7K Necro Bash... Is this for real?
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dsalter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭btw if you use the set that gives your blocks the ability to empower the next bash by 8k shock damage you can reach 14k bash spam in PvPPLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You can use that ultimate only after you regained 250 Ultimate after 20 seconds where your ultigen is completely stopped. You give up cheap and powerful ultimates (DboS for example) for that 20s window where you might be able to bash people to death (if they arent careful).
Screaming how OP this is just based on a death recap after 3 days of patch time isnt really how to convince devs to listen to your feedback. Look at the tooltip and compare it to similar ultimates (such as EotS), other passives that might boost it (such as the 1h&s passive that most players combine this with) and instead of trying to get an ultimate ability nerfed to the ground (which are allowed to be powerful and meant to be dangerous to others), maybe we need to look at other passives that make this so strong...
Reducing the potency of this ultimate further (it was already nerfed from its original state) will simply stop players from using it, especially because it is so expensive.
This is sound reasoning and logic. Good points.0 -
max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What happens when Jesus beam hits for over 7k, can we nerf that again too?#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LOL, I see some PvEers are throwing their 2 septims into this debate. I think ZOS should give this ultimate to some of the adds during a boss fight. I wanna see some hostile NPCs running around clobbering your asses with pummeling bashes while your healer breaks his resto staff on his knee out of frustration. Give it to some of the mini bosses in VMA too, hahaha. Then we'll see if you still think "it's fine, only lasts 20 seconds, blah blah blah!"#CAREBEARMASTERRACE4 -
Vermethys✭✭✭✭Faced a StamNecro twice today in Cyro who'd just run around me in circles, trying to avoid me while I captured resources, until he got enough ultimate for the Goliath. The bash damage is honestly ridiculous, and it hits maybe twice in a second for 4k damage (I have 25k+ resistances) -- it's like a short-ranged machine gun. I just ran around structures until he was out of Goliath form, and burst him down in a few seconds since he probably wasted all his stamina bashing and running after me. It was a fun experience...
ZOS shouldn't nerf bashing as a whole, but change the way this morph of the ultimate operates imo.Edited by Vermethys on June 7, 2019 1:27PMPC EU CP1400+
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Only came back like 2 days ago, but the fact people are defending this makes me laugh xDPS4 EU DC
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lagrue✭✭✭✭✭
✭Obviously a bit broken, but very funny to see somebody bashed to death regardless. Never thought I'd see the day. Good one ZOS."You must defeat me every time. I need defeat you only once"1 -
EmEm_Oh✭✭✭✭✭That's just stupid. Reminds me why I don't PVP anymore.
I've killed Necros on my sorc. I have seen Necros go down via NBs.
Necros are killable.
In PvP. If you can't do something alone....get help.
Also, avoid Necrobash. DO NOT stand in front of them like I see some players. Not wise. This is like picking your nose in front of a stam Dawnbreaker execute. Not wise, either.0 -
The Uninvited✭✭✭✭✭
✭Faced a StamNecro twice today in Cyro who'd just run around me in circles, trying to avoid me while I captured resources, until he got enough ultimate for the Goliath. The bash damage is honestly ridiculous, and it hits maybe twice in a second for 4k damage (I have 25k+ resistances) -- it's like a short-ranged machine gun. I just ran around structures until he was out of Goliath form, and burst him down in a few seconds since he probably wasted all his stamina bashing and running after me. It was a fun experience...
ZOS shouldn't nerf bashing as a whole, but change the way this morph of the ultimate operates imo.
Are you kidding? You just said how you can counter it and then say it should be changed?
The counter is indeed kiting for 20 seconds and then burn them. It will drain their stam quite hard when using the bashes and after that it takes a long time to refill the ulti.
The only problem with it if there's a zerg/ballgroup with a few necros using it.Pandora's Promise (rip) | LND | Pactriotic | IKnowWhatUDidLastWinter's | The Uninvited |
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Unit117✭✭✭✭✭Imperial_Voice wrote: »Necro tank is OP. Necro anything else is luke warm at best.
It’s not op at tanking that’s for sure. It’s pretty weak for a tank in pve0 -
Noblis01✭✭✭OP shudda :
1) roll dodged
2) blocked
3) run away and call for help
4) all of the above
Necros and their skills are not over powered, they are just under countered.
But you don't have to take my word for it.
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Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I tried this.... disappointed was not as OP as forums mentioned. You have to seriously build into for it to be potent.Edited by Tasear on June 7, 2019 8:16PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Savos_Saren wrote: »Honestly, the Necro Ultimate "bash build" is one of those one-trick pony builds. It gets very, very boring quickly. (Think on the lines of high health "Blazeplars" {which don't really exist anymore} and IceDens who have strong Gripping Shards.)
You'll probably see this build running around for a couple of weeks and then people will get tired of having to wait to reach 250 ultimate to eventually do damage to other players.
Hist champion makes wait no so long. Still tried of Nerf fun cause I think it's OP . It's what stripped other classes.0 -
Cathexis✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think I fought this last night. It got me once because I was taken off guard by the sheer output of bashes.
But it wasn't uncounterable. The downfall of this ult is its own design, those bashlords pay a price in perceived threat and that will give you a tactical edge to work with.Tome of Alteration Magic I - Reality is an Ancient Dwemer Construct: Everything You Need to Know About FPS
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✭✭✭✭You know there is something wrong when volendrung carrier with its ultimate loose to bashing goliath.0 -
Muanthuun✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »https://imgur.com/xfIIXbq
This seems kind of overpowered. The guy was just going around deleting people in 2 seconds with this bash.
I get routinely impaled for 7k+.3 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Its pretty obvious when you see players entire playstyle to turtle up and run around with nearly 0 offense until the ultimate comes up. Yes; you have to build for it, but it's quite the carry.0 -
kamimark✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »https://imgur.com/xfIIXbq
This seems kind of overpowered. The guy was just going around deleting people in 2 seconds with this bash.
Breaking news: Damage ultimates are powerful and kill you if you sit still for them. WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT?!
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Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »https://imgur.com/xfIIXbq
This seems kind of overpowered. The guy was just going around deleting people in 2 seconds with this bash.
Breaking news: Damage ultimates are powerful and kill you if you sit still for them. WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT?!
More Breaking News: Magicka builds don't have any ultimates that kill that fast. So NO, some of us wouldn't have "thought".
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LiraTaurwen✭✭✭✭✭Yea it's kinda op and annoying. There are necros now tanky as hell and all they donis survive and wait until they can use their ulti to melt people lol kinda lame. Very annoying when there is more than one doing it at the same time!0
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭When you bash has a 26k tooltip without building for it lmao.
Yeah very balanced when my bash hits for 26k.
I repeat BASH hits harder than pretty much all ults.
Oh and i can spam it every 0.4s for 20s and it's aoe.
People really trying to justify this, seriously? Have the forums become so pointless now.PS4 EU DC
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭OP shudda :
1) roll dodged
2) blocked
3) run away and call for help
4) all of the above
Necros and their skills are not over powered, they are just under countered.
But you don't have to take my word for it.
1. It goes through roll
2. Blocking for 20s straight ok? I've seen people be melted through block.
3. Run away vs gap closer + snare? Sure.
The ult bash spam is OP. Like literally broken. It's a bash that hits harder than most ults.PS4 EU DC
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Radiance✭✭✭✭✭
✭"Petition to change Ultimate's to Mediocre's"
Whiney posts like this is why class skills are damn near useless. We should be Arguing to make all Ultimates effective and worth the time instead of trying to nerf everything into the ground. What is actually OP is tanks who are basically invincible without using an Ultimate. This is a 20 second skill and you can only bash so many people stupid enough to pick a fight with a giant bone daddy. Try roll-dodging away... Consider the Ultimate cost and the fact you can't gain ultimate while in Goliath form. Just stop it, already.4
