Like i said from the get-go.. we wanted one 7-day locked campaign for the minority that want it.
Strangely, and in direct contradiction of what the community wanted and pled for for months, the dev's made the 7-day campaign the only FFA campaign which is DEAD AS CAN BE. WHY oh WHY???
Unlock the 30-days which should never have been locked.
So many players spoke out on both sides. The pro-faction lock only wanted one short locked campaign but the devs did the opposite. The existing 30-day players didn't want their campaigns locked but were open to a new experimental campaign being locked. They did the opposite..? WHAT GIVES????
Listen to the PvP community when making PvP changes!!!!!!
Unlock the 30-days so players can somewhat balance things as time goes on!!
Introduce or convert ONE 7-day campaign to faction lock and see how it goes... (that's all we really need)
LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND STOP DOING SENSELESS CHANGES NO ONE WANTED WITHOUT EXPLANATION!!!!
GET IT TOGETHER DEV'S!!!!!!!! @ZOS_BrianWheeler
Like i said from the get-go.. we wanted one 7-day locked campaign for the minority that want it.
Strangely, and in direct contradiction of what the community wanted and pled for for months, the dev's made the 7-day campaign the only FFA campaign which is DEAD AS CAN BE. WHY oh WHY???
Unlock the 30-days which should never have been locked.
So many players spoke out on both sides. The pro-faction lock only wanted one short locked campaign but the devs did the opposite. The existing 30-day players didn't want their campaigns locked but were open to a new experimental campaign being locked. They did the opposite..? WHAT GIVES????
Listen to the PvP community when making PvP changes!!!!!!
Unlock the 30-days so players can somewhat balance things as time goes on!!
Introduce or convert ONE 7-day campaign to faction lock and see how it goes... (that's all we really need)
LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND STOP DOING SENSELESS CHANGES NO ONE WANTED WITHOUT EXPLANATION!!!!
GET IT TOGETHER DEV'S!!!!!!!! @ZOS_BrianWheeler
@Enkil i suggest you do not lie on a open forum, neither you or i know the numbers in favour or against faction lock... There is a few voicy people on both sides, the only proof you have is a forum thread, with very few numbers voting, that is so few that they is to few to even create a basis for statistics...
I will say though, that based on the pvp thats been going the last weeks, its been fairly even...everyone can decide at thestart of a match who and where they want to play, like in real life talk to your friends ?
Like i said from the get-go.. we wanted one 7-day locked campaign for the minority that want it.
Strangely, and in direct contradiction of what the community wanted and pled for for months, the dev's made the 7-day campaign the only FFA campaign which is DEAD AS CAN BE. WHY oh WHY???
Unlock the 30-days which should never have been locked.
So many players spoke out on both sides. The pro-faction lock only wanted one short locked campaign but the devs did the opposite. The existing 30-day players didn't want their campaigns locked but were open to a new experimental campaign being locked. They did the opposite..? WHAT GIVES????
Listen to the PvP community when making PvP changes!!!!!!
Unlock the 30-days so players can somewhat balance things as time goes on!!
Introduce or convert ONE 7-day campaign to faction lock and see how it goes... (that's all we really need)
LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND STOP DOING SENSELESS CHANGES NO ONE WANTED WITHOUT EXPLANATION!!!!
GET IT TOGETHER DEV'S!!!!!!!! @ZOS_BrianWheeler
@Enkil i suggest you do not lie on a open forum, neither you or i know the numbers in favour or against faction lock... There is a few voicy people on both sides, the only proof you have is a forum thread, with very few numbers voting, that is so few that they is to few to even create a basis for statistics...
I will say though, that based on the pvp thats been going the last weeks, its been fairly even...everyone can decide at thestart of a match who and where they want to play, like in real life talk to your friends ?
Sorry, I truly mean no offense, but you've lost totally me.... If you want to rebut my post, please focus on a point-for-point counter-argument...
The crux of my point is that the main push for locked campaign was for a new short locked campaign, and both sides would have been fine with the 30-days remaining unlocked, and a new locked short campaign introduced. A match is a tiny part of the big campaign wide 30-day campaign. My real life friends do not play this game so....
ZOS made their decision and we have to live with it.
Like i said from the get-go.. we wanted one 7-day locked campaign for the minority that want it.
Strangely, and in direct contradiction of what the community wanted and pled for for months, the dev's made the 7-day campaign the only FFA campaign which is DEAD AS CAN BE. WHY oh WHY???
Unlock the 30-days which should never have been locked.
So many players spoke out on both sides. The pro-faction lock only wanted one short locked campaign but the devs did the opposite. The existing 30-day players didn't want their campaigns locked but were open to a new experimental campaign being locked. They did the opposite..? WHAT GIVES????
Listen to the PvP community when making PvP changes!!!!!!
Unlock the 30-days so players can somewhat balance things as time goes on!!
Introduce or convert ONE 7-day campaign to faction lock and see how it goes... (that's all we really need)
LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND STOP DOING SENSELESS CHANGES NO ONE WANTED WITHOUT EXPLANATION!!!!
GET IT TOGETHER DEV'S!!!!!!!! @ZOS_BrianWheeler
@Enkil i suggest you do not lie on a open forum, neither you or i know the numbers in favour or against faction lock... There is a few voicy people on both sides, the only proof you have is a forum thread, with very few numbers voting, that is so few that they is to few to even create a basis for statistics...
I will say though, that based on the pvp thats been going the last weeks, its been fairly even...everyone can decide at thestart of a match who and where they want to play, like in real life talk to your friends ?
Sorry, I truly mean no offense, but you've totally lost me.... If you want to rebut my post, please focus on a point-for-point counter-argument...
The crux of my point is that the main push for locked campaign was for a new short locked campaign, and both sides would have been fine with the 30-days remaining unlocked, and a new locked short campaign introduced. A match is a tiny part of the big campaign wide 30-day campaign. My real life friends do not play this game so....
Like i said from the get-go.. we wanted one 7-day locked campaign for the minority that want it.
Strangely, and in direct contradiction of what the community wanted and pled for for months, the dev's made the 7-day campaign the only FFA campaign which is DEAD AS CAN BE. WHY oh WHY???
Unlock the 30-days which should never have been locked.
So many players spoke out on both sides. The pro-faction lock only wanted one short locked campaign but the devs did the opposite. The existing 30-day players didn't want their campaigns locked but were open to a new experimental campaign being locked. They did the opposite..? WHAT GIVES????
Listen to the PvP community when making PvP changes!!!!!!
Unlock the 30-days so players can somewhat balance things as time goes on!!
Introduce or convert ONE 7-day campaign to faction lock and see how it goes... (that's all we really need)
LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND STOP DOING SENSELESS CHANGES NO ONE WANTED WITHOUT EXPLANATION!!!!
GET IT TOGETHER DEV'S!!!!!!!! @ZOS_BrianWheeler
@Enkil i suggest you do not lie on a open forum, neither you or i know the numbers in favour or against faction lock... There is a few voicy people on both sides, the only proof you have is a forum thread, with very few numbers voting, that is so few that they is to few to even create a basis for statistics...
I will say though, that based on the pvp thats been going the last weeks, its been fairly even...everyone can decide at thestart of a match who and where they want to play, like in real life talk to your friends ?
Sorry, I truly mean no offense, but you've totally lost me.... If you want to rebut my post, please focus on a point-for-point counter-argument...
The crux of my point is that the main push for locked campaign was for a new short locked campaign, and both sides would have been fine with the 30-days remaining unlocked, and a new locked short campaign introduced. A match is a tiny part of the big campaign wide 30-day campaign. My real life friends do not play this game so....
nope it wasent, people been wanting return to faction locks, for a very very long time, how it should be implemented was a totally difrent beast... the facts and the statistics is something you have NO idea of knowing so again dont say you do, or provide solid proof for it...
dtsharples wrote: »The choice to lock the 30 day was the correct one.
For people who don't want, or don't care for faction loyalty / locks, the scoring or duration absolutely doesn't matter at all, so the 7 day campaign is where they should be playing.
dtsharples wrote: »The choice to lock the 30 day was the correct one.
For people who don't want, or don't care for faction loyalty / locks, the scoring or duration absolutely doesn't matter at all, so the 7 day campaign is where they should be playing.
How many times do you need to be told before it's acknowledged this suggestion is trolling?
7 day is dead. PvPers don't want to PvDoor.
dtsharples wrote: »How many times do you need to be told before it's acknowledged this suggestion is trolling?
7 day is dead. PvPers don't want to PvDoor.
Oh I don't disagree with you that the 7 day is very quiet, but you can read into that whatever you like.
My personal presumption is that nowhere near as many people as you think are bothered about being locked into a faction for a short duration.
Otherwise PVP would have died entirely upon the locks implementation (and it clearly hasn't), and the unlocked campaign would be buzzing with activity.
The fact that we had no idea how this would pan out in that 1st week of implementation is what is really telling to me.
If there really was a straight split between those who wanted a lock and those who didn't, the campaigns would have had a pretty equal distribution of people in that 1st week - and they obviously didn't which speaks volumes.
That 1st week was the chance for people to really show where their loyalties lay. But instead, even after endless discussions on these forums everyone still ended up in the locked campaigns.
And the ridiculous argument that players are so dumb they just click the 1st campaign in the list is absurd.
People are choosing to play in a faction locked campaign - as to their personal reasons why I can't help you with that one, but the simple fact is that they did in month 1, and continued to do so in month 2, a pattern that I'm sure will repeat for months to come.
dtsharples wrote: »How many times do you need to be told before it's acknowledged this suggestion is trolling?
7 day is dead. PvPers don't want to PvDoor.
Oh I don't disagree with you that the 7 day is very quiet, but you can read into that whatever you like.
My personal presumption is that nowhere near as many people as you think are bothered about being locked into a faction for a short duration.
Otherwise PVP would have died entirely upon the locks implementation (and it clearly hasn't), and the unlocked campaign would be buzzing with activity.
The fact that we had no idea how this would pan out in that 1st week of implementation is what is really telling to me.
If there really was a straight split between those who wanted a lock and those who didn't, the campaigns would have had a pretty equal distribution of people in that 1st week - and they obviously didn't which speaks volumes.
That 1st week was the chance for people to really show where their loyalties lay. But instead, even after endless discussions on these forums everyone still ended up in the locked campaigns.
And the ridiculous argument that players are so dumb they just click the 1st campaign in the list is absurd.
People are choosing to play in a faction locked campaign - as to their personal reasons why I can't help you with that one, but the simple fact is that they did in month 1, and continued to do so in month 2, a pattern that I'm sure will repeat for months to come.
@dtsharples people play the locked campaigns because there isn’t much action in IC or on the 7 day server. This is because for whatever reason which from the people I know there are various reasons for people NOT playing one of them is the faction locks. I have been stuck on a faction on a server for a month playing mostly solo and not playing with the guild I am in or my friends most of whom left for various reasons, including the faction lock. If I had to do it again this next campaign I would probably end up just quitting until I could change it or just not log in again period. I truly enjoy this game’s pvp so if I am feeling this way you know there has to be others as well some who probably just logged out not to return.
Note: I don’t play as much as I use to because it just isn’t as much fun solo every day as it use to be. I don’t go to pve or level or do other content because I am bored.
dtsharples wrote: »A little piece of advice, when faced with an apposing argument that doesn't fit your own personal agenda, don't just pass it off as ''Trolling''.
Feel free to reply in a cohesive and constructive manner though.
dtsharples wrote: »I have explained previously why the 7 day campaign is perfect for people who don't like the lock, simply put: It's the only one that is unlocked!!
dtsharples wrote: »People hopping from faction to faction care nothing for the scoring or duration, so a 7 day campaign should suffice.
dtsharples wrote: »I wholly agreed that the campaign is empty (and explained why I thought this was the case) but empty or not that is the campaign made for those who want to faction hop.
dtsharples wrote: »I didn't state anything as fact, unlike yourself. "people play the locked campaigns because there isn’t much action in IC or on the 7 day server." That's a big, sweeping claim to be making.
I for one do not play a locked campaign because of either of those reasons, and I presume neither does anyone in the 3 PVP guilds I play in which are all, obviously based primarily around grouped PVP.
dtsharples wrote: »A little piece of advice, when faced with an apposing argument that doesn't fit your own personal agenda, don't just pass it off as ''Trolling''.
Feel free to reply in a cohesive and constructive manner though.
dtsharples wrote: »A little piece of advice, when faced with an apposing argument that doesn't fit your own personal agenda, don't just pass it off as ''Trolling''.
Feel free to reply in a cohesive and constructive manner though.
Your opposing argument makes no sense. Please explain in a cohesive and constructive manner, your opinion as to why people who don’t specifically enjoy faction locks should play on a dead server?
dtsharples wrote: »So the new 30 day campaign starts in a couple of hours.
Will people be joining the unlocked campaign for this round or stacking back in the locked campaign?
I had a queue of 78 last night into Kaal at 6pm.
I haven't seen PC EU this busy since the last midyear mayhem.
It seems that the majority of people have come to terms with the faction lock and made amendments to their play and adjusted well.
I'd love to see the unlocked campaign busy this time around, and then hopefully everyone will be happy.
But, it seems that we need some noLock pioneers to start the ball rolling and head on over to the unlocked campaign. I guess it would take a guild on each faction to move there to make it a reality. We can hope