Glurin wrote: »

This game does have an auction house. Several, actually. As many as there are guilds, and they are all cross faction. Pick one, hell, pick five, find a banker and sell anything you want.

I know, I know. You wanted it all consolidated into one single AH rife with gold farmers and opportunists jacking up the prices on everything to unbelievable heights, anonymous bidding wars, and so many people selling the exact same thing undercutting each other by one gold that nothing you put up ever sells unless a gold farmer buys them all and re-lists them. Been there, done that. Time to try something new.

No, what I want is to be able to put my item on a trading post that's looked by everyone on the server so that it sells within a few hours, not within a few weeks.

Guilds are maximum 500 members, tons of low levels, who are not potential buyer/sellers


there's maybe 15% people who are around my level, take 50% off that who doesn't log on/doesn't check guild trading post, another 40% who has no use for the item, oh and guess what, the last 10%, doesn't need it


Perfect example is that I posted around 10 blues level 45 ish for cheap prices whereas none of them sold, while they would have sold on a global auction house, I don't feel like spamming zone chat all day, I've got better things to do, vendoring blues just sounds sad. We need an auction house.



Oh and these numbers which are obviously not correct on the percent but pretty accurate? Based on my top guild of 4 guilds. Which is a guild for the sole purpose of selling and buying.

Tiyamel wrote: »

no, just no, having an AH is just asking for RMT to destroy the economy, not like they aren't trying anyway, if you can't sell items then you are in wrong trading guild, (you can be in 5 btw), either that or break them down for parts, personally i don't sell green/blue or above, i npc white trash, and sell the materials through my guilds

You can be in 5, but you can only post your item in ONE

Libertine wrote: »

i love how everyone says "get in a trading guild" as a sort of counter argument...

have any of you actually considered the long term implications ? 500 people in a TG .. who takes care of inactive players ? discontinued accounts and whatnot in 3 months time ? how is a new player that starts in half a year supposed to find a decent trading guild for low level stuff when all the folk that are now in those big guilds will be lvlcapped for a long time and only high end stuff is available.

i hate the guild AH with a passion ... the hassle of switching through 5 different auction houses to maybe find the item im looking for...the lack of filters that make sense(like filtering to crafting materials for a certain profession)...the fact you can only post your item in one out of the five...the list goes on.

i do agree that global AH does have its drawbacks but it sure as hell is better than what is available right now.

I could not have said it better myself, I agree with every single word you said and a LOT of people share the same opinion.

I tried the trade guild approach. I just don't like it as much. It's hard to price items because searching for comparative items is a chore, even with add ones. I have to spend a lot of time switching between guild stores to get anything done.

The 'public trade shops' are nonexistent in cyrodil, so you're limited to putting up an item that only 500 people max will see (this number is really a lot less, especially if several people in your guild just stop playing). Low level items will eventually be useless, as there will never be new players flowing in unless the guild has a proactive stance towards inactive players.

I understand the faults with a public auction house, but the lack of functional trading options is making crafting just a lot less fun than it should be. If they're deadest against an auction house, some sort of system that allows for public trading in PVE needs to be implemented.

The game has not one but hundreds of Auction House, I know I use 2 myself. join a guild and stop whining about something that is in game and works fine though you haven't been arsed to try

mutharex wrote: »

The game has not one but hundreds of Auction House,

yeah, thats exactly the point...

Tiyamel wrote: »

Coggage wrote: »

I reckon this must be the 1,000th thread about this. Don't people actually look at the current threads or use the Search function any more?

nope, it would appear not, but i'll still take time out to answer if its interesting enough or someone needs genuine help

You're just mad cause your comment got ignored, you told us you didn't like the idea, we've noted this, but stop spamming the thread.

mutharex wrote: »

The game has not one but hundreds of Auction House, I know I use 2 myself. join a guild and stop whining about something that is in game and works fine though you haven't been arsed to try

So your suggestion is to just join random guilds, check their "auction houses" and if I don't find the item I'm looking for just leave? Because that's not the point of a guild.



The whole system of buying/selling items at the moment is complete *** at best.

Zilas wrote: »

Tiyamel wrote: »

Coggage wrote: »

I reckon this must be the 1,000th thread about this. Don't people actually look at the current threads or use the Search function any more?

nope, it would appear not, but i'll still take time out to answer if its interesting enough or someone needs genuine help

You're just mad cause your comment got ignored, you told us you didn't like the idea, we've noted this, but stop spamming the thread.

mutharex wrote: »

The game has not one but hundreds of Auction House, I know I use 2 myself. join a guild and stop whining about something that is in game and works fine though you haven't been arsed to try

So your suggestion is to just join random guilds, check their "auction houses" and if I don't find the item I'm looking for just leave? Because that's not the point of a guild.



The whole system of buying/selling items at the moment is complete *** at best.

Look I understand you don't want even to try, but spewing ignorant crap isn't changing reality: you use trading guilds to...trade? Hope sooner or later that sinks in

Zilas wrote: »

mutharex wrote: »

Zilas wrote: »

Tiyamel wrote: »

Coggage wrote: »

I reckon this must be the 1,000th thread about this. Don't people actually look at the current threads or use the Search function any more?

nope, it would appear not, but i'll still take time out to answer if its interesting enough or someone needs genuine help

You're just mad cause your comment got ignored, you told us you didn't like the idea, we've noted this, but stop spamming the thread.

mutharex wrote: »

The game has not one but hundreds of Auction House, I know I use 2 myself. join a guild and stop whining about something that is in game and works fine though you haven't been arsed to try

So your suggestion is to just join random guilds, check their "auction houses" and if I don't find the item I'm looking for just leave? Because that's not the point of a guild.



The whole system of buying/selling items at the moment is complete *** at best.

Look I understand you don't want even to try, but spewing ignorant crap isn't changing reality: you use trading guilds to...trade? Hope sooner or later that sinks in

I don't want to try? I HAVE TRIED, DIDNT WORK OUT

I put that in caps, to make sure you would notice.

Give it a month, forums will be full of people DEMANDING an auction house, or wait, is it already?

Hmmm worked out for me so it's fine. You might want to learn how to use them? And don't worry, people will adapt or die (possibly the second but I can only dream)

mutharex wrote: »

Zilas wrote: »

mutharex wrote: »

Zilas wrote: »

mutharex wrote: »

Zilas wrote: »

Tiyamel wrote: »

Coggage wrote: »

I reckon this must be the 1,000th thread about this. Don't people actually look at the current threads or use the Search function any more?

nope, it would appear not, but i'll still take time out to answer if its interesting enough or someone needs genuine help

You're just mad cause your comment got ignored, you told us you didn't like the idea, we've noted this, but stop spamming the thread.

mutharex wrote: »

The game has not one but hundreds of Auction House, I know I use 2 myself. join a guild and stop whining about something that is in game and works fine though you haven't been arsed to try

So your suggestion is to just join random guilds, check their "auction houses" and if I don't find the item I'm looking for just leave? Because that's not the point of a guild.



The whole system of buying/selling items at the moment is complete *** at best.

Look I understand you don't want even to try, but spewing ignorant crap isn't changing reality: you use trading guilds to...trade? Hope sooner or later that sinks in

I don't want to try? I HAVE TRIED, DIDNT WORK OUT

I put that in caps, to make sure you would notice.

Give it a month, forums will be full of people DEMANDING an auction house, or wait, is it already?

Hmmm worked out for me so it's fine. You might want to learn how to use them? And don't worry, people will adapt or die (possibly the second but I can only dream)

Worked out for you, right, you're just an arrogant prick roaming around the forums looking for a discussion. Keep on dreaming.

It works.For.Me. And hundreds of thousands who aren't either lazy or dumb. Chances you'll see a AH in this game?Zero. Dream on and continue trolling this forum and insulting people, you have been reported

I love how people say something could never happen :P.

If enough people complain this CAN change , it is that simple , and people will for sure do so.

This whole guild system is quite stupid , all in all , calling what i have guilds is almost offensive , i would call them , my personal group of people to profit over. The part i love the most , is when someone actually posts something at half a price for guildies ... 25% profit right there :P.

lol @Zilas how did you assume i was mad at my comment being ignored? it wasn't ignored obviously. And im not the only player who actually likes the way it is, it doesn't make your opinion or mine any less valid, i gave my opinion on the subject you posted and then proceeded to answer another question in the thread, so who's mad at who?

mutharex wrote: »

It is the system the devs chose for their game with a lot of reasons. If you don't like it, it doesn't make it less valid. And no, it won't change because it's the base of all the PVP system. Don't try to change the game, try to adapt

Agree totally.

Tandor wrote: »

mutharex wrote: »

it's the base of all the PVP system. Don't try to change the game, try to adapt

And for those who have no interest in PvP?

I think you are a bit confused: you can be part of a trading guild (hell, up to 5) even if you never enter Cyrodiil. 99% of "problems" players seem to have on this forum are due to not knowing, if you'd like I can post a few links where you can get information or if you prefer I can give you a summary

Yabba dabba dooh!

I agree, the current guild auction system is close to useless.

I don't really mind the 'no global AH' system (although I'd prefer it), but at least some local (*) AH or rentable trading booths(**) are a must in my opinion.

(*) Alliance or city wide
(**) players rent a booth to sell their stuff. Somewhere (e.g. at the entrance of the trading area) is a board or npc where people can browse all the wares, and once they found what they want they are told which booth to go to. Of course this would lead to a huge number of booths, but the 'we need the immersion to go to a physical vendor'-crowd would get their way (I fail to see the immersion with the current guild store system though - I click on an item and sell/buy it as I would in a global AH)