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7K Necro Bash... Is this for real?
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✭✭✭✭✭twilightwarrick wrote: »wish all the pvp players would stop moaning every time there's an ability they don't like
there's been that many nerfs lately, its not funny.
and for someone that mainly pve,s its ruining the whole game
suck it up and be a man, or woman
Would be nice if pvers stopped blaming for pvp for everything from skills nerf to outside rain
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✭I don't play a necromancer, but I don't think this is OP. It's a 250 cost ultimate. The bone goliath form is very obvious and only lasts 20 seconds. You basically just get the hell out of dodge when a necro uses this and try to stall for time. After stalling for 20 seconds you re-engage. Learn to play issue simply put.
And yes I too foolishly attacked a necromancer in goliath form (the AOE morph) because I had no idea how it worked, and yes I died.
"just don't engage" and "run away" isn't valid counter-play. if an ability is so good that your only option is to opt out of combat entirely, it's too good. bash weaving with a 7k bash is hilariously broken, it's literally an extra 7k dps for 20 seconds for builds that can sustain it. it's like adding a 7k damage proc to your light attacks for the duration, lol. 2k light attack, 3k heroic, 7k bash is 12k dps, which means you'd be pretty much 2 shotting people. in what world is that balanced?
Fair enough. As a NB I can disengage more easily and wait it out, but for the other classes (other than sorcs) its a bit trickier. I got crit for 13.4k by a necro bash today, and see more and more people in BG's using this so its catching on.
Yeah this shouldn't be a thing. There is no way the class reps didn't notice this, and it was mentioned on the PTS forums multiple times with there even being a thread about it IIRC. I'm honestly really curious how this even made it to PTS. Is there not a single person on the development team who tried to pvp with this? How about someone who actually knows how to bash cancel or even knows what it is? The answer seems to be "no" and that legitimately worries me, lol.Gryphon Heart
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Wycks✭✭✭✭This needs to be addressed ASAP for pvp, insta killing people ... if ZOS acknowledges its a bug then at least players might stop abusing it, until they actually fix it.
The numbers thing is always going to be there, but it’s more down to player skill and there are ways through ability choice to configure a group to be stronger vs. large groups of people. - BRAIN WHEELER - 2012 - LOL1 -
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✭Avran_Sylt wrote: »Is that Bash as spammable as the regular bash is? Or does it have a 1s GCD?
Same speed as a normal bash. So like 3 per second all hitting harder than an incap and is also AOE. And you have people who think it's perfectly balanced
Overload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭You guys! It’s perfectly balanced! the non biased testers and community VIPs made sure of it! It’s too late to complain now! You should have complained on PTS! Just use your race change token! Just git Gud! You roleplayers don’t know what you’re talking about! Stop complaining Lolololololol
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amir412✭✭✭✭✭
✭Considering 7k dmg is low compared to most fully charged heavy attacks and that's an ultimate ability, yeah, that is real.
And it's fine too.
You, getting 39 agrees for such a stupid claim, reminds me how awsome this community is.
7k dmg for bash is absurd.Edited by amir412 on May 26, 2019 6:57AMPC | EU | AD |Stam Dk named "-Saidden"| 1700 CP|"..A world without fire. Ashen one, is this truly thy wish?.."17 -
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I burst out laughing when I read that comment. 39 agrees later it's not so funny anymore and I've lost all faith in humanity.PC/NA — Daggerfall Covenant — BGs, Kaalgrontiid
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Oliwaltony✭✭✭And again, pvpers complaining will get the pveers to get screwed by getting a fine skill to be nerfed. Can we get seperate skills values in pvp/pve already?2 -
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✭✭Oliwaltony wrote: »And again, pvpers complaining will get the pveers to get screwed by getting a fine skill to be nerfed. Can we get seperate skills values in pvp/pve already?
So 20k damage for 20 seconds you can use 50 bashes, it is 1mil damage. Basically u pop up ulti and u nuke a boss in vMA if there is no specific mechanic. Yes that sounds balanced. Good that bosses cannot complain
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Oliwaltony✭✭✭Oliwaltony wrote: »And again, pvpers complaining will get the pveers to get screwed by getting a fine skill to be nerfed. Can we get seperate skills values in pvp/pve already?
So 20k damage for 20 seconds you can use 50 bashes, it is 1mil damage. Basically u pop up ulti and u nuke a boss in vMA if there is no specific mechanic. Yes that sounds balanced. Good that bosses cannot complain
That's 50k dps over 20 seconds at the cost of 250 ulti that you need to generate at a lower dps. That does'nt seems broken at all? and that is if you build around that, which most pveers wont do. It is broken in pvp only, not in pve.
BTW vMA bosses does haves mechanics and will nuke you down if all you do is bash even with the extra 30k health. If you build yourself with sword and shield and try to maximize the dammage of the ult, I can garantee you you'll die, alot. vMA drops you downs easily if you dont have anything else than dammage, and even there, 50k dps is'nt even that much.Edited by Oliwaltony on May 26, 2019 2:03PM3 -
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✭✭Oliwaltony wrote: »Oliwaltony wrote: »And again, pvpers complaining will get the pveers to get screwed by getting a fine skill to be nerfed. Can we get seperate skills values in pvp/pve already?
So 20k damage for 20 seconds you can use 50 bashes, it is 1mil damage. Basically u pop up ulti and u nuke a boss in vMA if there is no specific mechanic. Yes that sounds balanced. Good that bosses cannot complain
That's 50k dps over 20 seconds at the cost of 250 ulti that you need to generate at a lower dps. That does'nt seems broken at all? and that is if you build around that, which most pveers wont do. It is broken in pvp only, not in pve.
BTW vMA bosses does haves mechanics and will nuke you down if all you do is bash even with the extra 30k health. If you build yourself with sword and shield and try to maximize the dammage of the ult, I can garantee you you'll die, alot. vMA drops you downs easily if you dont have anything else than dammage, and even there, 50k dps is'nt even that much.
Then why do you care so much about it if it's not relevant in PvE?Edited by TheYKcid on May 26, 2019 2:49PMPC/NA — Daggerfall Covenant — BGs, Kaalgrontiid
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Oliwaltony✭✭✭Oliwaltony wrote: »Oliwaltony wrote: »And again, pvpers complaining will get the pveers to get screwed by getting a fine skill to be nerfed. Can we get seperate skills values in pvp/pve already?
So 20k damage for 20 seconds you can use 50 bashes, it is 1mil damage. Basically u pop up ulti and u nuke a boss in vMA if there is no specific mechanic. Yes that sounds balanced. Good that bosses cannot complain
That's 50k dps over 20 seconds at the cost of 250 ulti that you need to generate at a lower dps. That does'nt seems broken at all? and that is if you build around that, which most pveers wont do. It is broken in pvp only, not in pve.
BTW vMA bosses does haves mechanics and will nuke you down if all you do is bash even with the extra 30k health. If you build yourself with sword and shield and try to maximize the dammage of the ult, I can garantee you you'll die, alot. vMA drops you downs easily if you dont have anything else than dammage, and even there, 50k dps is'nt even that much.
Then why do you care so much about it if it's not relevant in PvE?
you misquoted me and try to shut me down, but I never said it wasn't relevant, I said, and proved it was ok, but not OP. I do not need OP, neither do I need crappy nerfed skill. Ok is ok. It need to be usable, and right now it is, without breacking the game in pve. In pvp it does. My earlier point still stand: make it so the skills scales differently in pvp: Most problems solved.4 -
Transairion✭✭✭✭✭I'm assuming Necro-Ult AOE Bash is meant to have a cooldown attached that somehow missed PTS? Can they even code that, adding a CD on Bash when using one Ult morph only?0 -
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✭Oliwaltony wrote: »Oliwaltony wrote: »And again, pvpers complaining will get the pveers to get screwed by getting a fine skill to be nerfed. Can we get seperate skills values in pvp/pve already?
So 20k damage for 20 seconds you can use 50 bashes, it is 1mil damage. Basically u pop up ulti and u nuke a boss in vMA if there is no specific mechanic. Yes that sounds balanced. Good that bosses cannot complain
That's 50k dps over 20 seconds at the cost of 250 ulti that you need to generate at a lower dps. That does'nt seems broken at all? and that is if you build around that, which most pveers wont do. It is broken in pvp only, not in pve.
BTW vMA bosses does haves mechanics and will nuke you down if all you do is bash even with the extra 30k health. If you build yourself with sword and shield and try to maximize the dammage of the ult, I can garantee you you'll die, alot. vMA drops you downs easily if you dont have anything else than dammage, and even there, 50k dps is'nt even that much.
Then why do you care so much about it if it's not relevant in PvE?
All the bosses in there can be nuked to oblivion without doing their mechanics excluding round 8 where you have to break the pylons and round 9 unless you're that one guy I heard about who nuked him before the boss went up even once. Round 5 I guess you gotta swap icebergs. Not really many mechanics in there to worry about if you can blow em up.They nerfed magsorcs so hard stamsorcs felt it,lol - Somber97866
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Oliwaltony✭✭✭Oliwaltony wrote: »Oliwaltony wrote: »And again, pvpers complaining will get the pveers to get screwed by getting a fine skill to be nerfed. Can we get seperate skills values in pvp/pve already?
So 20k damage for 20 seconds you can use 50 bashes, it is 1mil damage. Basically u pop up ulti and u nuke a boss in vMA if there is no specific mechanic. Yes that sounds balanced. Good that bosses cannot complain
That's 50k dps over 20 seconds at the cost of 250 ulti that you need to generate at a lower dps. That does'nt seems broken at all? and that is if you build around that, which most pveers wont do. It is broken in pvp only, not in pve.
BTW vMA bosses does haves mechanics and will nuke you down if all you do is bash even with the extra 30k health. If you build yourself with sword and shield and try to maximize the dammage of the ult, I can garantee you you'll die, alot. vMA drops you downs easily if you dont have anything else than dammage, and even there, 50k dps is'nt even that much.
Then why do you care so much about it if it's not relevant in PvE?
All the bosses in there can be nuked to oblivion without doing their mechanics excluding round 8 where you have to break the pylons and round 9 unless you're that one guy I heard about who nuked him before the boss went up even once. Round 5 I guess you gotta swap icebergs. Not really many mechanics in there to worry about if you can blow em up.
With a proper build, yeah. Not with a bashing necro ahaha.1 -
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✭Necromancer is King of PvP and PvE.
It is what the Holy Great Divine Creator ZOS decided.
We have to pray to ZOS every day for 36 hours and keep shouting "Yes!".
King of DPS? Yes! We can Necromancer!!
King of Tank? Yes! We can Necromancer!!
King of Healer? Yes! We can Necromancer!!
This is beautiful destiny and great happiness so you should jump off the cliff if you feel in doubt.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Can this work for magicka necro. Asking for a friend.
Not really, cause you kinda need Stam pool and SnB to bash like that
All they need to do is while in the form have a bash GCD limiter0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Can this work for magicka necro. Asking for a friend.
Does anything work for magicka necro? Asking for a different friend.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭I completely thought that you'd be doing the same attack that your flesh colossus Ulti does, as an Attack Override kinda thing.
Turns out it's literally just bash with a conal AoE.0 -
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✭✭✭Well, I just ran 5 hours on a Sunday night, primetime, in Cyrodiil and not once died to any cheese bash builds. The sky isn't falling, I guess.Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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✭Emma_Overload wrote: »https://imgur.com/xfIIXbq
This seems kind of overpowered. The guy was just going around deleting people in 2 seconds with this bash.
This is the one side of the coin.
Now show us the other.
Your mitigations.
I`m sure you are in pve gear and probably light armor too.
I wont ask you why you dont kite him when you see he use his ulty?
Is hard to miss.
Its clear that you dont have idea what his ultimate do. Now you do.
No offense m8, but is clealy l2p issue.
Next time you go to imperial city, bring somefriends and equip some pvp gar. It helps.
Have fun
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✭Nemesis7884 wrote: »Ulti is super expensive tough
I heard that one before, but in reference to an Ice cold jerky-jerk AOE snare ultimate. Now we get a juicy big-bone 7k, after mitigation
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I actually want to see that now. Watch a "meta" snareden snare a necro in place, only to eat multiple 7k bashes lol.
I`m sure he had 8k mits m8.
Just saying.
Nope.kollege14a5 wrote: »
In regards to it being 250 ulti, do you gain ultimate while transformed?Edited by Runkorko on May 27, 2019 6:32AM0
