aware that it generates more crown sales for them, and imo part of why they implemented it), but they don't officially endorse it, so they won't make statements about things like exchange rates, brokering, and so on.0 -
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✭✭Why doesn't ZOS create a system to allow players to change gold into crown?
In this way players cannot be scammed by other players or subjected to rules managed by other players for not knowing what reason, like 1 crown 500 gold if you want to be safe or similar.
The price of the crown grows, why do i have to be tied to other players? why do i need to enrich other players with the so-called brokers? Please team ZOS answer me, I'm curious.
I have been ESO + for a long time but now i have decided not to be a sub because i am tired of these continuous mistakes of ZOS in managing almost everything, i will buy the dlc with the price set by others but at least i will not spend real money for the game.
ZOS need a Central Market like BDO.1 -
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✭✭I would love if, in addition to current gifting, we also got ability to add crown store items directly in player-to-player trade window
Rough example of how it can look like (no, gem items can't be gifted or traded, I've just used a screenshot of crown crate content' preview for this example):
1) While in trading interface, you can now also choose "Browse Crown Store" (store icon) in your offer.
2) It opens store and you navigate in like you normally do, but when you press "Gift" button on some item, it will add this item to list of your offerings in trading window (instead of opening Gifting window). You must have enough crowns to be able to select your offerings, of course
3) Other player sees your offer, then adds their offer. If you both approve, everything happens at the same time:
- crowns are charged from your acount and the crown store item is unlocked for other player
- you get whatever the other player has offered you
100% safe, no delay and no worries. Same gifting system as we have now, but without any chance to be scammed 3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If I'm selling crowns to anyone outside my guild, I'll get someone to be the middle man, so they will send the gold to that person and once they confirm they have it, I'll send over the gift0 -
ThePlayer✭✭✭✭JamieAubrey-> this person you talking about is called broker and do not it for free, want the 5% or more..3
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✭✭✭@Fischblut Yeah, it would be sooo much better if ZOS managed to do something like that! But clearly they can't or won't create a safe trade option... for some reason... even though it would be common sense. We can't even refund Crown Gifts, nor can we use it ourselves if the gift recipient refuses them. Quite annoying.
1) During the last Crown Store gifting promotion, I was exchanging gifts with a player. He asked for a Shrubbery Pack, and I asked for a Chandelier and two Sconces - we calculated it would be roughly equal in Crown cost.
2) Since there is no simultaneous safe trade option, one of us just had to send the gift first with no guarantee that the other would reciprocate. Hardly ideal.
3) But okay, we ended up trusting each other so fine, but we also can't see what the other person is planning to trade until after the gifting is already complete... and he accidentally sent two Chandeliers and one Sconce... which ended up costing more Crowns than we had discussed. He couldn't refund the extra Chandelier, so he would have been stuck with it on the gift screen without actually being able to use it himself, so I just accepted it even though I really only wanted one.
4) And I also ended up paying him gold to make up for the Crown price difference between what I sent him and what he sent me, and essentially ended up with 1 Sconce missing, less gold and an extra Chandelier I didn't really need.
Anyway, sorry for the rant. ESO's gifting system is just so rubbish it's pissing me off.
That makes no sense you know.JamieAubrey wrote: »If I'm selling crowns to anyone outside my guild, I'll get someone to be the middle man, so they will send the gold to that person and once they confirm they have it, I'll send over the gift
If the buyer is already willing to hand over the gold to the broker before getting the gift from you, then surely you could just ask them to hand over the gold to you before you send them a gift? You can cut out the broker from this example entirely and you would still have a 100% safe trade. 
Brokers or guarantors are needed only when you're the one who has to hand over the currency first. So instead of handing over a bunch of gold and hoping that the Crown seller will send them a gift instead of disappearing with the money, Crown buyers will find it useful to go through one of the exchange groups that guarantee that they will get their gold returned to them if the other party refuses to deliver on the promised item. I can see them benefiting from a broker arrangement, but since you're the one who's selling Crowns you really don't get any benefit, and may even end up with less gold than if you had traded without a third party, due to their fees.Edited by bluebird on August 25, 2019 4:55PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The point to Crowns is to provide ZOS additional funding beyond the initial sale of a game copy. Yknow how quick they'd hemorrhage cash if players could just grind crowns?CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭✭✭✭✭It should be like the Neverwinter market (last I checked) was
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Just because OP is asking for an exchange ran by ZOS doesn't mean the Crowns would come from ZOS.The point to Crowns is to provide ZOS additional funding beyond the initial sale of a game copy. Yknow how quick they'd hemorrhage cash if players could just grind crowns?
GW and WoW's currency exchanges are also ran by the company (i.e. through a central interface controlled by the system not by players with prices set based on server-wide demand and supply) and the two selling parties are not in contact with each other whatsoever, you don't even know who you 'traded' with, it's just all handled through an automatic exchange.0 -
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✭✭The point to Crowns is to provide ZOS additional funding beyond the initial sale of a game copy. Yknow how quick they'd hemorrhage cash if players could just grind crowns?
Every single crown is paid for, either directly or through monthly stipend. Nobody would be buying crowns directly with gold, they'd be buying crowns that were bought with RL money.
The one BIG problem with allowing it is giving incentive to gold sellers and botters.0 -
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✭✭TheShadowScout wrote: »
Yes it does net them profit. People buy crowns, people sell crowns.
Can't buy them with gold if nobody is buying them with RL cash.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭nihirisutou wrote: »But you spending real money on the game is the point of having crowns?
What they need to do is create an in-game system for trading gold for crowns between players (like in GW2). That way, every crown is bought.Edited by MLGProPlayer on August 26, 2019 1:02AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Holycannoli wrote: »The point to Crowns is to provide ZOS additional funding beyond the initial sale of a game copy. Yknow how quick they'd hemorrhage cash if players could just grind crowns?
Every single crown is paid for, either directly or through monthly stipend. Nobody would be buying crowns directly with gold, they'd be buying crowns that were bought with RL money.
The one BIG problem with allowing it is giving incentive to gold sellers and botters.
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