7K Necro Bash... Is this for real?

LonePirate · June 2019

Only 7K damage? This skill regularly hits me for 10K which is harder than Dawnbreaker hits me and it is a spammable, unlike Dawnbreaker. Even worse, you never see it coming most of the time. You can go from full health to dead in an instant and there is nothing you can do. If you see it coming, it’s already too late to do anything about it.

It’s an understatement to say this skill unbalanced compared to everything else. The ultimate should offer the 30K health or a one time AOE like Dawnbreaker. It should definitely not be what is today - something better than Barrier while also providing a spammable 10K skill. Yet just like with every other broken mechanic in this game, ZOS does not care. How many patches have we had since the OP? How many more will we have?

Jeremy · June 2019

Muanthuun wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

https://imgur.com/xfIIXbq

This seems kind of overpowered. The guy was just going around deleting people in 2 seconds with this bash.

I get routinely impaled for 7k+.

Yes, but Impale is an execute and you have to be almost dead for it to do good damage and it isn't nearly so fast. There just isn't any comparison between that bash cheese and impale. That's like comparing a fire cracker to a rocket.

Jeremy · June 2019

LonePirate wrote: »

Only 7K damage? This skill regularly hits me for 10K which is harder than Dawnbreaker hits me and it is a spammable, unlike Dawnbreaker. Even worse, you never see it coming most of the time. You can go from full health to dead in an instant and there is nothing you can do. If you see it coming, it’s already too late to do anything about it.

It’s an understatement to say this skill unbalanced compared to everything else. The ultimate should offer the 30K health or a one time AOE like Dawnbreaker. It should definitely not be what is today - something better than Barrier while also providing a spammable 10K skill. Yet just like with every other broken mechanic in this game, ZOS does not care. How many patches have we had since the OP? How many more will we have?

Yeah 6, 7k is actually on the law end. That's what it does to defensive characters. On Average characters - even if they are decked out all in heavy - it can hit for 9, 10k easily.

Those who are defending this ultimate likely haven't crossed paths with a necromancer group that abuses the skill yet. I saw a group using this nonsense to obliterate entire armies concentrated around rams in Cyrodil the other day. It was like a mobile nuclear bomb.

Rakno87 · June 2019

Noxavian wrote: »

Considering 7k dmg is low compared to most fully charged heavy attacks and that's an ultimate ability, yeah, that is real.

And it's fine too.

NOPE NOPE NOPE!

Emmagoldman · June 2019

max_only wrote: »

prototypefb wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

ganzaeso wrote: »

It would damage the state of PvE tanking to put a cool down on bash.

So what you're saying is "bash nerfs incoming"?

Actually bash nerds via snb nerfs would be welcome,snb skills and passive are op,should have been nerfed long ago

Wow. So pve doesn’t exist huh? S&b need to be buffed. Full strength enchants passive on s&b is needed for tanks to make up for the enchant nerf we just got due to pvp whiners. 90% of this game is being held hostage by pvpers now that the combat lead only cares about pvp.

hey hey, sounds like pve whining to me

beadabow · June 2019

Have not been to PvP land recently, is it all just Necro's bashing each other now? Race to see who can get their ultimate up first? Sounds kind of fun for a few hours maybe. I would certainly want to run Decisive traits on my weapons for that 40% chance of outlasting my opponent! Then...hmmmm...guess I'll go do something else.

Rygonix · June 2019

beadabow wrote: »

Have not been to PvP land recently, is it all just Necro's bashing each other now? Race to see who can get their ultimate up first?

Yes, that's basically what it's devolved into and will only get worse the longer that ZoS turns a blind eye to it. While it's cool to see organized ball zergs implode from one player spamming bash it does get very old after awhile no matter if the basher is on your side or the enemy's.

Vlad9425 · June 2019

The buff from shuffle and blade cloak (major evasion) counters the Necro bash quite well, also I start blocking immediately if I start seeing someone spam the bash so there are ways to get around this. The ability will probably get nerfed in the future though.

StShoot · June 2019

Rygonix wrote: »

beadabow wrote: »

Have not been to PvP land recently, is it all just Necro's bashing each other now? Race to see who can get their ultimate up first?

Yes, that's basically what it's devolved into and will only get worse the longer that ZoS turns a blind eye to it. While it's cool to see organized ball zergs implode from one player spamming bash it does get very old after awhile no matter if the basher is on your side or the enemy's.

Hmmmm and what do you think will happen when ballgroups find out about that *** ? ^^ a little bit of coordination and a ballgroup can have one of those ults up all the time, enjoy

bone Coloss in a nutshell, it is to tanky for the dmg it dishes out, the healing of that ult is not reduced by battlespirit, and you can still cast kils why you are in that form, so you can maintain, you snare immunety, you gap closers and you execute (not that you need it)

I bet instead of fixing this ult zos will remove the bash passive from S&B and nerfing pve tanks once again.

Unfadingsilence · June 2019

Oh well its getting patched anyways can we close this now?

Unfadingsilence · June 2019

For the people who just post stuff and dont read

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hey everyone,

We've seen your feedback and concerns about the Pummeling Goliath ability and the detrimental impact it is currently having in PvP content. As a result, we have some significant changes coming for the ability and other related mechanics in next week's incremental patch. Watch for full details in the patch notes on Monday.