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DO Sorcs even HAVE a class rep?

marius_buys
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I cannot for the life of me understand the nerfs to magsorc other than a move to move major sorcery, the magsorcs's main class buff, to the mages guild skill tree so players would want to buy it?

I mean who is our class rep and did he/she just let this uber nerf. slide?
Did he/she not raise an objection even once???
Edited by marius_buys on August 14, 2019 1:31AM
  • SirAndy
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    That would require the Class reps to actually have any sort of influence on the dev team, which clearly they don't.
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  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    It wouldn't matter even if they did. :*

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  • Kel
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    I think you're under the misguided perception that class reps have any power to affect change whatsoever.

    They do not.
  • Vlad9425
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    Wouldn't even matter if they did. Biggest example is the most recent patch they released which introduced so many changes most of the community are against. They don't listen to these reps and they certainly don't listen to the community.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    current class reps
    Alcast
    Checkmath
    FearTurbo
    GandTheImpaler
    Hexys
    JoyDivision
    KenaPK
    Liofa
    Masel92
    Quantum_V
    Stileanima
    Edited by Alienoutlaw on August 13, 2019 12:00AM
  • ccmedaddy
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    This thread confirms my theory that the class reps are basically meat shields for ZOS's bad balancing decisions.
  • Nefas
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    All the money spent on Mages Guild skill-lines comes to me why would I raise an objection? :wink: /s

    Here is the updated list of class reps found under the Combat sub forum @Alienoutlaw

    Alcast
    Masel
    GandTheImpaler
    Quantum
    FearTurbo
    RebornZombie
    Cicisich
    Glory
    Cab_Life
    Nefas
    Edited by Nefas on August 14, 2019 3:33PM
  • Morgul667
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    Nefas wrote: »
    All the money spent on Mages Guild skill-lines comes to me why would I raise an objection? :wink: /s

    Here is the updated list of class reps found under the Combat sub forum @Alienoutlaw

    Alcast
    Masel
    GandTheImpaler
    Quantum
    FearTurbo
    RebornZombie
    Glorious
    Cab_Life
    Glorious

    Some great people are not class rep anymore

    Kinda says a lot of the program
  • Lisutaris
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  • Emma_Overload
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    I do think it's a bit odd that nobody ever mentions which rep is matched with which class. This seems like it would be critical information, right?
    #CAREBEARMASTERRACE
  • Sephyr
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    Morgul667 wrote: »
    Nefas wrote: »
    All the money spent on Mages Guild skill-lines comes to me why would I raise an objection? :wink: /s

    Here is the updated list of class reps found under the Combat sub forum @Alienoutlaw

    Alcast
    Masel
    GandTheImpaler
    Quantum
    FearTurbo
    RebornZombie
    Glorious
    Cab_Life
    Glorious

    Some great people are not class rep anymore

    Kinda says a lot of the program

    Some are no longer participating on the forum anymore either.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    just checked one such rep, and unless its a "guide" or self promotion they posted 11 threads since january this year
  • Berenhir
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    I do think it's a bit odd that nobody ever mentions which rep is matched with which class. This seems like it would be critical information, right?

    The term class rep is misleading. There are no reps associated to a certain class. Some reps main certain classes but they "represent" all classes. That was made pretty clear when the program was announced.
    Edited by Berenhir on August 13, 2019 9:16AM
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  • ATomiX69
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    current class reps
    Alcast
    Checkmath
    FearTurbo
    GandTheImpaler
    Hexys
    JoyDivision
    KenaPK
    Liofa
    Masel92
    Quantum_V
    Stileanima

    Thats a really old list, hexys definitly isnt class rep anymore, checkmath also definitly isnt a class rep anymore after leaking patch notes.
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  • Alienoutlaw
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    ATomiX69 wrote: »
    current class reps
    Alcast
    Checkmath
    FearTurbo
    GandTheImpaler
    Hexys
    JoyDivision
    KenaPK
    Liofa
    Masel92
    Quantum_V
    Stileanima

    Thats a really old list, hexys definitly isnt class rep anymore, checkmath also definitly isnt a class rep anymore after leaking patch notes.

    someone posted an updated list, but thanks for the heads up
  • marius_buys
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    Nefas wrote: »
    All the money spent on Mages Guild skill-lines comes to me why would I raise an objection? :wink: /s

    Here is the updated list of class reps found under the Combat sub forum @Alienoutlaw

    Alcast
    Masel
    GandTheImpaler
    Quantum
    FearTurbo
    RebornZombie
    Glorious
    Cab_Life
    Glorious

    ok so which one of you ladies actually play mag sorc as a main?
    and what the actual f did you do about this beforehand?
  • Vahrokh
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    We used to have a sorc class rep that... played a Templar.

    Just so you know how much knowledge and care was poured at us.

    In fact, out of our dozens pages long Class Mechanics official Sorc Thread, not a SINGLE suggestion or bug fix has EVER been implemented. Ever.
  • marius_buys
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    Vahrokh wrote: »
    We used to have a sorc class rep that... played a Templar.

    Just so you know how much knowledge and care was poured at us.

    In fact, out of our dozens pages long Class Mechanics official Sorc Thread, not a SINGLE suggestion or bug fix has EVER been implemented. Ever.

    Well that is bloody obvious when the magsorc class now has to deal with multiple stamsorc passives omg what the actual F!
  • marius_buys
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    So magsorcs are NOT represented on the class rep programme... beautifull.
  • aquiella
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    I didn't think any of the classes had representatives??????
  • marius_buys
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    CLASS REP WHERE THE ACTUAL F ARE YOU???

    WE CHECKED BACK TO NOV 2018 AND COULDN'T FIND A SINGLE POST?
    THAT'S FOUR UPDATES AND FOUR NERFS UNCHALLENGED.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/416457/class-rep-sorcerer-feedback-thread/p37
  • Alienoutlaw
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    CLASS REP WHERE THE ACTUAL F ARE YOU???

    WE CHECKED BACK TO NOV 2018 AND COULDN'T FIND A SINGLE POST?
    THAT'S FOUR UPDATES AND FOUR NERFS UNCHALLENGED.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/416457/class-rep-sorcerer-feedback-thread/p37

    page 28 for Nov 2018
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  • Zevrro
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    Nefas wrote: »
    All the money spent on Mages Guild skill-lines comes to me why would I raise an objection? :wink: /s

    Here is the updated list of class reps found under the Combat sub forum @Alienoutlaw

    Alcast
    Masel
    GandTheImpaler
    Quantum
    FearTurbo
    RebornZombie
    Glorious
    Cab_Life
    Glorious

    ok so which one of you ladies actually play mag sorc as a main?
    and what the actual f did you do about this beforehand?

    Having a class rep that mains sorc isn't going to prevent them being nerfed. Class reps are not in charge of balance changes they just give feedback. They can't stop ZOS doing anything.
    Edited by Zevrro on August 13, 2019 11:26AM
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  • Darkenarlol
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    what nerfs?

    my shields are bigger and dps is higher

    btw entropy is best mag ST dot so you gonna slot it anyway

    critical surge heals for bigger numbers so it is a buff again

    Edited by Darkenarlol on August 13, 2019 11:29AM
  • KappaKid83
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    I cannot for the life of me understand the nerfs to magsorc other than a move to put major sorcery in the. mage guild skill tree so players would want to buy it?

    I mean who is our class rep and did he/she just let this uber nerf. slide????
    Did he not once raise an objection???

    It is Alcast and I believe he was not happy with a lot of the changes because most of his build is now skills outside of the sorc tree and he wasn't happy about that.(Don't quote me but if I remember one of his videos a few weeks back he seemed to be pretty negative on a lot of the changes.)
  • Donny_Vito
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    It seems like you really want a name so you can unleash more of that fury, not as a means to address future communication.
  • SirMewser
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    what nerfs?

    my shields are bigger and dps is higher

    btw entropy is best mag ST dot so you gonna slot it anyway

    critical surge heals for bigger numbers so it is a buff again

    For an Elder Scroll game, conjugation in this game looks like it was done designed by script kiddies who thought they were clever putting together half ass assets to cut pay.

    Active abilities don't even have animations, just particle effects, only passive attacks do they move limbs. With the exception of the Warden's bear but that animation is recycled from mobs and even a monster helmet.

    Tormentor does less single target damage than that of the Familiar's AOE DoT. The familiar also has a passive DoT, a stun, and no restrictions to when the active is usable. That itself shows the Tormentor's poor design.

    Asside from the ugly models.

    Then we have the surge nerf, a 3s CD for a 2550 (base) heal is only 850 HPS and ONLY if you have 100% critical chance. Otherwise you lose a third of your net healing per second and it's not improved by max magic or spell damage. Another idiotic design.

    If you turn on skills advisor, Eldericht Mender will tell you to slot Dark Deal instead of Dark Conversion. This makes me question if ZoS really plays their game or is even competent enough to fix anything.
    Edited by SirMewser on August 13, 2019 1:56PM
  • DocFrost72
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    Donny_Vito wrote: »
    It seems like you really want a name so you can unleash more of that fury, not as a means to address future communication.

    ^

    There is absolutely a class rep who loves sorc with all her heart. I've got no reason to dump you in her lap to yell about things beyond her control though.

    Instead, list constructive criticism about out what changes you didn't like. Maybe discuss the pain points if the class and where it is not fun to play in detail. She'll see that and can pass that along.
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