Buff magblade

ScruffyWhiskers

I've said it before but make concealed go through dodge roll like it used to when it was "bugged" and you will have put melee magblade a step closer to stam nb. There will still be a big disparity but it will be a big improvement.

SidraWillowsky

Saril_Durzam wrote: »

Buff? after this patch, magblade will be best magicka DPS class but maybe, just maybe, necro.

Ok, it´s still far from Stamina builds, but just checking other magicka classes, the situation isn´t bad. And considering Nightbalde is a true Stamina class, ...

After testing the magblade in the PTS.... LMAO at this. It is currently at the very bottom, miles behind stam classes and well below all other mag classes.

Deathlord92

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Saril_Durzam wrote: »

Buff? after this patch, magblade will be best magicka DPS class but maybe, just maybe, necro.

Ok, it´s still far from Stamina builds, but just checking other magicka classes, the situation isn´t bad. And considering Nightbalde is a true Stamina class, ...

After testing the magblade in the PTS.... LMAO at this. It is currently at the very bottom, miles behind stam classes and well below all other mag classes.

It sounds like we need a buff badly especially since magblade seems to always be at the bottom pvp mostly I know pve magblade was king for a long time.

Savos_Saren

Stam now has access to an AOE fear (Turn Evil), group heal (Ring of Preservation), stronger self heals (Resolving Vigor), more shields (Defensive Posture) and an AOE Major Fracture (Caltrops) that is better than the light armor passive, Concentration.

All the while- stam can also use One Hand and Shield for defense while receiving a weapon damage bonus (Sword and Board passive: 5% weapon damage). Yet, magic users don't get any form of extra spell damage increase from using Sword and Board or Ice Staff.


Wow... balance.

MartiniDaniels

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Saril_Durzam wrote: »

Buff? after this patch, magblade will be best magicka DPS class but maybe, just maybe, necro.

Ok, it´s still far from Stamina builds, but just checking other magicka classes, the situation isn´t bad. And considering Nightbalde is a true Stamina class, ...

After testing the magblade in the PTS.... LMAO at this. It is currently at the very bottom, miles behind stam classes and well below all other mag classes.

Other classes were buffed so much by combination of ST dots and passive? I basically just did +5k dps (on trial dummy) from second try by replacing shade for enthropy, eleweapon for swallow soul (sort of spammable+shield via insane healing when spamming it) and shield for soul trap.

Iskiab

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Saril_Durzam wrote: »

Buff? after this patch, magblade will be best magicka DPS class but maybe, just maybe, necro.

Ok, it´s still far from Stamina builds, but just checking other magicka classes, the situation isn´t bad. And considering Nightbalde is a true Stamina class, ...

After testing the magblade in the PTS.... LMAO at this. It is currently at the very bottom, miles behind stam classes and well below all other mag classes.

Other classes were buffed so much by combination of ST dots and passive? I basically just did +5k dps (on trial dummy) from second try by replacing shade for enthropy, eleweapon for swallow soul (sort of spammable+shield via insane healing when spamming it) and shield for soul trap.

Insane healing from spamming Swallow Soul? Every cast replaces the existing hot with a new hot based on your damage. The best way to get ‘decent’ healing from it is to wait for a crit and don’t cast it while the hot’s up. This is the first time I’ve heard the phrase ‘insane healing’ and swallow soul uttered in the same sentence since I started playing.

MartiniDaniels

Iskiab wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Saril_Durzam wrote: »

Buff? after this patch, magblade will be best magicka DPS class but maybe, just maybe, necro.

Ok, it´s still far from Stamina builds, but just checking other magicka classes, the situation isn´t bad. And considering Nightbalde is a true Stamina class, ...

After testing the magblade in the PTS.... LMAO at this. It is currently at the very bottom, miles behind stam classes and well below all other mag classes.

Other classes were buffed so much by combination of ST dots and passive? I basically just did +5k dps (on trial dummy) from second try by replacing shade for enthropy, eleweapon for swallow soul (sort of spammable+shield via insane healing when spamming it) and shield for soul trap.

Insane healing from spamming Swallow Soul? Every cast replaces the existing hot with a new hot based on your damage. The best way to get ‘decent’ healing from it is to wait for a crit and don’t cast it while the hot’s up. This is the first time I’ve heard the phrase ‘insane healing’ and swallow soul uttered in the same sentence since I started playing.

I'm talking about PVE where buffed swallow soul hits for 20k+.
Basic heal ticks in 2 seconds intervals. So if you block cast it every GCD heal obviously doubles and reaches size of harness magicka. There are situations where you still need shield for reliable survival, but in majority of cases you may just drop it and slot dot. Before this patch there was no decent dot and eleweapon+shield was generally better. Well there were shade and lotus fan, but it's not so great skills when we talk about real ranged dd conditions.

Now I tried setup with resolve+impale+swallow soul+5 dots+lightweight trap and hit +5k dps standing in 15 meters away from dummy, no cheese. Probably ST dps of other mag classes increased too and they will still outperform magblade by 3-4k dummy dps, but I don't see any "direct nerf" to PVE magblade.

And in U24 ZOS plans to re-evaluate passives, so jumping on new theoretical BiS like magcro which could then be nerfed just when you finished all the psijics/magicks/undaunted and get used to rotation sounds like a bad idea. I just finished building my magplar and next day there was a "leak" lol. I won't buy it second time until they finish their re-balances. If somehow both magblade and magplar end up complete trash in U23.. idk, probably I will take a rest from dpsing in raids for few months.

Joosef_Kivikilpi

Deathlord92 wrote: »

I want to see more magblades around. I also want melee magblade to be strong. I want better healing since we have a siphoning tree our heals should be much stronger. Perhaps give us hot from concealed weapon little like magplar jabs and make one of malevolent offering morphs a strong self heal.

Bro, we can't have that. We can't have a single Target damage spam ability that does more damage than a Templar spammable 1second channel aoe, 40% total damage done heal, 70% 2 second snare, activating Minor Protection (which is also now getting a cost reduction in PTS for even better spam sustain). We are lesser beings than the All Mighty Templar. You must just deal with being less and insignificant and accept your fate, crying in the shadows. /s kidding!...not kidding.

Joosef_Kivikilpi

Insco851 wrote: »

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

I’m not sure I care for any “buffs” at this point. The class is playing great right now.

Melee not so much. If you play solo in cyrodiil magblade has a very hard time especially if you get low on health there’s just no oh sht button that’s what we need. As for heals on concealed weapon this skill would help uptime on our major resolve also improving our survivability just like stamblade surprise attack.

Dark cloak.

I play melee range basically. 1k health gen static, troll king, Harness, dark cloak. And shade for “oh ***”. You can play up close. When you add in all the mitigation available... plus rat for mobility... the class is doing fine imho.

If you are a cloak blade... I can’t imagine Zos giving any additional heals. Heals or cloak is a fair trade.

What if you prefer melee up close in your face. If they didn’t intend for melee magblade why does concealed weapon even exist. They should at least add a heal on concealed weapon. Stamblade has vigor I love both specs and only play magblade and stamblade. When I compare the two stamblade a lot easier to play and from what I’m seeing so are the other classes especially mag sorc.

Magsorc a braindead experience. Not really comparable.

Magblade is harder then most specs. Working for the bow proc and getting clean kills is absolutely more work than other classes... that said I don’t think it’s in a bad place.

Melee mnb with concealed does have an argument. It synergizes well with cloak but then puts you in a bad position without a strong hot like on dark cloak. I’m not sure how to remedy that at this point. Add a hot to it coming out of cloak?

It does create a conundrum... I don’t see much point in using it other then semantics of saying “well I’m melee” - swallow soul can be cast directly on top as a melee ability as well. The stun from sneak is nice but fear>>>>>>>>>concealed stun.

But really that is preference. You have an argument but it’s probably not one that Zos is going to do anything about.

Ps. I have seen an uptick in mnbs on Xbox na

That uptick is only because I keep pressing people with my Mageblade killing panzy Emperors and their possy with my Mageblade guild, thus making a bunch of scrubs reroll thinking Mageblades are the way button before getting spanked.

So much effort for such little payback now on skill.

GhostofDatthaw

With all the dot tool tips heavy armor dot with skoria might be dope

Iskiab

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

With all the dot tool tips heavy armor dot with skoria might be dope

Nah, you miss out on too much crit and pen, heavy armour doesn’t work well on magblade.

Weird question: has anyone ever tried 5 medium as a magblade? Shuffle looks so damn OP, why not right? Mag crit will take a dump, but there are some good medium mag sets, go full sp.

MartiniDaniels

Iskiab wrote: »

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

With all the dot tool tips heavy armor dot with skoria might be dope

Nah, you miss out on too much crit and pen, heavy armour doesn’t work well on magblade.

Weird question: has anyone ever tried 5 medium as a magblade? Shuffle looks so damn OP, why not right? Mag crit will take a dump, but there are some good medium mag sets, go full sp.

Maybe hybrid with 2H and new double penetration? Question is if there is anything good left in magicka class morphs to make hybrid worthwhile

GhostofDatthaw

Iskiab wrote: »

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

With all the dot tool tips heavy armor dot with skoria might be dope

Nah, you miss out on too much crit and pen, heavy armour doesn’t work well on magblade.

Weird question: has anyone ever tried 5 medium as a magblade? Shuffle looks so damn OP, why not right? Mag crit will take a dump, but there are some good medium mag sets, go full sp.

Heavy magnb hasn't always been weak. Plus with shadow cloak you can proc crits. Not that that helps you in a dot build at all. The heavy on something like my lizard wizard would lead to some beefy hots to be able to let the dots work. It might work better on a kite style build but it's always worth a test.

Iskiab

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

With all the dot tool tips heavy armor dot with skoria might be dope

Nah, you miss out on too much crit and pen, heavy armour doesn’t work well on magblade.

Weird question: has anyone ever tried 5 medium as a magblade? Shuffle looks so damn OP, why not right? Mag crit will take a dump, but there are some good medium mag sets, go full sp.

Maybe hybrid with 2H and new double penetration? Question is if there is anything good left in magicka class morphs to make hybrid worthwhile

Oh good idea. I was totally thinking of trying a 2h onslaught magblade build. I mean, why even slot a destro staff? Is reach even worth it?

2h (sword) - resto

Shuffle - merciless - mass Hysteria - Soul skill line ability (forgot name) - Swallow Soul - onslaught

Dark cloak - Rapid Regen - Ward Ally - entropy - shade - Soul Siphon

5m - 2L
Undaunted Infiltrator - BT - Blood Spawn/Pirate smelly. Something like that, I’d have to play with it.

thankyourat

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

With all the dot tool tips heavy armor dot with skoria might be dope

Nah, you miss out on too much crit and pen, heavy armour doesn’t work well on magblade.

Weird question: has anyone ever tried 5 medium as a magblade? Shuffle looks so damn OP, why not right? Mag crit will take a dump, but there are some good medium mag sets, go full sp.

Heavy magnb hasn't always been weak. Plus with shadow cloak you can proc crits. Not that that helps you in a dot build at all. The heavy on something like my lizard wizard would lead to some beefy hots to be able to let the dots work. It might work better on a kite style build but it's always worth a test.

I think it will work next update. The good thing about magblade is the lost of pen and crit doesn’t really effect them as much as other classes because their damage is so high. My heavy armor magblade had a 25k+ merciless tooltip and a 19k soul harvest. So even though it was missing a little pen I still had access to breach and my crit was still almost 50%. I was still routinely hitting 13k bow procs even in heavy. The only reason I stopped playing it was because magsorc and harness Magicka became the meta and harness was such a disadvantage against other magbuilds if one was using it and the other wasn’t. Harness is being nerfed finally though

I think a heavy armor dot build will be a good choice for magblade next patch. If you get your damage high enough with access to defile and 20% damage increase those dots will really hurt. It’s very easy to add crit and pen into your build with cp and item sets it’s just going to require a little more theory crafting. Overall it may not be BiS but it should be a fun and viable alternative to the standard Magicka stacking magblade. I think even melee magblade will be fun next patch with the nerf against heavy armor stam brawler builds (melee magblades biggest weakness) and the buff to rapid regen. Overall the class may be in a better spot next patch because of the meta shifts. Even though the class will still need some work.

Anti_Virus

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

Main problem witg magblade is we are royally screwed when we use melee weapons. Elemental staffs just don't make sense for the nb theme. Allow duel wield and snb maybe 2h dmg be based on highest stat.

This

Deathlord92

thankyourat wrote: »

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

With all the dot tool tips heavy armor dot with skoria might be dope

Nah, you miss out on too much crit and pen, heavy armour doesn’t work well on magblade.

Weird question: has anyone ever tried 5 medium as a magblade? Shuffle looks so damn OP, why not right? Mag crit will take a dump, but there are some good medium mag sets, go full sp.

Heavy magnb hasn't always been weak. Plus with shadow cloak you can proc crits. Not that that helps you in a dot build at all. The heavy on something like my lizard wizard would lead to some beefy hots to be able to let the dots work. It might work better on a kite style build but it's always worth a test.

I think it will work next update. The good thing about magblade is the lost of pen and crit doesn’t really effect them as much as other classes because their damage is so high. My heavy armor magblade had a 25k+ merciless tooltip and a 19k soul harvest. So even though it was missing a little pen I still had access to breach and my crit was still almost 50%. I was still routinely hitting 13k bow procs even in heavy. The only reason I stopped playing it was because magsorc and harness Magicka became the meta and harness was such a disadvantage against other magbuilds if one was using it and the other wasn’t. Harness is being nerfed finally though

I think a heavy armor dot build will be a good choice for magblade next patch. If you get your damage high enough with access to defile and 20% damage increase those dots will really hurt. It’s very easy to add crit and pen into your build with cp and item sets it’s just going to require a little more theory crafting. Overall it may not be BiS but it should be a fun and viable alternative to the standard Magicka stacking magblade. I think even melee magblade will be fun next patch with the nerf against heavy armor stam brawler builds (melee magblades biggest weakness) and the buff to rapid regen. Overall the class may be in a better spot next patch because of the meta shifts. Even though the class will still need some work.

I hope your right as I prefer melee magblade to range. And rapid regen could be amazing and open up a few options for build variety if it always goes on the caster if it’s another healing ward where it ends up on someone near to u rip 😒

ScruffyWhiskers

thankyourat wrote: »

The only reason I stopped playing it was because magsorc and harness Magicka became the meta and harness was such a disadvantage against other magbuilds if one was using it and the other wasn’t. Harness is being nerfed finally though

....... I think even melee magblade will be fun next patch with the nerf against heavy armor stam brawler builds (melee magblades biggest weakness) and the buff to rapid regen. Overall the class may be in a better spot next patch because of the meta shifts. Even though the class will still need some work.

Harness is kryptonite at this point and you stack hardened on top and forget it. Standing and fighting a good mag sorc is like fighting an agent in the Matrix.

Anti_Virus wrote: »

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

Main problem witg magblade is we are royally screwed when we use melee weapons. Elemental staffs just don't make sense for the nb theme. Allow duel wield and snb maybe 2h dmg be based on highest stat.

This

DOUBLE THIS +2

I don't understand the devs reluctance to allow light and heavy weapon attacks to scale from your highest attribute (mag or stam). That would really make a big difference and I would go back to dual swords.

Also

This 400ms cast time on soul harvest is going to really be awful.

Iskiab

I never understood why most magblades never got into using harness. It’s great on live, especially with dark cloak.

If you go melee there’s zero reason I see not to use onslaught. Yea your light attacks take a hit but you can try to build stacks on your back bar and jump into melee with onslaught to finish people off.

The pen will equate to a larger damage buff then soul harvest could provide, plus it’s aoe so you don’t have to worry about a missed target and hitting a pet. Onslaught plus 5x light and sharpened and you can get ridiculous pen numbers, 25k or something like that.

GhostofDatthaw

Iskiab wrote: »

I never understood why most magblades never got into using harness. It’s great on live, especially with dark cloak.

If you go melee there’s zero reason I see not to use onslaught. Yea your light attacks take a hit but you can try to build stacks on your back bar and jump into melee with onslaught to finish people off.

The pen will equate to a larger damage buff then soul harvest could provide, plus it’s aoe so you don’t have to worry about a missed target and hitting a pet. Onslaught plus 5x light and sharpened and you can get ridiculous pen numbers, 25k or something like that.

That's a similar play style to what I do now. It helps with that style now that lotus is buffed. Before it was cripple in to a cloaked concealed but now there is more build options

*edit on the harness subject. I don't like it because it's only viable vs like 1/3 of cyro. We're in a stam meta so I go with the bigger shield of dampen. Yeah the sustain is excellent versus mag but, you leave yourself with a smaller shield vs the stambois. Imo harness is a mag sorc morph.

ScruffyWhiskers

Iskiab wrote: »

I never understood why most magblades never got into using harness. It’s great on live, especially with dark cloak.

If you go melee there’s zero reason I see not to use onslaught. Yea your light attacks take a hit but you can try to build stacks on your back bar and jump into melee with onslaught to finish people off.

The pen will equate to a larger damage buff then soul harvest could provide, plus it’s aoe so you don’t have to worry about a missed target and hitting a pet. Onslaught plus 5x light and sharpened and you can get ridiculous pen numbers, 25k or something like that.

Since Onslaught is physical damage, isn't it going to be rather on the low side and not get any of the CP buffs? I used to use Incap last year when it had the zero threshold stun and noticed that the damage was always a good deal less than the soul harvest.

Iskiab

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

I never understood why most magblades never got into using harness. It’s great on live, especially with dark cloak.

If you go melee there’s zero reason I see not to use onslaught. Yea your light attacks take a hit but you can try to build stacks on your back bar and jump into melee with onslaught to finish people off.

The pen will equate to a larger damage buff then soul harvest could provide, plus it’s aoe so you don’t have to worry about a missed target and hitting a pet. Onslaught plus 5x light and sharpened and you can get ridiculous pen numbers, 25k or something like that.

That's a similar play style to what I do now. It helps with that style now that lotus is buffed. Before it was cripple in to a cloaked concealed but now there is more build options

Nice, what are you planning for your skill setup? My dps magblade is my alt so am not as familiar with how to setup.

Thinking...

Lotus - cripple - x - elemental weapon - x - onslaught

Rapid regen - shade - dark cloak - x - x - Soul Siphon

I’m not sure how to fit Soul Magic ability, entropy, RAT, Mass Hysteria... maybe shuffle or harness.

Dots look good on paper, but burst combos are usually 3 GCDs. If burst goes up post patch maybe I’m trying to add too many dots, I’m not sure.

kaithuzar

Joosef_Kivikilpi wrote: »

Deathlord92 wrote: »

I want to see more magblades around. I also want melee magblade to be strong. I want better healing since we have a siphoning tree our heals should be much stronger. Perhaps give us hot from concealed weapon little like magplar jabs and make one of malevolent offering morphs a strong self heal.

Bro, we can't have that. We can't have a single Target damage spam ability that does more damage than a Templar spammable 1second channel aoe, 40% total damage done heal, 70% 2 second snare, activating Minor Protection (which is also now getting a cost reduction in PTS for even better spam sustain). We are lesser beings than the All Mighty Templar. You must just deal with being less and insignificant and accept your fate, crying in the shadows. /s kidding!...not kidding.

Someone knows string substitution lol

kaithuzar

Iskiab wrote: »

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

With all the dot tool tips heavy armor dot with skoria might be dope

Nah, you miss out on too much crit and pen, heavy armour doesn’t work well on magblade.

Weird question: has anyone ever tried 5 medium as a magblade? Shuffle looks so damn OP, why not right? Mag crit will take a dump, but there are some good medium mag sets, go full sp.

Maybe hybrid with 2H and new double penetration? Question is if there is anything good left in magicka class morphs to make hybrid worthwhile

Oh good idea. I was totally thinking of trying a 2h onslaught magblade build. I mean, why even slot a destro staff? Is reach even worth it?

2h (sword) - resto

Shuffle - merciless - mass Hysteria - Soul skill line ability (forgot name) - Swallow Soul - onslaught

Dark cloak - Rapid Regen - Ward Ally - entropy - shade - Soul Siphon

5m - 2L
Undaunted Infiltrator - BT - Blood Spawn/Pirate smelly. Something like that, I’d have to play with it.

Im leveling onslaught right now in pvp & having a blast, it’s really fun to use!

kaithuzar

ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

I never understood why most magblades never got into using harness. It’s great on live, especially with dark cloak.

If you go melee there’s zero reason I see not to use onslaught. Yea your light attacks take a hit but you can try to build stacks on your back bar and jump into melee with onslaught to finish people off.

The pen will equate to a larger damage buff then soul harvest could provide, plus it’s aoe so you don’t have to worry about a missed target and hitting a pet. Onslaught plus 5x light and sharpened and you can get ridiculous pen numbers, 25k or something like that.

Since Onslaught is physical damage, isn't it going to be rather on the low side and not get any of the CP buffs? I used to use Incap last year when it had the zero threshold stun and noticed that the damage was always a good deal less than the soul harvest.

Right now on live, I have an I morphed level 1 berserker strike (onslaught), the tooltip is higher than my soul harvest....
Why would I worry about trying to heal debuff them if they just die instead?

kaithuzar

Iskiab wrote: »

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

I never understood why most magblades never got into using harness. It’s great on live, especially with dark cloak.

If you go melee there’s zero reason I see not to use onslaught. Yea your light attacks take a hit but you can try to build stacks on your back bar and jump into melee with onslaught to finish people off.

The pen will equate to a larger damage buff then soul harvest could provide, plus it’s aoe so you don’t have to worry about a missed target and hitting a pet. Onslaught plus 5x light and sharpened and you can get ridiculous pen numbers, 25k or something like that.

That's a similar play style to what I do now. It helps with that style now that lotus is buffed. Before it was cripple in to a cloaked concealed but now there is more build options

Nice, what are you planning for your skill setup? My dps magblade is my alt so am not as familiar with how to setup.

Thinking...

Lotus - cripple - x - elemental weapon - x - onslaught

Rapid regen - shade - dark cloak - x - x - Soul Siphon

I’m not sure how to fit Soul Magic ability, entropy, RAT, Mass Hysteria... maybe shuffle or harness.

Dots look good on paper, but burst combos are usually 3 GCDs. If burst goes up post patch maybe I’m trying to add too many dots, I’m not sure.

Fear front bar, rat backbar
As for entropy & soul trap, put the one with the bigger tooltip front bar.

ScruffyWhiskers

kaithuzar wrote: »

Right now on live, I have an I morphed level 1 berserker strike (onslaught), the tooltip is higher than my soul harvest....
Why would I worry about trying to heal debuff them if they just die instead?

Thanks! Good to know.

GhostofDatthaw

Iskiab wrote: »

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

I never understood why most magblades never got into using harness. It’s great on live, especially with dark cloak.

If you go melee there’s zero reason I see not to use onslaught. Yea your light attacks take a hit but you can try to build stacks on your back bar and jump into melee with onslaught to finish people off.

The pen will equate to a larger damage buff then soul harvest could provide, plus it’s aoe so you don’t have to worry about a missed target and hitting a pet. Onslaught plus 5x light and sharpened and you can get ridiculous pen numbers, 25k or something like that.

That's a similar play style to what I do now. It helps with that style now that lotus is buffed. Before it was cripple in to a cloaked concealed but now there is more build options

Nice, what are you planning for your skill setup? My dps magblade is my alt so am not as familiar with how to setup.

Thinking...

Lotus - cripple - x - elemental weapon - x - onslaught

Rapid regen - shade - dark cloak - x - x - Soul Siphon

I’m not sure how to fit Soul Magic ability, entropy, RAT, Mass Hysteria... maybe shuffle or harness.

Dots look good on paper, but burst combos are usually 3 GCDs. If burst goes up post patch maybe I’m trying to add too many dots, I’m not sure.

at the moment my bars are like this

Front bar: debilitate, Mercy, Shadow cloak, concealed, Lotus, Soul Harvest

Back bar: dampen Magic, rat, shade, swallow soul, mutagen, life-giver

I run around on back bar using shade and rat to build my Mercy proc. The thing this build doesn't really have is a reliable stun outside of stealth concealed. However if you're able to proc that Mercy bow after a Lotus from cloak they're dropping hard

as far as degeneration in all these new dots coming up I will have to do some serious soul-searching about our space

GhostofDatthaw

I know first thing next patch though I'm giving a heavy dot build a roll. Thinking brp destro with skoria, trans back bar and like heavy shackle or something. Dots for everyone. Or maybe even master inferno for the cc/dot spammable

Iskiab

GhostofDatthaw wrote: »

I know first thing next patch though I'm giving a heavy dot build a roll. Thinking brp destro with skoria, trans back bar and like heavy shackle or something. Dots for everyone. Or maybe even master inferno for the cc/dot spammable

I’m using the BRP destro now in pvp and like it, but I’m not sure if it’ll be good after the patch.

Every time someone with shuffle gets hit with an aoe they get major evasion. I’ve been using elemental ring like a spammable since I’m a healer/dps, so I’ll spam it on opposing groups first if I’m not healing, then follow up it up a lotus fan on whomever’s being focused.

I think I’ll have to switch up my play-style but at the same time I need something to knock NBs out of cloak, I’m not sure how to adapt.