Weird Fact: For Melee Magicka builds why i have to use staff?

Let Dual Wield skills scale with max stat/damage and penetration, also let passive grant bonus for Magicka

Dual wield skills can only make Magicka using Melee setup

Insco851 wrote: »

I’m not sure I care for any “buffs” at this point. The class is playing great right now.

Melee not so much. If you play solo in cyrodiil magblade has a very hard time especially if you get low on health there’s just no oh sht button that’s what we need. As for heals on concealed weapon this skill would help uptime on our major resolve also improving our survivability just like stamblade surprise attack.

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

What exactly *is* a melee setup for magblade? I assume one uses concealed weapon, but other than that I am unsure.

U need 1 spamable with light attack and rest dot and aoe

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

I’m not sure I care for any “buffs” at this point. The class is playing great right now.

Melee not so much. If you play solo in cyrodiil magblade has a very hard time especially if you get low on health there’s just no oh sht button that’s what we need. As for heals on concealed weapon this skill would help uptime on our major resolve also improving our survivability just like stamblade surprise attack.

Dark cloak.

I play melee range basically. 1k health gen static, troll king, Harness, dark cloak. And shade for “oh ***”. You can play up close. When you add in all the mitigation available... plus rat for mobility... the class is doing fine imho.

If you are a cloak blade... I can’t imagine Zos giving any additional heals. Heals or cloak is a fair trade.

Insco851 wrote: »

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

I’m not sure I care for any “buffs” at this point. The class is playing great right now.

Melee not so much. If you play solo in cyrodiil magblade has a very hard time especially if you get low on health there’s just no oh sht button that’s what we need. As for heals on concealed weapon this skill would help uptime on our major resolve also improving our survivability just like stamblade surprise attack.

Dark cloak.

I play melee range basically. 1k health gen static, troll king, Harness, dark cloak. And shade for “oh ***”. You can play up close. When you add in all the mitigation available... plus rat for mobility... the class is doing fine imho.

If you are a cloak blade... I can’t imagine Zos giving any additional heals. Heals or cloak is a fair trade.

What if you prefer melee up close in your face. If they didn’t intend for melee magblade why does concealed weapon even exist. They should at least add a heal on concealed weapon. Stamblade has vigor I love both specs and only play magblade and stamblade. When I compare the two stamblade a lot easier to play and from what I’m seeing so are the other classes especially mag sorc.

Iskiab wrote: »

I do agree concealed needs something for if you use dark cloak. All the bonus’ of the ability work with disguise, without shadowy disguise it’s just a weak spammable.

Have the people who think magblade is doing really great played a MagWarden? I’m curious, since since they have minor protection as well, better self healing, can absorb projectiles and better ranged dps.

For melee magblade there’s concealed weapon, lotus fan and soul harvest the ultimate.

I mained a magwarden before the mnb. That class is def fun for group play. You can 1vX potatoes. During the swift meta I could hit and run in IC verse huge groups. Crap ton of utility but requires heavy buff rotations.

Mnb is still better solo. Especially in this patch. Better mobility verse X due to shade. And cleaner kill potential. Not as tanky but imo- much funner to play.

Edit: also want to add this... magwarden has bad mobility in comparison. 6 second major expedition doesn’t save you from dmg like shade can. (Or cloak) So you need more bursty heals to survive being Xv1’d.

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

I’m not sure I care for any “buffs” at this point. The class is playing great right now.

Melee not so much. If you play solo in cyrodiil magblade has a very hard time especially if you get low on health there’s just no oh sht button that’s what we need. As for heals on concealed weapon this skill would help uptime on our major resolve also improving our survivability just like stamblade surprise attack.

Dark cloak.

I play melee range basically. 1k health gen static, troll king, Harness, dark cloak. And shade for “oh ***”. You can play up close. When you add in all the mitigation available... plus rat for mobility... the class is doing fine imho.

If you are a cloak blade... I can’t imagine Zos giving any additional heals. Heals or cloak is a fair trade.

What if you prefer melee up close in your face. If they didn’t intend for melee magblade why does concealed weapon even exist. They should at least add a heal on concealed weapon. Stamblade has vigor I love both specs and only play magblade and stamblade. When I compare the two stamblade a lot easier to play and from what I’m seeing so are the other classes especially mag sorc.

Magsorc a braindead experience. Not really comparable.

Magblade is harder then most specs. Working for the bow proc and getting clean kills is absolutely more work than other classes... that said I don’t think it’s in a bad place.

Melee mnb with concealed does have an argument. It synergizes well with cloak but then puts you in a bad position without a strong hot like on dark cloak. I’m not sure how to remedy that at this point. Add a hot to it coming out of cloak?

It does create a conundrum... I don’t see much point in using it other then semantics of saying “well I’m melee” - swallow soul can be cast directly on top as a melee ability as well. The stun from sneak is nice but fear>>>>>>>>>concealed stun.

But really that is preference. You have an argument but it’s probably not one that Zos is going to do anything about.

Ps. I have seen an uptick in mnbs on Xbox na

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

Main problem witg magblade is we are royally screwed when we use melee weapons. Elemental staffs just don't make sense for the nb theme. Allow duel wield and snb maybe 2h dmg be based on highest stat.

Until spellsword or sword and orb gets introduced y’all are SOL.

You already get significantly high spell dmg from melee weapons but your weaves become nil. Can’t see them giving both.

Yea, using daggers is just cooler then a staff. It’s no comparison.

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

I’m not sure I care for any “buffs” at this point. The class is playing great right now.

Melee not so much. If you play solo in cyrodiil magblade has a very hard time especially if you get low on health there’s just no oh sht button that’s what we need. As for heals on concealed weapon this skill would help uptime on our major resolve also improving our survivability just like stamblade surprise attack.

Dark cloak.

I play melee range basically. 1k health gen static, troll king, Harness, dark cloak. And shade for “oh ***”. You can play up close. When you add in all the mitigation available... plus rat for mobility... the class is doing fine imho.

If you are a cloak blade... I can’t imagine Zos giving any additional heals. Heals or cloak is a fair trade.

What if you prefer melee up close in your face. If they didn’t intend for melee magblade why does concealed weapon even exist. They should at least add a heal on concealed weapon. Stamblade has vigor I love both specs and only play magblade and stamblade. When I compare the two stamblade a lot easier to play and from what I’m seeing so are the other classes especially mag sorc.

Magsorc a braindead experience. Not really comparable.

Magblade is harder then most specs. Working for the bow proc and getting clean kills is absolutely more work than other classes... that said I don’t think it’s in a bad place.

Melee mnb with concealed does have an argument. It synergizes well with cloak but then puts you in a bad position without a strong hot like on dark cloak. I’m not sure how to remedy that at this point. Add a hot to it coming out of cloak?

It does create a conundrum... I don’t see much point in using it other then semantics of saying “well I’m melee” - swallow soul can be cast directly on top as a melee ability as well. The stun from sneak is nice but fear>>>>>>>>>concealed stun.

But really that is preference. You have an argument but it’s probably not one that Zos is going to do anything about.

Ps. I have seen an uptick in mnbs on Xbox na

This is exactly my point. I love in your face aggressive play concealed weapon with shadow disguise just makes sense but I’m not the kind player that runs or zergs I like 1v1 and 1vx I like standing my ground.

It’s going against your current build but try dark cloak and swallow soul... you can basically play melee just fine. You could still run concealed but you will lose the additional effect.

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

I do agree concealed needs something for if you use dark cloak. All the bonus’ of the ability work with disguise, without shadowy disguise it’s just a weak spammable.

Have the people who think magblade is doing really great played a MagWarden? I’m curious, since since they have minor protection as well, better self healing, can absorb projectiles and better ranged dps.

For melee magblade there’s concealed weapon, lotus fan and soul harvest the ultimate.

This is exactly my point the other classes are just better. When I play stamblade I feel so much stronger then magblade. I want melee magblade to be strong and I want to see more magblade out there because let’s be honest players like what op right if magblade was fine we would be seeing a lot more magblade in cyrodiil.

MagBlade is totally fine, actually this is best patch we got for MagBlades in years... You don't see a lot of them because is the highest skill cap build to play in the game...

Chelo wrote: »

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

I do agree concealed needs something for if you use dark cloak. All the bonus’ of the ability work with disguise, without shadowy disguise it’s just a weak spammable.

Have the people who think magblade is doing really great played a MagWarden? I’m curious, since since they have minor protection as well, better self healing, can absorb projectiles and better ranged dps.

For melee magblade there’s concealed weapon, lotus fan and soul harvest the ultimate.

This is exactly my point the other classes are just better. When I play stamblade I feel so much stronger then magblade. I want melee magblade to be strong and I want to see more magblade out there because let’s be honest players like what op right if magblade was fine we would be seeing a lot more magblade in cyrodiil.

MagBlade is totally fine, actually this is best patch we got for MagBlades in years... You don't see a lot of them because is the highest skill cap build to play in the game...

Exactly- noobs don’t want to work for a bow proc and be strategically placing a shade pre fight... or even during fight as it plays out... they want up front blur burst. (Pre nerfed stamblade)

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

I’m not sure I care for any “buffs” at this point. The class is playing great right now.

Melee not so much. If you play solo in cyrodiil magblade has a very hard time especially if you get low on health there’s just no oh sht button that’s what we need. As for heals on concealed weapon this skill would help uptime on our major resolve also improving our survivability just like stamblade surprise attack.

Dark cloak.

I play melee range basically. 1k health gen static, troll king, Harness, dark cloak. And shade for “oh ***”. You can play up close. When you add in all the mitigation available... plus rat for mobility... the class is doing fine imho.

If you are a cloak blade... I can’t imagine Zos giving any additional heals. Heals or cloak is a fair trade.

What if you prefer melee up close in your face. If they didn’t intend for melee magblade why does concealed weapon even exist. They should at least add a heal on concealed weapon. Stamblade has vigor I love both specs and only play magblade and stamblade. When I compare the two stamblade a lot easier to play and from what I’m seeing so are the other classes especially mag sorc.

Magsorc a braindead experience. Not really comparable.

Magblade is harder then most specs. Working for the bow proc and getting clean kills is absolutely more work than other classes... that said I don’t think it’s in a bad place.

Melee mnb with concealed does have an argument. It synergizes well with cloak but then puts you in a bad position without a strong hot like on dark cloak. I’m not sure how to remedy that at this point. Add a hot to it coming out of cloak?

It does create a conundrum... I don’t see much point in using it other then semantics of saying “well I’m melee” - swallow soul can be cast directly on top as a melee ability as well. The stun from sneak is nice but fear>>>>>>>>>concealed stun.

But really that is preference. You have an argument but it’s probably not one that Zos is going to do anything about.

Ps. I have seen an uptick in mnbs on Xbox na

This is exactly my point. I love in your face aggressive play concealed weapon with shadow disguise just makes sense but I’m not the kind player that runs or zergs I like 1v1 and 1vx I like standing my ground.

If you want to be on someone's face, you should play a DK not a NB... NB is more about strategic killing... You can try been a brawler but at the end of the day, DKs will still be brawling better...

Chelo wrote: »

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

I’m not sure I care for any “buffs” at this point. The class is playing great right now.

Melee not so much. If you play solo in cyrodiil magblade has a very hard time especially if you get low on health there’s just no oh sht button that’s what we need. As for heals on concealed weapon this skill would help uptime on our major resolve also improving our survivability just like stamblade surprise attack.

Dark cloak.

I play melee range basically. 1k health gen static, troll king, Harness, dark cloak. And shade for “oh ***”. You can play up close. When you add in all the mitigation available... plus rat for mobility... the class is doing fine imho.

If you are a cloak blade... I can’t imagine Zos giving any additional heals. Heals or cloak is a fair trade.

What if you prefer melee up close in your face. If they didn’t intend for melee magblade why does concealed weapon even exist. They should at least add a heal on concealed weapon. Stamblade has vigor I love both specs and only play magblade and stamblade. When I compare the two stamblade a lot easier to play and from what I’m seeing so are the other classes especially mag sorc.

Magsorc a braindead experience. Not really comparable.

Magblade is harder then most specs. Working for the bow proc and getting clean kills is absolutely more work than other classes... that said I don’t think it’s in a bad place.

Melee mnb with concealed does have an argument. It synergizes well with cloak but then puts you in a bad position without a strong hot like on dark cloak. I’m not sure how to remedy that at this point. Add a hot to it coming out of cloak?

It does create a conundrum... I don’t see much point in using it other then semantics of saying “well I’m melee” - swallow soul can be cast directly on top as a melee ability as well. The stun from sneak is nice but fear>>>>>>>>>concealed stun.

But really that is preference. You have an argument but it’s probably not one that Zos is going to do anything about.

Ps. I have seen an uptick in mnbs on Xbox na

This is exactly my point. I love in your face aggressive play concealed weapon with shadow disguise just makes sense but I’m not the kind player that runs or zergs I like 1v1 and 1vx I like standing my ground.

If you want to be on someone's face, you should play a DK not a NB... NB is more about strategic killing... You can try been a brawler but at the end of the day, DKs will still be brawling better...

I have been playing stamblade since eso release on console back in 2015 it is the only class I play check my YouTube channel out stamblade more then capable for brawler build. I play magblade on and of I’m not terrible at it but I feel much stronger on stamblade. This is exactly why I want magblade to get buffs not to be op just to get better healing and rework concealed. Class like mag sorcs magplar are way more appealing better heals amazing damage this is why you see them everywhere and very few magblades.