Gold-> Crown exchange system!!

bluebird

Holycannoli wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

The point to Crowns is to provide ZOS additional funding beyond the initial sale of a game copy. Yknow how quick they'd hemorrhage cash if players could just grind crowns?

Every single crown is paid for, either directly or through monthly stipend. Nobody would be buying crowns directly with gold, they'd be buying crowns that were bought with RL money.

The one BIG problem with allowing it is giving incentive to gold sellers and botters.

I don't see why it would give incentive to gold sellers. You can't convert Crowns into real life money so gold sellers wouldn't be interested in the exchange. Bots is another matter, but you could say that the current system already encourages bots - if you have bots that farm gold, you already benefit (whether you use that gold to play the economy, or sell it illegally, or trade it for Crowns with the current system).

ArchMikem wrote: »

Holycannoli wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

The point to Crowns is to provide ZOS additional funding beyond the initial sale of a game copy. Yknow how quick they'd hemorrhage cash if players could just grind crowns?

Every single crown is paid for, either directly or through monthly stipend. Nobody would be buying crowns directly with gold, they'd be buying crowns that were bought with RL money.

The one BIG problem with allowing it is giving incentive to gold sellers and botters.

A player supplied Crown market?

It's already a player supplied Crown market, except one without any safe trade options and oversight.
A gold-Crown currency exchange ran by ZOS would improve transactions and lead to more profit for the company.

Simply create a 'Currency Exchange' NPC with an interface, that logs players wanting to sell Crowns, and logs players wanting to buy Crowns. Depending on the ratio of buyers/sellers on the market, the system would adjust the gold price per Crowns based on current supply and demand. The system would take gold and dispense Crowns (and vice versa take Crowns and dispense gold) independently, so that players are only ever deal with the central exchange interface, instead of having to exchange things with another player and being at each others' mercy.

GW2 and WoW work like this (more or less) and it works fine. The issue is that I can't see Zenimax pulling this off when they can't even keep their servers from crashing and they can't even handle trader bids without screwing up something

ThePlayer

They probably think that with a system of exchange of gold and crowns they will be going to lose money from the players ... poor ZOS team, from which miserable person they are guided ..

Runs

ThePlayer wrote: »

They probably think that with a system of exchange of gold and crowns they will be going to lose money from the players ... poor ZOS team, from which miserable person they are guided ..

Can you clarify if you are asking for a safe version of buying crowns or crown items from other players made by ZOS, or if you are asking for ZOS to straight up trade crowns for gold themselves?

If it involves other players buying crowns and trading for a ZOS set amount of gold in a safe way(where you can't get scammed) that for sure would make ZOS money as one player is buying the crowns for cash.

But if it's just ZOS giving you crowns for gold there is no question that they will lose money as less people would be paying cash for crowns. From your OP and your other posts it seems like this is the method you are asking for.

Tsar_Gekkou

I'd love this. I could sell vMoL and vHoF skin runs and then buy skyshards instead of having to wait for ESO+ crowns, but Zos likes the moola too much to do that.

ThePlayer

As you wrote and what i ask:
it involves other players buying crowns ITEMS and trading them in Exchange ZOS system for set amount of gold ( already established by the system) in a safe way (where you can't get scammed).

luen79rwb17_ESO

Current system is fine and actually quite healthy just get in contact with official crown trade communities. The only thing that sux as of now are the recently added skyshards and skill lines crowns

Runs

ThePlayer wrote: »

As you wrote and what i ask:
it involves other players buying crowns ITEMS and trading them in Exchange ZOS system for set amount of gold ( already established by the system) in a safe way (where you can't get scammed).

Ah then yeah it makes sense for them to add, honestly surprised it hasn't already been introduced. I was gone for about 7 months and figured it would be here when I came back since gift trading had already been a thing when I left.

ThePlayer

The official trade communities, as you call it, are made up of players like you, who decide at what price to sell the crowns, now at 375 gold per crown, and in many cases they force you (for your safety) to have everything handled by a broker = +gold go out, so if it's fine for you ok but i don't want be bound to others.

PizzaCat82

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Current system is fine and actually quite healthy just get in contact with official crown trade communities. The only thing that sux as of now are the recently added skyshards and skill lines crowns

These communities are nice but ZOS can do them for free without taking a percentage of gold. I think that would be much nicer than some person I don't know taking 100k, as insurance in case the guy I'm using decides to scam me.

JKorr

ThePlayer wrote: »

JamieAubrey-> this person you talking about is called broker and do not it for free, want the 5% or more..

Depends. One of my gms provides an escrow service; no charge involved.

Gariele

JKorr wrote: »

ThePlayer wrote: »

JamieAubrey-> this person you talking about is called broker and do not it for free, want the 5% or more..

Depends. One of my gms provides and escrow service; no charge involved.

This is what I do for my Guilds. I’m happy to be middleman and provide security at no cost

luen79rwb17_ESO

ThePlayer wrote: »

The official trade communities, as you call it, are made up of players like you, who decide at what price to sell the crowns, now at 375 gold per crown, and in many cases they force you (for your safety) to have everything handled by a broker = +gold go out, so if it's fine for you ok but i don't want be bound to others.

But you want to be bound to ZOS who doesn't want gold for crowns they want $.

So people with $ go get Crowns from ZOS and they sell Crowns to you because they need the gold (not ZOS).

I utterly don't understand if you want ZOS to set the gold:crown ratio (which will never happen) or if you want a system where you buy your Crowns privately.

If the later is the case then the only thing that would work is a token system where crown holders would exchange their crowns for "crown tokens" (something similar to runeboxes or containers in general) which could be traded via guild stores.

With this system the prices of course would be set by players (demand/supply balance) as it should be. But in the end this system requires aditional coding, this probably is not a priority to ZOS and in the end it is not something that works on their favor since they evidently are making the Crown/Gold trade as difficult as possible so many players go for the :advertised" way of getting Crowns (which is $).

TL;DR: sorry but I don't see that happening soon.

Mettaricana

ThePlayer wrote: »

Why doesn't ZOS create a system to allow players to change gold into crown?
In this way players cannot be scammed by other players or subjected to rules managed by other players for not knowing what reason, like 1 crown 500 gold if you want to be safe or similar.
The price of the crown grows, why do i have to be tied to other players? why do i need to enrich other players with the so-called brokers? Please team ZOS answer me, I'm curious.
I have been ESO + for a long time but now i have decided not to be a sub because i am tired of these continuous mistakes of ZOS in managing almost everything, i will buy the dlc with the price set by others but at least i will not spend real money for the game.

They should take a page from neverwinter their zen for astral diamond exchange lets you list x amount of zen (their crowns) and how much you want per zen players can then use their astral diamonds a currency for almost 90% of the game to buy zen using the astral diamonds And vice versa.

Just add a tab to crown store list your crowns those who got more gold than sense can buy them and those who have more crown than gold can make their own profit. No one gets scammed you get exactly what you list no dcs not fake promises for trust sent gold etc. And the logic of supply and demand will take over the crown exchange has a ton of crown listings maybe it'll be 90g per crown but say new house comes out or limited time sale comes crowns may rise to 150-200g.either way crown get consumed by the crown store more crowns will be bought games pay to win argument becomes less logical and pointless. as you'd beable to grind gold buy crowns from someone willing to pay in a safe legit way .