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thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
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Of course not. Every time someone says something like this, I think it is snobbish, elitist nonsense. When you look at Caluurion, I dare say it was made specifically for melee magblades. The class isn't rated highly for PvP, despite cloak. ZOS threw melee magblade a bone with that set.Everytime soneone said ''Im playing Melee MagBlade'' (using Caluurion and Zaan) its mostly that the Sets are killing for you... Because that's not actualy a ''real'' Melee MagBlade, is just the standar Gank/Procc build that just happend to work well with Stealth and Magicka. Try to play the same playstyle with different sets, not going to work at all...
Who am I afraid of? Not magblades, who hit me with Merciless. It's sorcs. I also dare you to actually play this and make it work against good players. By the same token, I dare you to make Zaan work. The truth is, you prefer another playstyle and you perhaps like Merciless and Shade. Fair enough, but that's all it is.
There was another thread where someone posted a mag-stacking build. The tooltips you get out of that, and the shields, were in a different league, 1.5x higher than mine. Merciless hit 33% harder than Caluu. At the same time it's your typical mag build, like a sorc or a warden. Boring. If you spec into damage, especially when you're magicka stacking, you can't also have speed AND high (cloak) sustain. As soon as you do, you start eating into your magicka. That 15% (Inner Light + Siphoning) multiplier, that brought your mag up, also makes your magicka collapse, once you take from the base stat.
You are not getting the point...
You can make the Range playstyle work with a variety of sets, you can use Torug, Spinner, Crafty Alfiq, Julianos, War Maiden, Inner Axiom, even Spell Strategist, etc, etc for damage and also have a lot of sets for defense and sustain.
When it comes to Melee MagBlade, you only 1 option (Caluurion + Zaan), so it's not that's MagBlade is meant to be a Melee Magicka Character, is that Caluurion + Zaan its a niche build that happend to work for a Melee playstyle. The same kind of playstyle will not work using any other sets...
I think this melee thing is being overblown. If you stack hots and use dark cloak- you can be in the fight. You can play melee regardless of spammable. Escape+path also makes this easier. Add troll king or pirate skelly. Protective jewls. Health recovery from gold food, health+speed from steed, there’s plenty of options to help survivability right now.
You can’t stack 3 dmg sets with arcane traits and 20k health and expect to be in the fight tho. You need to push to 25k health at least. More the better. Don’t fire the bow proc at kids you can kill like mud crabs. Realize you are squishier as you enter the fight... get some merciless stacks from range as you enter.
Lingering health pots. Tri pots, detect pots... you need them all. You also need to learn how to switch in combat.
If you stack all the possible hots mnb has...
Dark Cloak+Path+Siphoning+swallow soul- you can potentially average 2500-2700 per second. Stack another 1000 health recovery on this... stack lingering pots when your are in bad situations...
Then add in all the mitigation. And a 8k Harness over the top.
Your response is totally a "what if..." Because if you actually play like that, you will not kill anyone and eventually everyone will kill you...
Trust me you can kill just fine by using the built in defenses of the class out of stealth. I don’t stack ALL of those and I get by just fine outnumbered.
I wasn’t saying stack all of the possibles together... I could have explained that better. More of an outline of different ways to help survive.
Again... it’s not a tank and spank class, you have to use mobility to stay alive in certain scenarios. But you can def brawl on mnb if you use even half of what I outlined.
Maybe on console. Not happening on PC...
Class must dead over there.
Sorry to sound Elitist but there's stuff on console that's no way would work on PC and vice versa hahahaha.
I mostly notice this with the PvP pace, console PvP is slower, people have more "time to react". I have no idea if some players are using macros on PC but I've been hitted by entire combos in the exact same second (maybe is server lag, animation canceling, delayed register, etc).
So the playstyle you are describing, no way it would save you on PC, the burst here is just too much. Why do you think people have been crying to get a burst heal for MagNB, because hots are not a reliable source of healing to keep you alive in PvP.
That's why I said, if you play like that, you won't be able to kill anyone and eventually people will burst you down (at least on PC). I consider myself pretty fast with my dmg burst but I've meet people that are easily twice as fast. And right now the fastest burst come from MagSorcs.
That's the whole reason why Caluurion + Zaan works, because when everything procs at once, the opponent doesn't have time to react and keep up with all the incoming damage. By the time people break the initial cc, Zaan is already working its way through execute range...
By your logic hots would be stronger than a burst heal due to lack of time to react... if you’re getting blown up in a single GCD... there’s nothing a burst heal could do to help you. Hots gotta be up near 100% of the time.
I’ve never played console, but I’m PC-NA. I’ll occasionally see a magblade but it’s very rare, saw some immediately after Els but less these days.
Most magblades fall into the glass canon trap. By that I mean the thinking goes like this:
1. People are tanky, so I need to increase my damage to kill anyone
2. I’ll sacrifice defense to increase my damage
Then they’re so glass canon they’re unhealable and die in seconds if attacked. So go more glass canon and build with proc sets for pure ganking.
I’m not 100% sure, but I think I’m the only higher MMR magblade on PC-NA? When I do occasionally see other magblades they get wrecked. I’ll only do maybe 1-10 BGs per day so there might be more but I don’t see them. Usually when I do I’ll have just as many kills and damage as them as a healer.
It’s the thinking that the only way to kill anyone in pvp as a magblade is in less then 3 GCDs as a full glass canon which leads to all the ‘you can’t kill anyone with that spec’, etc’... comes from. Unfortunately the glass canon strategy just doesn’t work against experienced players so most magblades get wrecked.
I don’t think you have to build significant defenses into your build to be tanky anymore because of how grim focus is working you can basically use one protective trait in combination with merciless and be decently tanky, now once you add in minor maim, and possibly minor protection you become very survivable with little defensive investment from sets.
I personally play double damage sets, pirate Skeleton/blood spawn and all arcane jewelry and I don’t feel squishy at all, especially when you add in my ability to reposition with cloak. Defensive abilities are so strong in the game that you’ll never be a glass cannon. I’m not seeing much of a reason to equip a defensive 5 piece at all currently with how strong defensive abilities are. If you are a solo player however I would recommend a defensive monster set because open world is so unpredictable at times. If a player dies in seconds it’s because they didn’t activate any of their defensive buffs.
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Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
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Completely agree and I think life steal would be the better option imo as we are obviously using concealed over swallow soul and our heals are already bad.milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »
With the exception of a single morph of a single skill (Shadowy Disguise), that ability simply does not synergize well with the rest of the class kit.Deathlord92 wrote: »Yes I have said this few times and I really want a concealed weapon rework to.
I'm going to restate my wish for Minor Breach or Minor Lifesteal to be rolled into this skill.
Edited by Deathlord92 on June 17, 2019 8:33AM1 -
Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
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Of course not. Every time someone says something like this, I think it is snobbish, elitist nonsense. When you look at Caluurion, I dare say it was made specifically for melee magblades. The class isn't rated highly for PvP, despite cloak. ZOS threw melee magblade a bone with that set.Everytime soneone said ''Im playing Melee MagBlade'' (using Caluurion and Zaan) its mostly that the Sets are killing for you... Because that's not actualy a ''real'' Melee MagBlade, is just the standar Gank/Procc build that just happend to work well with Stealth and Magicka. Try to play the same playstyle with different sets, not going to work at all...
Who am I afraid of? Not magblades, who hit me with Merciless. It's sorcs. I also dare you to actually play this and make it work against good players. By the same token, I dare you to make Zaan work. The truth is, you prefer another playstyle and you perhaps like Merciless and Shade. Fair enough, but that's all it is.
There was another thread where someone posted a mag-stacking build. The tooltips you get out of that, and the shields, were in a different league, 1.5x higher than mine. Merciless hit 33% harder than Caluu. At the same time it's your typical mag build, like a sorc or a warden. Boring. If you spec into damage, especially when you're magicka stacking, you can't also have speed AND high (cloak) sustain. As soon as you do, you start eating into your magicka. That 15% (Inner Light + Siphoning) multiplier, that brought your mag up, also makes your magicka collapse, once you take from the base stat.
You are not getting the point...
You can make the Range playstyle work with a variety of sets, you can use Torug, Spinner, Crafty Alfiq, Julianos, War Maiden, Inner Axiom, even Spell Strategist, etc, etc for damage and also have a lot of sets for defense and sustain.
When it comes to Melee MagBlade, you only 1 option (Caluurion + Zaan), so it's not that's MagBlade is meant to be a Melee Magicka Character, is that Caluurion + Zaan its a niche build that happend to work for a Melee playstyle. The same kind of playstyle will not work using any other sets...
I think this melee thing is being overblown. If you stack hots and use dark cloak- you can be in the fight. You can play melee regardless of spammable. Escape+path also makes this easier. Add troll king or pirate skelly. Protective jewls. Health recovery from gold food, health+speed from steed, there’s plenty of options to help survivability right now.
You can’t stack 3 dmg sets with arcane traits and 20k health and expect to be in the fight tho. You need to push to 25k health at least. More the better. Don’t fire the bow proc at kids you can kill like mud crabs. Realize you are squishier as you enter the fight... get some merciless stacks from range as you enter.
Lingering health pots. Tri pots, detect pots... you need them all. You also need to learn how to switch in combat.
If you stack all the possible hots mnb has...
Dark Cloak+Path+Siphoning+swallow soul- you can potentially average 2500-2700 per second. Stack another 1000 health recovery on this... stack lingering pots when your are in bad situations...
Then add in all the mitigation. And a 8k Harness over the top.
Your response is totally a "what if..." Because if you actually play like that, you will not kill anyone and eventually everyone will kill you...
Trust me you can kill just fine by using the built in defenses of the class out of stealth. I don’t stack ALL of those and I get by just fine outnumbered.
I wasn’t saying stack all of the possibles together... I could have explained that better. More of an outline of different ways to help survive.
Again... it’s not a tank and spank class, you have to use mobility to stay alive in certain scenarios. But you can def brawl on mnb if you use even half of what I outlined.
Maybe on console. Not happening on PC...
Class must dead over there.
Sorry to sound Elitist but there's stuff on console that's no way would work on PC and vice versa hahahaha.
I mostly notice this with the PvP pace, console PvP is slower, people have more "time to react". I have no idea if some players are using macros on PC but I've been hitted by entire combos in the exact same second (maybe is server lag, animation canceling, delayed register, etc).
So the playstyle you are describing, no way it would save you on PC, the burst here is just too much. Why do you think people have been crying to get a burst heal for MagNB, because hots are not a reliable source of healing to keep you alive in PvP.
That's why I said, if you play like that, you won't be able to kill anyone and eventually people will burst you down (at least on PC). I consider myself pretty fast with my dmg burst but I've meet people that are easily twice as fast. And right now the fastest burst come from MagSorcs.
That's the whole reason why Caluurion + Zaan works, because when everything procs at once, the opponent doesn't have time to react and keep up with all the incoming damage. By the time people break the initial cc, Zaan is already working its way through execute range...
By your logic hots would be stronger than a burst heal due to lack of time to react... if you’re getting blown up in a single GCD... there’s nothing a burst heal could do to help you. Hots gotta be up near 100% of the time.
I’ve never played console, but I’m PC-NA. I’ll occasionally see a magblade but it’s very rare, saw some immediately after Els but less these days.
Most magblades fall into the glass canon trap. By that I mean the thinking goes like this:
1. People are tanky, so I need to increase my damage to kill anyone
2. I’ll sacrifice defense to increase my damage
Then they’re so glass canon they’re unhealable and die in seconds if attacked. So go more glass canon and build with proc sets for pure ganking.
I’m not 100% sure, but I think I’m the only higher MMR magblade on PC-NA? When I do occasionally see other magblades they get wrecked. I’ll only do maybe 1-10 BGs per day so there might be more but I don’t see them. Usually when I do I’ll have just as many kills and damage as them as a healer.
It’s the thinking that the only way to kill anyone in pvp as a magblade is in less then 3 GCDs as a full glass canon which leads to all the ‘you can’t kill anyone with that spec’, etc’... comes from. Unfortunately the glass canon strategy just doesn’t work against experienced players so most magblades get wrecked.
The other classes (specifically Templars and Wardens) can heal themselves and other players from execute to 100% with the push of a key. MagBlade can't do that, our option is trying to outdps them with pressure and at the same time we heal ourselves.
Remember the concept of MagBlade is "the more dmg you do, the most healing you get" (swallow soul, merciless resolve and siphoning attacks). The problem with this playstyle is that is super unreliable and if you focus on having more raw defense, you will not kill anyone. Our defense supposed to be our "tricks", stealth, shadow, fear and positioning...
And neither of those classes (nor DK) have a mobility skill anywhere close to Shade.
I never use shade outside of dueling. It's super unreliable... Streak does the same but 100% better.
Imo shade should not have a timer. When you cast it, that's it, the shade should stay there forever until you teleport to it or until you recast it in another place outside of the teleport range. But the timer is so unreliable, I loss the count of how many times my shade have expired the second before I was actually going to use it...
Gimping yourself tbh. Take some time and practice shade usage. *** ain’t streak easy and yes it can be unreliable but it’s saved me plenty more times than it hasn’t.2 -
Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭thankyourat wrote: »
Of course not. Every time someone says something like this, I think it is snobbish, elitist nonsense. When you look at Caluurion, I dare say it was made specifically for melee magblades. The class isn't rated highly for PvP, despite cloak. ZOS threw melee magblade a bone with that set.Everytime soneone said ''Im playing Melee MagBlade'' (using Caluurion and Zaan) its mostly that the Sets are killing for you... Because that's not actualy a ''real'' Melee MagBlade, is just the standar Gank/Procc build that just happend to work well with Stealth and Magicka. Try to play the same playstyle with different sets, not going to work at all...
Who am I afraid of? Not magblades, who hit me with Merciless. It's sorcs. I also dare you to actually play this and make it work against good players. By the same token, I dare you to make Zaan work. The truth is, you prefer another playstyle and you perhaps like Merciless and Shade. Fair enough, but that's all it is.
There was another thread where someone posted a mag-stacking build. The tooltips you get out of that, and the shields, were in a different league, 1.5x higher than mine. Merciless hit 33% harder than Caluu. At the same time it's your typical mag build, like a sorc or a warden. Boring. If you spec into damage, especially when you're magicka stacking, you can't also have speed AND high (cloak) sustain. As soon as you do, you start eating into your magicka. That 15% (Inner Light + Siphoning) multiplier, that brought your mag up, also makes your magicka collapse, once you take from the base stat.
You are not getting the point...
You can make the Range playstyle work with a variety of sets, you can use Torug, Spinner, Crafty Alfiq, Julianos, War Maiden, Inner Axiom, even Spell Strategist, etc, etc for damage and also have a lot of sets for defense and sustain.
When it comes to Melee MagBlade, you only 1 option (Caluurion + Zaan), so it's not that's MagBlade is meant to be a Melee Magicka Character, is that Caluurion + Zaan its a niche build that happend to work for a Melee playstyle. The same kind of playstyle will not work using any other sets...
I think this melee thing is being overblown. If you stack hots and use dark cloak- you can be in the fight. You can play melee regardless of spammable. Escape+path also makes this easier. Add troll king or pirate skelly. Protective jewls. Health recovery from gold food, health+speed from steed, there’s plenty of options to help survivability right now.
You can’t stack 3 dmg sets with arcane traits and 20k health and expect to be in the fight tho. You need to push to 25k health at least. More the better. Don’t fire the bow proc at kids you can kill like mud crabs. Realize you are squishier as you enter the fight... get some merciless stacks from range as you enter.
Lingering health pots. Tri pots, detect pots... you need them all. You also need to learn how to switch in combat.
If you stack all the possible hots mnb has...
Dark Cloak+Path+Siphoning+swallow soul- you can potentially average 2500-2700 per second. Stack another 1000 health recovery on this... stack lingering pots when your are in bad situations...
Then add in all the mitigation. And a 8k Harness over the top.
Your response is totally a "what if..." Because if you actually play like that, you will not kill anyone and eventually everyone will kill you...
Trust me you can kill just fine by using the built in defenses of the class out of stealth. I don’t stack ALL of those and I get by just fine outnumbered.
I wasn’t saying stack all of the possibles together... I could have explained that better. More of an outline of different ways to help survive.
Again... it’s not a tank and spank class, you have to use mobility to stay alive in certain scenarios. But you can def brawl on mnb if you use even half of what I outlined.
Maybe on console. Not happening on PC...
Class must dead over there.
Sorry to sound Elitist but there's stuff on console that's no way would work on PC and vice versa hahahaha.
I mostly notice this with the PvP pace, console PvP is slower, people have more "time to react". I have no idea if some players are using macros on PC but I've been hitted by entire combos in the exact same second (maybe is server lag, animation canceling, delayed register, etc).
So the playstyle you are describing, no way it would save you on PC, the burst here is just too much. Why do you think people have been crying to get a burst heal for MagNB, because hots are not a reliable source of healing to keep you alive in PvP.
That's why I said, if you play like that, you won't be able to kill anyone and eventually people will burst you down (at least on PC). I consider myself pretty fast with my dmg burst but I've meet people that are easily twice as fast. And right now the fastest burst come from MagSorcs.
That's the whole reason why Caluurion + Zaan works, because when everything procs at once, the opponent doesn't have time to react and keep up with all the incoming damage. By the time people break the initial cc, Zaan is already working its way through execute range...
By your logic hots would be stronger than a burst heal due to lack of time to react... if you’re getting blown up in a single GCD... there’s nothing a burst heal could do to help you. Hots gotta be up near 100% of the time.
I’ve never played console, but I’m PC-NA. I’ll occasionally see a magblade but it’s very rare, saw some immediately after Els but less these days.
Most magblades fall into the glass canon trap. By that I mean the thinking goes like this:
1. People are tanky, so I need to increase my damage to kill anyone
2. I’ll sacrifice defense to increase my damage
Then they’re so glass canon they’re unhealable and die in seconds if attacked. So go more glass canon and build with proc sets for pure ganking.
I’m not 100% sure, but I think I’m the only higher MMR magblade on PC-NA? When I do occasionally see other magblades they get wrecked. I’ll only do maybe 1-10 BGs per day so there might be more but I don’t see them. Usually when I do I’ll have just as many kills and damage as them as a healer.
It’s the thinking that the only way to kill anyone in pvp as a magblade is in less then 3 GCDs as a full glass canon which leads to all the ‘you can’t kill anyone with that spec’, etc’... comes from. Unfortunately the glass canon strategy just doesn’t work against experienced players so most magblades get wrecked.
I don’t think you have to build significant defenses into your build to be tanky anymore because of how grim focus is working you can basically use one protective trait in combination with merciless and be decently tanky, now once you add in minor maim, and possibly minor protection you become very survivable with little defensive investment from sets.
I personally play double damage sets, pirate Skeleton/blood spawn and all arcane jewelry and I don’t feel squishy at all, especially when you add in my ability to reposition with cloak. Defensive abilities are so strong in the game that you’ll never be a glass cannon. I’m not seeing much of a reason to equip a defensive 5 piece at all currently with how strong defensive abilities are. If you are a solo player however I would recommend a defensive monster set because open world is so unpredictable at times. If a player dies in seconds it’s because they didn’t activate any of their defensive buffs.
Basically exactly how’s I’m playing this patch. 1 protective. Domi/Skelly split. Double dmg sets. Dark cloak. 23~k resists. 15% merciless, minor maim, minor protection. 49k Max mag, 28k health, 14k Stam.
Squishy magblade a thing of the past.
Wanna try bloodspawn soon. Pirate skelly works well. Maybe better than troll king now even.0 -
Chelo✭✭✭✭✭
Of course not. Every time someone says something like this, I think it is snobbish, elitist nonsense. When you look at Caluurion, I dare say it was made specifically for melee magblades. The class isn't rated highly for PvP, despite cloak. ZOS threw melee magblade a bone with that set.Everytime soneone said ''Im playing Melee MagBlade'' (using Caluurion and Zaan) its mostly that the Sets are killing for you... Because that's not actualy a ''real'' Melee MagBlade, is just the standar Gank/Procc build that just happend to work well with Stealth and Magicka. Try to play the same playstyle with different sets, not going to work at all...
Who am I afraid of? Not magblades, who hit me with Merciless. It's sorcs. I also dare you to actually play this and make it work against good players. By the same token, I dare you to make Zaan work. The truth is, you prefer another playstyle and you perhaps like Merciless and Shade. Fair enough, but that's all it is.
There was another thread where someone posted a mag-stacking build. The tooltips you get out of that, and the shields, were in a different league, 1.5x higher than mine. Merciless hit 33% harder than Caluu. At the same time it's your typical mag build, like a sorc or a warden. Boring. If you spec into damage, especially when you're magicka stacking, you can't also have speed AND high (cloak) sustain. As soon as you do, you start eating into your magicka. That 15% (Inner Light + Siphoning) multiplier, that brought your mag up, also makes your magicka collapse, once you take from the base stat.
You are not getting the point...
You can make the Range playstyle work with a variety of sets, you can use Torug, Spinner, Crafty Alfiq, Julianos, War Maiden, Inner Axiom, even Spell Strategist, etc, etc for damage and also have a lot of sets for defense and sustain.
When it comes to Melee MagBlade, you only 1 option (Caluurion + Zaan), so it's not that's MagBlade is meant to be a Melee Magicka Character, is that Caluurion + Zaan its a niche build that happend to work for a Melee playstyle. The same kind of playstyle will not work using any other sets...
I think this melee thing is being overblown. If you stack hots and use dark cloak- you can be in the fight. You can play melee regardless of spammable. Escape+path also makes this easier. Add troll king or pirate skelly. Protective jewls. Health recovery from gold food, health+speed from steed, there’s plenty of options to help survivability right now.
You can’t stack 3 dmg sets with arcane traits and 20k health and expect to be in the fight tho. You need to push to 25k health at least. More the better. Don’t fire the bow proc at kids you can kill like mud crabs. Realize you are squishier as you enter the fight... get some merciless stacks from range as you enter.
Lingering health pots. Tri pots, detect pots... you need them all. You also need to learn how to switch in combat.
If you stack all the possible hots mnb has...
Dark Cloak+Path+Siphoning+swallow soul- you can potentially average 2500-2700 per second. Stack another 1000 health recovery on this... stack lingering pots when your are in bad situations...
Then add in all the mitigation. And a 8k Harness over the top.
Your response is totally a "what if..." Because if you actually play like that, you will not kill anyone and eventually everyone will kill you...
Trust me you can kill just fine by using the built in defenses of the class out of stealth. I don’t stack ALL of those and I get by just fine outnumbered.
I wasn’t saying stack all of the possibles together... I could have explained that better. More of an outline of different ways to help survive.
Again... it’s not a tank and spank class, you have to use mobility to stay alive in certain scenarios. But you can def brawl on mnb if you use even half of what I outlined.
Maybe on console. Not happening on PC...
Class must dead over there.
Sorry to sound Elitist but there's stuff on console that's no way would work on PC and vice versa hahahaha.
I mostly notice this with the PvP pace, console PvP is slower, people have more "time to react". I have no idea if some players are using macros on PC but I've been hitted by entire combos in the exact same second (maybe is server lag, animation canceling, delayed register, etc).
So the playstyle you are describing, no way it would save you on PC, the burst here is just too much. Why do you think people have been crying to get a burst heal for MagNB, because hots are not a reliable source of healing to keep you alive in PvP.
That's why I said, if you play like that, you won't be able to kill anyone and eventually people will burst you down (at least on PC). I consider myself pretty fast with my dmg burst but I've meet people that are easily twice as fast. And right now the fastest burst come from MagSorcs.
That's the whole reason why Caluurion + Zaan works, because when everything procs at once, the opponent doesn't have time to react and keep up with all the incoming damage. By the time people break the initial cc, Zaan is already working its way through execute range...
By your logic hots would be stronger than a burst heal due to lack of time to react... if you’re getting blown up in a single GCD... there’s nothing a burst heal could do to help you. Hots gotta be up near 100% of the time.
I’ve never played console, but I’m PC-NA. I’ll occasionally see a magblade but it’s very rare, saw some immediately after Els but less these days.
Most magblades fall into the glass canon trap. By that I mean the thinking goes like this:
1. People are tanky, so I need to increase my damage to kill anyone
2. I’ll sacrifice defense to increase my damage
Then they’re so glass canon they’re unhealable and die in seconds if attacked. So go more glass canon and build with proc sets for pure ganking.
I’m not 100% sure, but I think I’m the only higher MMR magblade on PC-NA? When I do occasionally see other magblades they get wrecked. I’ll only do maybe 1-10 BGs per day so there might be more but I don’t see them. Usually when I do I’ll have just as many kills and damage as them as a healer.
It’s the thinking that the only way to kill anyone in pvp as a magblade is in less then 3 GCDs as a full glass canon which leads to all the ‘you can’t kill anyone with that spec’, etc’... comes from. Unfortunately the glass canon strategy just doesn’t work against experienced players so most magblades get wrecked.
The other classes (specifically Templars and Wardens) can heal themselves and other players from execute to 100% with the push of a key. MagBlade can't do that, our option is trying to outdps them with pressure and at the same time we heal ourselves.
Remember the concept of MagBlade is "the more dmg you do, the most healing you get" (swallow soul, merciless resolve and siphoning attacks). The problem with this playstyle is that is super unreliable and if you focus on having more raw defense, you will not kill anyone. Our defense supposed to be our "tricks", stealth, shadow, fear and positioning...
And neither of those classes (nor DK) have a mobility skill anywhere close to Shade.
I never use shade outside of dueling. It's super unreliable... Streak does the same but 100% better.
Imo shade should not have a timer. When you cast it, that's it, the shade should stay there forever until you teleport to it or until you recast it in another place outside of the teleport range. But the timer is so unreliable, I loss the count of how many times my shade have expired the second before I was actually going to use it...
Gimping yourself tbh. Take some time and practice shade usage. *** ain’t streak easy and yes it can be unreliable but it’s saved me plenty more times than it hasn’t.
I mostly do dueling or BGs. Shade is super useful in dueling, but kinda useless in BGs... For BGs I use Mist Form. And I imagine is somehow useful for setting ganks in Cyrodill and solo play. But still a really unreliable skill like most of the MagNB kit. MagNB is mostly a hit or miss with our skill set.. Sometimes everything works great, sometimes nothing go as planned...1 -
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Of course not. Every time someone says something like this, I think it is snobbish, elitist nonsense. When you look at Caluurion, I dare say it was made specifically for melee magblades. The class isn't rated highly for PvP, despite cloak. ZOS threw melee magblade a bone with that set.Everytime soneone said ''Im playing Melee MagBlade'' (using Caluurion and Zaan) its mostly that the Sets are killing for you... Because that's not actualy a ''real'' Melee MagBlade, is just the standar Gank/Procc build that just happend to work well with Stealth and Magicka. Try to play the same playstyle with different sets, not going to work at all...
Who am I afraid of? Not magblades, who hit me with Merciless. It's sorcs. I also dare you to actually play this and make it work against good players. By the same token, I dare you to make Zaan work. The truth is, you prefer another playstyle and you perhaps like Merciless and Shade. Fair enough, but that's all it is.
There was another thread where someone posted a mag-stacking build. The tooltips you get out of that, and the shields, were in a different league, 1.5x higher than mine. Merciless hit 33% harder than Caluu. At the same time it's your typical mag build, like a sorc or a warden. Boring. If you spec into damage, especially when you're magicka stacking, you can't also have speed AND high (cloak) sustain. As soon as you do, you start eating into your magicka. That 15% (Inner Light + Siphoning) multiplier, that brought your mag up, also makes your magicka collapse, once you take from the base stat.
You are not getting the point...
You can make the Range playstyle work with a variety of sets, you can use Torug, Spinner, Crafty Alfiq, Julianos, War Maiden, Inner Axiom, even Spell Strategist, etc, etc for damage and also have a lot of sets for defense and sustain.
When it comes to Melee MagBlade, you only 1 option (Caluurion + Zaan), so it's not that's MagBlade is meant to be a Melee Magicka Character, is that Caluurion + Zaan its a niche build that happend to work for a Melee playstyle. The same kind of playstyle will not work using any other sets...
I think this melee thing is being overblown. If you stack hots and use dark cloak- you can be in the fight. You can play melee regardless of spammable. Escape+path also makes this easier. Add troll king or pirate skelly. Protective jewls. Health recovery from gold food, health+speed from steed, there’s plenty of options to help survivability right now.
You can’t stack 3 dmg sets with arcane traits and 20k health and expect to be in the fight tho. You need to push to 25k health at least. More the better. Don’t fire the bow proc at kids you can kill like mud crabs. Realize you are squishier as you enter the fight... get some merciless stacks from range as you enter.
Lingering health pots. Tri pots, detect pots... you need them all. You also need to learn how to switch in combat.
If you stack all the possible hots mnb has...
Dark Cloak+Path+Siphoning+swallow soul- you can potentially average 2500-2700 per second. Stack another 1000 health recovery on this... stack lingering pots when your are in bad situations...
Then add in all the mitigation. And a 8k Harness over the top.
Your response is totally a "what if..." Because if you actually play like that, you will not kill anyone and eventually everyone will kill you...
Trust me you can kill just fine by using the built in defenses of the class out of stealth. I don’t stack ALL of those and I get by just fine outnumbered.
I wasn’t saying stack all of the possibles together... I could have explained that better. More of an outline of different ways to help survive.
Again... it’s not a tank and spank class, you have to use mobility to stay alive in certain scenarios. But you can def brawl on mnb if you use even half of what I outlined.
Maybe on console. Not happening on PC...
Class must dead over there.
Sorry to sound Elitist but there's stuff on console that's no way would work on PC and vice versa hahahaha.
I mostly notice this with the PvP pace, console PvP is slower, people have more "time to react". I have no idea if some players are using macros on PC but I've been hitted by entire combos in the exact same second (maybe is server lag, animation canceling, delayed register, etc).
So the playstyle you are describing, no way it would save you on PC, the burst here is just too much. Why do you think people have been crying to get a burst heal for MagNB, because hots are not a reliable source of healing to keep you alive in PvP.
That's why I said, if you play like that, you won't be able to kill anyone and eventually people will burst you down (at least on PC). I consider myself pretty fast with my dmg burst but I've meet people that are easily twice as fast. And right now the fastest burst come from MagSorcs.
That's the whole reason why Caluurion + Zaan works, because when everything procs at once, the opponent doesn't have time to react and keep up with all the incoming damage. By the time people break the initial cc, Zaan is already working its way through execute range...
By your logic hots would be stronger than a burst heal due to lack of time to react... if you’re getting blown up in a single GCD... there’s nothing a burst heal could do to help you. Hots gotta be up near 100% of the time.
I’ve never played console, but I’m PC-NA. I’ll occasionally see a magblade but it’s very rare, saw some immediately after Els but less these days.
Most magblades fall into the glass canon trap. By that I mean the thinking goes like this:
1. People are tanky, so I need to increase my damage to kill anyone
2. I’ll sacrifice defense to increase my damage
Then they’re so glass canon they’re unhealable and die in seconds if attacked. So go more glass canon and build with proc sets for pure ganking.
I’m not 100% sure, but I think I’m the only higher MMR magblade on PC-NA? When I do occasionally see other magblades they get wrecked. I’ll only do maybe 1-10 BGs per day so there might be more but I don’t see them. Usually when I do I’ll have just as many kills and damage as them as a healer.
It’s the thinking that the only way to kill anyone in pvp as a magblade is in less then 3 GCDs as a full glass canon which leads to all the ‘you can’t kill anyone with that spec’, etc’... comes from. Unfortunately the glass canon strategy just doesn’t work against experienced players so most magblades get wrecked.
The other classes (specifically Templars and Wardens) can heal themselves and other players from execute to 100% with the push of a key. MagBlade can't do that, our option is trying to outdps them with pressure and at the same time we heal ourselves.
Remember the concept of MagBlade is "the more dmg you do, the most healing you get" (swallow soul, merciless resolve and siphoning attacks). The problem with this playstyle is that is super unreliable and if you focus on having more raw defense, you will not kill anyone. Our defense supposed to be our "tricks", stealth, shadow, fear and positioning...
And neither of those classes (nor DK) have a mobility skill anywhere close to Shade.
I never use shade outside of dueling. It's super unreliable... Streak does the same but 100% better.
Imo shade should not have a timer. When you cast it, that's it, the shade should stay there forever until you teleport to it or until you recast it in another place outside of the teleport range. But the timer is so unreliable, I loss the count of how many times my shade have expired the second before I was actually going to use it...
Gimping yourself tbh. Take some time and practice shade usage. *** ain’t streak easy and yes it can be unreliable but it’s saved me plenty more times than it hasn’t.
I mostly do dueling or BGs. Shade is super useful in dueling, but kinda useless in BGs... For BGs I use Mist Form. And I imagine is somehow useful for setting ganks in Cyrodill and solo play. But still a really unreliable skill like most of the MagNB kit. MagNB is mostly a hit or miss with our skill set.. Sometimes everything works great, sometimes nothing go as planned...
I’m primarily speaking of open world solo mnb to put it in perspective.
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I see this said all the time, but I actually think pve changes effect pvp about 10 times for every time it goes the other way.
Besides, for guilds that try to really min-max they’re only going to bring one of every class, then load up on the best dps class with all their other slots. With stamblade being the other Nightblade variant there’s little chance magblades will be used. Plus everyone has alts so can change classes they play on a dime.
In non-score guilds bringing a good player is enough. I’d argue pve hardly matters for magblades.
That plus the whole ‘My class is 50 dps less then another class so useless’ gets tiring to read. End of the day if you find magblade fun play it, if you want to be super leetz dps in score trial guilds be prepared and have alts of multiple classes, class balance is always evolving and one class can go from hero to zero fast.Edited by Iskiab on June 21, 2019 2:19PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
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Plz share right builds or are they a secret?
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✭✭OK just gonna be real honest here, yes I do believe Magblade needs a buff but I am so glad that there aren't many of them around. Cloak spam is one of the most frustrating things in this game to deal with and even though there is a few counters (such as detect pots and AOE abilities) the ease of which a Magblade can completely disengage from a fight and appear a few seconds fully buffed is insane. I know from playing a Magblade for a while that it is possible to troll and annoy people so much with this class lol.0 -
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Come on nothing beats pet mag sorcs they end.Illuvatarr wrote: »Magblade actually strongest mag class if built right.
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I have been playing stamblade since eso release on console back in 2015 it is the only class I play check my YouTube channel out stamblade more then capable for brawler build. I play magblade on and of I’m not terrible at it but I feel much stronger on stamblade. This is exactly why I want magblade to get buffs not to be op just to get better healing and rework concealed. Class like mag sorcs magplar are way more appealing better heals amazing damage this is why you see them everywhere and very few magblades.Deathlord92 wrote: »
This is exactly my point. I love in your face aggressive play concealed weapon with shadow disguise just makes sense but I’m not the kind player that runs or zergs I like 1v1 and 1vx I like standing my ground.Deathlord92 wrote: »
What if you prefer melee up close in your face. If they didn’t intend for melee magblade why does concealed weapon even exist. They should at least add a heal on concealed weapon. Stamblade has vigor I love both specs and only play magblade and stamblade. When I compare the two stamblade a lot easier to play and from what I’m seeing so are the other classes especially mag sorc.Deathlord92 wrote: »
Melee not so much. If you play solo in cyrodiil magblade has a very hard time especially if you get low on health there’s just no oh sht button that’s what we need. As for heals on concealed weapon this skill would help uptime on our major resolve also improving our survivability just like stamblade surprise attack.I’m not sure I care for any “buffs” at this point. The class is playing great right now.
Dark cloak.
I play melee range basically. 1k health gen static, troll king, Harness, dark cloak. And shade for “oh ***”. You can play up close. When you add in all the mitigation available... plus rat for mobility... the class is doing fine imho.
If you are a cloak blade... I can’t imagine Zos giving any additional heals. Heals or cloak is a fair trade.
Magsorc a braindead experience. Not really comparable.
Magblade is harder then most specs. Working for the bow proc and getting clean kills is absolutely more work than other classes... that said I don’t think it’s in a bad place.
Melee mnb with concealed does have an argument. It synergizes well with cloak but then puts you in a bad position without a strong hot like on dark cloak. I’m not sure how to remedy that at this point. Add a hot to it coming out of cloak?
It does create a conundrum... I don’t see much point in using it other then semantics of saying “well I’m melee” - swallow soul can be cast directly on top as a melee ability as well. The stun from sneak is nice but fear>>>>>>>>>concealed stun.
But really that is preference. You have an argument but it’s probably not one that Zos is going to do anything about.
Ps. I have seen an uptick in mnbs on Xbox na
If you want to be on someone's face, you should play a DK not a NB... NB is more about strategic killing... You can try been a brawler but at the end of the day, DKs will still be brawling better...
OH!!!! you are a console player, that's explain it all... Of course you wont see MagBlades on console hahahaha. Cant imagine the nightmare of weaving and proccing Spectral Bow using a controller hahahaha In general MagBlade must be a nightmare to play on consoles hahaha
There are plenty on xbox na. Hoppy little shield stacking turds weaving snares, light attacks and 10k+ bows on people with over 30k resists and full impen.Zaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
Soul Razor- Altmer Magsorc
Les Drago- Redguard Stamdk
Eirius- Altmer Magdk
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✭OK just gonna be real honest here, yes I do believe Magblade needs a buff but I am so glad that there aren't many of them around. Cloak spam is one of the most frustrating things in this game to deal with and even though there is a few counters (such as detect pots and AOE abilities) the ease of which a Magblade can completely disengage from a fight and appear a few seconds fully buffed is insane. I know from playing a Magblade for a while that it is possible to troll and annoy people so much with this class lol.
Detect potsusmguy1234 wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »
I have been playing stamblade since eso release on console back in 2015 it is the only class I play check my YouTube channel out stamblade more then capable for brawler build. I play magblade on and of I’m not terrible at it but I feel much stronger on stamblade. This is exactly why I want magblade to get buffs not to be op just to get better healing and rework concealed. Class like mag sorcs magplar are way more appealing better heals amazing damage this is why you see them everywhere and very few magblades.Deathlord92 wrote: »
This is exactly my point. I love in your face aggressive play concealed weapon with shadow disguise just makes sense but I’m not the kind player that runs or zergs I like 1v1 and 1vx I like standing my ground.Deathlord92 wrote: »
What if you prefer melee up close in your face. If they didn’t intend for melee magblade why does concealed weapon even exist. They should at least add a heal on concealed weapon. Stamblade has vigor I love both specs and only play magblade and stamblade. When I compare the two stamblade a lot easier to play and from what I’m seeing so are the other classes especially mag sorc.Deathlord92 wrote: »
Melee not so much. If you play solo in cyrodiil magblade has a very hard time especially if you get low on health there’s just no oh sht button that’s what we need. As for heals on concealed weapon this skill would help uptime on our major resolve also improving our survivability just like stamblade surprise attack.I’m not sure I care for any “buffs” at this point. The class is playing great right now.
Dark cloak.
I play melee range basically. 1k health gen static, troll king, Harness, dark cloak. And shade for “oh ***”. You can play up close. When you add in all the mitigation available... plus rat for mobility... the class is doing fine imho.
If you are a cloak blade... I can’t imagine Zos giving any additional heals. Heals or cloak is a fair trade.
Magsorc a braindead experience. Not really comparable.
Magblade is harder then most specs. Working for the bow proc and getting clean kills is absolutely more work than other classes... that said I don’t think it’s in a bad place.
Melee mnb with concealed does have an argument. It synergizes well with cloak but then puts you in a bad position without a strong hot like on dark cloak. I’m not sure how to remedy that at this point. Add a hot to it coming out of cloak?
It does create a conundrum... I don’t see much point in using it other then semantics of saying “well I’m melee” - swallow soul can be cast directly on top as a melee ability as well. The stun from sneak is nice but fear>>>>>>>>>concealed stun.
But really that is preference. You have an argument but it’s probably not one that Zos is going to do anything about.
Ps. I have seen an uptick in mnbs on Xbox na
If you want to be on someone's face, you should play a DK not a NB... NB is more about strategic killing... You can try been a brawler but at the end of the day, DKs will still be brawling better...
OH!!!! you are a console player, that's explain it all... Of course you wont see MagBlades on console hahahaha. Cant imagine the nightmare of weaving and proccing Spectral Bow using a controller hahahaha In general MagBlade must be a nightmare to play on consoles hahaha
There are plenty on xbox na. Hoppy little shield stacking turds weaving snares, light attacks and 10k+ bows on people with over 30k resists and full impen.
Thats a nice magsorc you got over there... would hate if something happened to it
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✭OK just gonna be real honest here, yes I do believe Magblade needs a buff but I am so glad that there aren't many of them around. Cloak spam is one of the most frustrating things in this game to deal with and even though there is a few counters (such as detect pots and AOE abilities) the ease of which a Magblade can completely disengage from a fight and appear a few seconds fully buffed is insane. I know from playing a Magblade for a while that it is possible to troll and annoy people so much with this class lol.
Detect potsusmguy1234 wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »
I have been playing stamblade since eso release on console back in 2015 it is the only class I play check my YouTube channel out stamblade more then capable for brawler build. I play magblade on and of I’m not terrible at it but I feel much stronger on stamblade. This is exactly why I want magblade to get buffs not to be op just to get better healing and rework concealed. Class like mag sorcs magplar are way more appealing better heals amazing damage this is why you see them everywhere and very few magblades.Deathlord92 wrote: »
This is exactly my point. I love in your face aggressive play concealed weapon with shadow disguise just makes sense but I’m not the kind player that runs or zergs I like 1v1 and 1vx I like standing my ground.Deathlord92 wrote: »
What if you prefer melee up close in your face. If they didn’t intend for melee magblade why does concealed weapon even exist. They should at least add a heal on concealed weapon. Stamblade has vigor I love both specs and only play magblade and stamblade. When I compare the two stamblade a lot easier to play and from what I’m seeing so are the other classes especially mag sorc.Deathlord92 wrote: »
Melee not so much. If you play solo in cyrodiil magblade has a very hard time especially if you get low on health there’s just no oh sht button that’s what we need. As for heals on concealed weapon this skill would help uptime on our major resolve also improving our survivability just like stamblade surprise attack.I’m not sure I care for any “buffs” at this point. The class is playing great right now.
Dark cloak.
I play melee range basically. 1k health gen static, troll king, Harness, dark cloak. And shade for “oh ***”. You can play up close. When you add in all the mitigation available... plus rat for mobility... the class is doing fine imho.
If you are a cloak blade... I can’t imagine Zos giving any additional heals. Heals or cloak is a fair trade.
Magsorc a braindead experience. Not really comparable.
Magblade is harder then most specs. Working for the bow proc and getting clean kills is absolutely more work than other classes... that said I don’t think it’s in a bad place.
Melee mnb with concealed does have an argument. It synergizes well with cloak but then puts you in a bad position without a strong hot like on dark cloak. I’m not sure how to remedy that at this point. Add a hot to it coming out of cloak?
It does create a conundrum... I don’t see much point in using it other then semantics of saying “well I’m melee” - swallow soul can be cast directly on top as a melee ability as well. The stun from sneak is nice but fear>>>>>>>>>concealed stun.
But really that is preference. You have an argument but it’s probably not one that Zos is going to do anything about.
Ps. I have seen an uptick in mnbs on Xbox na
If you want to be on someone's face, you should play a DK not a NB... NB is more about strategic killing... You can try been a brawler but at the end of the day, DKs will still be brawling better...
OH!!!! you are a console player, that's explain it all... Of course you wont see MagBlades on console hahahaha. Cant imagine the nightmare of weaving and proccing Spectral Bow using a controller hahahaha In general MagBlade must be a nightmare to play on consoles hahaha
There are plenty on xbox na. Hoppy little shield stacking turds weaving snares, light attacks and 10k+ bows on people with over 30k resists and full impen.
Thats a nice magsorc you got over there... would hate if something happened to it
(The population has grown this patch considering how bad of a place they were the last couple)
Couldn't attest to how sorc does against them since I've only played mine a couple of weeks since summerset. My poor stamplar on the other hand is a different story.Zaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
Soul Razor- Altmer Magsorc
Les Drago- Redguard Stamdk
Eirius- Altmer Magdk
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PvE trials not as much I’ve found because the class is so dependent on a perfect weaving or your dps takes a huge hit, but pvp and for casual players it’s a great class.Edited by Iskiab on June 28, 2019 12:27AMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
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PvE trials not as much I’ve found because the class is so dependent on a perfect weaving or your dps takes a huge hit, but pvp and for casual players it’s a great class.
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that is your angle
From my point of view, the devs should make separate abilities for pvp, so other players should not be impacted by the whining of pvpers. I dislike how they changed the spectral bow. They made it slow, so it can be telegraphed enough in pvp to dodge it, because pvp players complained they could not dodge it, and somehow everything should be dodge-able/avoidable, right, because people who complain on the forums about pvp hate to lose. Also, we lost dmg to get protection... probably to compensate the other tanky builds people play in BGs. But this is not in line with the class, what it should be, these nerfs are just bandaids over an inconsistent class that feels totally different from years ago (I play a nightblade since december 2014)
People who play pve and trials complain far less, they adapt, practice and overcome imbalances. Same like in vMA... you adapt, you try different builds, until you master it, because whining on the forums will not result in a vMA nerf. But the pvp community is far more vocal than others... and by that I do not mean only pve. Housing, crafting, RP and so on.Edited by kind_hero on June 28, 2019 7:59AM[PC/EU] Tamriel Hero, Stormproof, Grand Master Crafter0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Deathlord92 wrote: »I want to see more magblades around. I also want melee magblade to be strong. I want better healing since we have a siphoning tree our heals should be much stronger. Perhaps give us hot from concealed weapon little like magplar jabs and make one of malevolent offering morphs a strong self heal.
I do believe those siphoning spells could use a buff.
But to me, the most aggravating thing about Nightblades is their best heal comes at too high a cost. Having to give up your invisibility (which is what makes the class fun) is a sacrifice I'm just not willing to make.
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I just want concealed weapon most of all to be reworked it’s useless most magblade will use dark cloak. And I don’t like relying on healing ward to stay alive it’s alright most of the time because I play solo but if I get into a fight near friendly player there’s a 50% chance I won’t get the healing ward and that is no good.As a magblade main I have no comment on this.
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I just want concealed weapon most of all to be reworked it’s useless most magblade will use dark cloak. And I don’t like relying on healing ward to stay alive it’s alright most of the time because I play solo but if I get into a fight near friendly player there’s a 50% chance I won’t get the healing ward and that is no good.As a magblade main I have no comment on this.
It's good for the speed buff.
I tried healing ward and thought it sucked. Way too expensive for mediocre results. I thought the vampire drain did a better job at keeping me alive.Edited by Jeremy on June 28, 2019 8:22AM2 -
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Believe me if we magblades had a magic version of vigor I’d use shadow disguise and drop shields all together then concealed weapon wouldn’t be so bad. But only reliable self heal we got dark cloak so unfortunately that kind makes concealed weapon useless especially for brawler blades.Deathlord92 wrote: »
I just want concealed weapon most of all to be reworked it’s useless most magblade will use dark cloak. And I don’t like relying on healing ward to stay alive it’s alright most of the time because I play solo but if I get into a fight near friendly player there’s a 50% chance I won’t get the healing ward and that is no good.As a magblade main I have no comment on this.
It's good for the speed buff.
I tried healing ward and thought it sucked. Way too expensive for mediocre results. I thought the vampire drain did a better job at keeping me alive.
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Also with that speed boost from RAT we don’t need it from concealed weapon it be a lot better if concealed weapon gave us a heal of sorts.Deathlord92 wrote: »
I just want concealed weapon most of all to be reworked it’s useless most magblade will use dark cloak. And I don’t like relying on healing ward to stay alive it’s alright most of the time because I play solo but if I get into a fight near friendly player there’s a 50% chance I won’t get the healing ward and that is no good.As a magblade main I have no comment on this.
It's good for the speed buff.
I tried healing ward and thought it sucked. Way too expensive for mediocre results. I thought the vampire drain did a better job at keeping me alive.
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