Templars PvP - Detailed Guide, Suggestions, Advice, etc. - Elsweyr

EtTuBrutus · July 2019

technohic wrote: »

Yeah, I have to see if I can get the rhythm down. Unaltered, its backbar 1 2 3, swap to front bar 1 2 3 4 555 but of course in PvP there is going to be a lot more swap back to backbar for ER and HTD, and I have to get to front bar for my speed and root/snare immunity, which makes me kind of want to move it back to the defensive/buff bar. I kind of watch my timers for my buffs and usually start with the longest 1 on the backbar but in this case, I want my focus as priority as I need the sustain and armor up if nothing else when going to heal.

Well. Degeneration is going to be better next patch. But using spell power pots has opened up a ton of options for me. I can send u a video showing the flexibility if u want. I am not sure about next patch until i test, but it seems im gonna go dot/hot heavy.

No_Division · July 2019

ok swapping to impreg. Lets me run eye ghoul due to the health/stam 2/3pcs which gives me more regen than having trans and access to 80% crit resist.

Neoauspex · July 2019

No_Division wrote: »

ok swapping to impreg. Lets me run eye ghoul due to the health/stam 2/3pcs which gives me more regen than having trans and access to 80% crit resist.

But you can't back bar it...

No_Division · July 2019

Neoauspex wrote: »

No_Division wrote: »

ok swapping to impreg. Lets me run eye ghoul due to the health/stam 2/3pcs which gives me more regen than having trans and access to 80% crit resist.

But you can't back bar it...

that's ok. I gave up 5% speed off 1 jewel so I could maintain a 7000+ ESP number. My jabs tooltip is 4500 with lighting, 4300 wiht fire and it was 4100 with trans backbar willpower front setup. And my regen was 1100 m with trans 1500 with impreg but my health is 24k instead of 30k.

technohic · July 2019

So with the bloody mara nerf, thinking I might look to swap shacklebreaker out for a more magicka/spell damage set and tri glyph, go damage jewelry glyphs, then run max mag with recovery food. Guess it depends on how it hits my pools.

Kartalin · July 2019

I currently use Spring loaded infusion as a Breton magplar. Between that, tri stat glyphs, and undaunted passives it gives me a decent amount of stamina. I don’t think it’s changing next update.

No_Division · July 2019

Kartalin wrote: »

I currently use Spring loaded infusion as a Breton magplar. Between that, tri stat glyphs, and undaunted passives it gives me a decent amount of stamina. I don’t think it’s changing next update.

It's definitely not.

I am imperial so basically all the popular food/drink options puts me at 30-40k health without sneezing lol.
Taking me basically since the race changes to find a sweet spot. I can fit ghoul eye is what its coming down to.

Kartalin · July 2019

Yeah when you already get health and stamina from your race ghastly eye bowl is a great choice.

EtTuBrutus · July 2019

I recommend switching up what you eat and drink. I had one of Bob's burgers of the day yesterday. Mmm.

Syiccal · July 2019

Who is stacking spell damage and who is stacking mag

No_Division · July 2019

Syiccal wrote: »

Who is stacking spell damage and who is stacking mag

both? because stacking in one heavily is subject to diminishing returns on tooltip dmg lol.
No reason a magplar shouldnt have 36-40k mag but also 4k SD.

WreckfulAbandon · July 2019

Magplar doesn't have the luxury of stacking huge amounts of damage if they expect to stay alive outnumbered in openworld. You can still have good damage with some investment in health, stam, speed, and stam recovery. 19k stam with ~1k stam recovery will net you some good survivability with S&B. Not the only way to stay alive but it's useful for a lot of reasons.

I would never use ghastly eye bowl ever.

Syiccal · July 2019

Yea I'm currently sitting at 47k mag, 27k health (pvp) and 18k stam, spell dmg buffed it 2750,.
I tested it on a dummy and makes very little difference which way round I stack mag or spell dmg, it's much the same tool tip values all said and done so I'd rather play with more resources.
I also have 35k spell resist and 31 k physical when bloodspawn procs (while in rune) or a little less when running around

Rhaegar75 · July 2019

Syiccal wrote: »

Yea I'm currently sitting at 47k mag, 27k health (pvp) and 18k stam, spell dmg buffed it 2750,.
I tested it on a dummy and makes very little difference which way round I stack mag or spell dmg, it's much the same tool tip values all said and done so I'd rather play with more resources.
I also have 35k spell resist and 31 k physical when bloodspawn procs (while in rune) or a little less when running around

I'm curious to what gear you are using.

Syiccal · July 2019

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

Syiccal wrote: »

Yea I'm currently sitting at 47k mag, 27k health (pvp) and 18k stam, spell dmg buffed it 2750,.
I tested it on a dummy and makes very little difference which way round I stack mag or spell dmg, it's much the same tool tip values all said and done so I'd rather play with more resources.
I also have 35k spell resist and 31 k physical when bloodspawn procs (while in rune) or a little less when running around

I'm curious to what gear you are using.

Breton, 5 BTB, 5 crafty Afique, 2 bloodspawn, spring loaded infusion, tri stat glyphs on big peices and jewellery, mage mundus, 5/1/1 max undaunted

No_Division · July 2019

WreckfulAbandon wrote: »

Magplar doesn't have the luxury of stacking huge amounts of damage if they expect to stay alive outnumbered in openworld. You can still have good damage with some investment in health, stam, speed, and stam recovery. 19k stam with ~1k stam recovery will net you some good survivability with S&B. Not the only way to stay alive but it's useful for a lot of reasons.

I would never use ghastly eye bowl ever.

no one except imperial can use ghastly.

Kartalin · July 2019

In non cp where you lose the magicka from your cp but not spell damage, you do a little better stacking damage. Especially with magplars having minor sorcery to stack with our choice of major sorcery. But I'm of the same camp as @Syiccal, rather have some more magicka to play with. That said, you can make a pretty good argument for going infused on jewelry in non cp over arcane or tri stat.

No_Division · July 2019

Kartalin wrote: »

In non cp where you lose the magicka from your cp but not spell damage, you do a little better stacking damage. Especially with magplars having minor sorcery to stack with our choice of major sorcery. But I'm of the same camp as @Syiccal, rather have some more magicka to play with. That said, you can make a pretty good argument for going infused on jewelry in non cp over arcane or tri stat.

agreed.

technohic · July 2019

I find I have a difficult time stacking spell damage compared to weapon damage on my stam toons. I actually tend to favor more moderate levels with Spriggans and Spinners for their respective types these days.

No_Division · July 2019

technohic wrote: »

I find I have a difficult time stacking spell damage compared to weapon damage on my stam toons. I actually tend to favor more moderate levels with Spriggans and Spinners for their respective types these days.

yea its tough. Can't do it too high without the need for swords. 4-4500 is about as high as you can go.

Akinos · July 2019

No_Division wrote: »

WreckfulAbandon wrote: »

Magplar doesn't have the luxury of stacking huge amounts of damage if they expect to stay alive outnumbered in openworld. You can still have good damage with some investment in health, stam, speed, and stam recovery. 19k stam with ~1k stam recovery will net you some good survivability with S&B. Not the only way to stay alive but it's useful for a lot of reasons.

I would never use ghastly eye bowl ever.

no one except imperial can use ghastly.

thats not true at all, i use ghastly on dark elf. Although that does depend on my gear, but normally i use ghastly :P

No_Division · July 2019

Akinos wrote: »

No_Division wrote: »

WreckfulAbandon wrote: »

Magplar doesn't have the luxury of stacking huge amounts of damage if they expect to stay alive outnumbered in openworld. You can still have good damage with some investment in health, stam, speed, and stam recovery. 19k stam with ~1k stam recovery will net you some good survivability with S&B. Not the only way to stay alive but it's useful for a lot of reasons.

I would never use ghastly eye bowl ever.

no one except imperial can use ghastly.

thats not true at all, i use ghastly on dark elf.

shhhh! let us imperials have something lol

technohic · July 2019

Every time I go to run magplar for a bit; I see something that gives me an idea for stamplar. lol Trying to resist as my stamdk plays really well, but theres something about stamplar I just cant leave well enough alone.

Jabbs_Giggity · July 2019

technohic wrote: »

Every time I go to run magplar for a bit; I see something that gives me an idea for stamplar. lol Trying to resist as my stamdk plays really well, but theres something about stamplar I just cant leave well enough alone.

Stam DKs are way too OP right now. But yes, Stamplar just has a more fluent playstyle up in your face and is more fun to play.

Syiccal · July 2019

Jabbs_Giggity wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Every time I go to run magplar for a bit; I see something that gives me an idea for stamplar. lol Trying to resist as my stamdk plays really well, but theres something about stamplar I just cant leave well enough alone.

Stam DKs are way too OP right now. But yes, Stamplar just has a more fluent playstyle up in your face and is more fun to play.

Fighting stam dks and templars that use shuffle or have a kind of major evasion along side strong vigor , I may as well not bother my sweeps just bounce right off doing no dmg at all

Syiccal · July 2019

Based on how the pts is at the min, how are you rating magplar v stamplar next patch from a pvp perspective

RebornRequiem · July 2019

Syiccal wrote: »

Based on how the pts is at the min, how are you rating magplar v stamplar next patch from a pvp perspective

If the stamplar runs any source of major evasion, he probably will have the upper hand.

The_Lex · July 2019

How does Innate Axiom perform on a magplar, gernally? Will it buff HtD? I was thinking of running it alongside a defensive set like FB or Pariah in no-CP.

EtTuBrutus · July 2019

RebornRequiem wrote: »

Syiccal wrote: »

Based on how the pts is at the min, how are you rating magplar v stamplar next patch from a pvp perspective

If the stamplar runs any source of major evasion, he probably will have the upper hand.

Id say stamplar got indirect buff that was nerfed. Everyone and they're gram-gram is gonna run soul trap and entropy, dots are gonna be every where. So extended is great for them. Then they increased the cost.... again. Id still give a well built magplar the edge bc of that. A stamplar will have 3 casts of extended ritual in 20 seconds if that's thier only mag dump. That's exploitable in longer fights.

Mrsinister2 · July 2019

The_Lex wrote: »

How does Innate Axiom perform on a magplar, gernally? Will it buff HtD? I was thinking of running it alongside a defensive set like FB or Pariah in no-CP.

Its buffs all your class damage and healing its really good on magplar since we use a ton of class skills.