Make faction lock ONE CAMPAIGN

Qbiken · May 2019

Vercingetorix wrote: »

You can't cheat anymore. Seriously, get over it. No more sabotaging 30-day campaigns for securing 10+ 30-day campaign rewards. We know you folks are cheating to secure monthly gold and jewelry campaign payouts. Time to learn how to play the game correctly now - or leave. You won't be missed either way.

The only cheating being done to secure campaign victory is the nightcapping and PvDoor squads

TequilaFire · May 2019

Qbiken wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

You can't cheat anymore. Seriously, get over it. No more sabotaging 30-day campaigns for securing 10+ 30-day campaign rewards. We know you folks are cheating to secure monthly gold and jewelry campaign payouts. Time to learn how to play the game correctly now - or leave. You won't be missed either way.

The only cheating being done to secure campaign victory is the nightcapping and PvDoor squads

Speaking of nightcapping, I know the EU server is messed up and EU can't help time zones but there sure has been a lot of EU nightcapping on the NA servers lately. But I won't call that cheating.
Oh and capturing keeps, what you call PvDoor is the object of the campaign, so show up and defend your keeps.
If you are small scale show up and fight the players taking the keep.

bulbousb16_ESO · May 2019

rumple9 wrote: »

All the servers are half full. Big fail

Servers half full is a fail? You would prefer them all full, so you couldn't play? Ask the EU how that's working out for them.

brandonv516 · May 2019

It's laughable to hear people saying they can't play their main in Cyrodiil because of a restriction (or ban as some melodramatic players have called it).

I have 4 reds, 2 yellows, and 1 blue. The reds obviously will play in the 30 day campaigns but the yellows and blue can still play 7 day campaigns, BGs, and IC.

I don't see the issue. If it's your main PvP character then obviously that's going to be in the locked campaign right?

Cortimi · May 2019

Gilvoth wrote: »

bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »

Make faction lock ALL campaigns. There is absolutely zero reason that people should be playing all sides of the campaign. There are more reasons to do this than just reducing exploitation.

exactly!
well said.

Joining the losing side in an attempt to even the odds, instead of just riding a winning zerg and getting nowhere. There's a valid reason, your argument is invalidated.

Qbiken · May 2019

TequilaFire wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

You can't cheat anymore. Seriously, get over it. No more sabotaging 30-day campaigns for securing 10+ 30-day campaign rewards. We know you folks are cheating to secure monthly gold and jewelry campaign payouts. Time to learn how to play the game correctly now - or leave. You won't be missed either way.

The only cheating being done to secure campaign victory is the nightcapping and PvDoor squads

Speaking of nightcapping, I know the EU server is messed up and EU can't help time zones but there sure has been a lot of EU nightcapping on the NA servers lately. But I won't call that cheating.
Oh and capturing keeps, what you call PvDoor is the object of the campaign, so show up and defend your keeps.
If you are small scale show up and fight the players taking the keep.

Objectives should give less points the lower the campaign population is, change my mind. The outcome of a campaign should be decided during "primetime" not during offhours when it's dead.

bulbousb16_ESO · May 2019

Qbiken wrote: »

Objectives should give less points the lower the campaign population is, change my mind. The outcome of a campaign should be decided during "primetime" not during offhours when it's dead.

There is some good merit to this idea, change my mind.

TequilaFire · May 2019

Qbiken wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

You can't cheat anymore. Seriously, get over it. No more sabotaging 30-day campaigns for securing 10+ 30-day campaign rewards. We know you folks are cheating to secure monthly gold and jewelry campaign payouts. Time to learn how to play the game correctly now - or leave. You won't be missed either way.

The only cheating being done to secure campaign victory is the nightcapping and PvDoor squads

Speaking of nightcapping, I know the EU server is messed up and EU can't help time zones but there sure has been a lot of EU nightcapping on the NA servers lately. But I won't call that cheating.
Oh and capturing keeps, what you call PvDoor is the object of the campaign, so show up and defend your keeps.
If you are small scale show up and fight the players taking the keep.

Objectives should give less points the lower the campaign population is, change my mind. The outcome of a campaign should be decided during "primetime" not during offhours when it's dead.

And that would screw over players in different time zones.
Defend your keeps instead of clique sayings like "change my mind".

Beardimus · May 2019

therift wrote: »

The outcry against is tiny compared to the past two years of outcry in favor, along with the mountain of evidence and reports submitted to ZoS on faction-hopping abuses.

Another report went to ZoS yesterday on PS4NA. That particular abuse falls into the 'ban' category, according to statements previously made by ZoS.

All I wanted was one locked campaign. Apparently, since Update 18 went live and ZoS stated they would monitor concerns about Alliance loyalty, the abuses are significant and pervasive enough to require the decision they made.

Aye!

Kidgangster101 · May 2019

Cursa wrote: »

ShadowDisciple wrote: »

Synnastix wrote: »

What’s the “abuse” you guys are claiming? Worst I’ve seen were people harassing others for being a “spy”.

When 1 factions is loosing heavily..people switch chars and play for winning faction..infinitelly reducing a chance for a loosing faction to rise up...

With fac-lock you are forced to help your faction of choice rise up and win insteaad of hopping on the winners side and crushing the loosing faction even worse..

It makes for more competition and fighting chance fpr everyone..

Blood for the Pact!!

Funnily enough I think myself and most other people who don’t want faction lock, are doing so for the complete opposite reason.

We just want fun PVP. If the alliance we are on is dominating the map, we actually want to join the weak faction so we have people to fight against.

There is no fun in sieging doors and killing guards with nobody defending, it is Player Vs Player , not player vs NPC’s to gain bad rewards. And anyway rewards are useless, you get transmute stones on the losing alliance anyway.

My reasons are in your favour at least, so why not faction lock only the rewards but allow cross play. And punish scroll flipping.

Because it doesn't always work that way. I play in a campaign where the exact opposite happens. Players will start with an alliance to fight. One alliance basically captures the entire map and camps it for 90% of the campaign.

The faction that literally owns everything on the map dominates because a lot of players switch to that faction after not being able to take any keeps (except the 2 you can't lose). And they literally go to a keep under attack defend it and get ap. This has happened the past 3 months on PS4 so I am glad faction hoping is done.

I also will say you can gain a lot of transmute crystals in pve 90% of the game is catered to pve players. The pvp population isn't helped by pve players farming 25k ap then leaving for the entire month. Pvp players care about their gaming experience. Transmute crystals are basically trial drops inside the pvp zone, how would you feel if a pvp player entered a pve vet trial once a month beat it and got a free perfect piece of gear in the mail after you farmed in there the entire month? Alliance war is for people that want to pvp not the 25k ap farmers just saying.

bulbousb16_ESO · May 2019

TequilaFire wrote: »

And that would screw over players in different time zones.
Defend your keeps instead of clique sayings like "change my mind".

I agree his catchphrase is pretty lame, but he does have a good idea. If there were some way to weight the scoring according to the population of the server, it might solve a number of issues put forward. You'd probably have to weight the scoring according to the population of the smallest faction, though. Yes, this would necessarily mean that the contributions of people playing in off-peak hours would be lessened; but I would not define that as a "screw over".

bentmer · May 2019

They should open a 30 day no faction lock server. But I understand why they do not do that. Because a minority of the people would stay on the faction locked server while the rest would migrate to the non locked one and you would further split the pvp population.

My problem with faction locking is that they implemented this change after many years where faction choice had very little relevancy. It'd be like if my friend and I both moved into a neighborhood where all the houses were either blue, red, or yellow but were told the colors didn't really matter so I moved into a red one and they moved into a yellow one. Then 4 years later, we are told actually, the colors actually do matter, and now you can only visit the houses that are the same color as yours.

If you're going to make this type of unilateral change then you need to allow players the ability to rethink their alliance choices with the knowledge that those choices now hold consequences.

Goregrinder · May 2019

You newbies have no idea how long us Vets have wanted faction lock.

MajBludd · May 2019

Faction lock was lifted due to people saying they couldn't play with their friends on other alliances.

As soon as it was lifted you had people using their buds to sneak into keeps and steal scrolls. Faction hopping to the winning side, etc.

So, because of these things, faction lock is back. Rarely do players flip factions for good reasons, low pop. They do it to get to tier 3 rewards on the winning side.

I play or played multiple factions for several reasons. If the majority of players want faction lock, well, that's how it is and we all have to deal with it.

So, go play in an unlocked camp, or play for one faction, or dont play. The majority has spoken it would seem.

XxMissAlycexX · May 2019

Wow a lot to take in. Lol.

All I will say is I’ve played one faction the whole time I’ve played this game. AD all the way. Until about 2 months ago... I absolutely believe in the loyalty of one faction but I also strongly believe in having fun and new experiences. I feel that I have somewhat missed out on 2/3 of the game by staying one faction.

The only motivation behind making other colours is to widen the possibilities and also the groups of people I can play with in the game. (For example not everyone have a tank on all three factions ect)

BG’s is only fun for so long. Lol.

So I somewhat to agree with faction locking (that’s my loyal sweaty yellow inside me LMAO) But I disagree with it in the fact of me legitimately just wanting to play with my friends ect, like is that what the games all about? Why does that have to be taken away lol.

But on a deeper note, it’s not going to stop any of the problems in zone chat, spying all that is still gonna be here. Sometimes the people within your own faction are the biggest trolls of all.

Time will tell I suppose but I think all of you that are so strongly for the lock will be strongly disappointed.

Mintaka5 · May 2019

I'm not out-crying....

Regal_Imp · May 2019

Goregrinder wrote: »

You newbies have no idea how long us Vets have wanted faction lock.

its not newbies vs vets, its RPers vs PvPers. Most people who play the game for the actual combat want to remove faction lock, and the people that believe the game is like a real life war want to keep faction lock. Neither is right or wrong, that's why I offered options to benefit both sides.

Ramber · May 2019

This is hilarious how some players wanna keep playing like that. Just deal guys its better for the vast majority of players!