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Magblade died
Apxac
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Are you seriously? Do you want to completely kill this class in pvp? You remove the Minor Berserk, leaving it to the same Warden. You take away the reduction of healing (one of the main features of the class), you take away the fast healing, and what do you give in return? In return, do you improve DK by partially eliminating only the reflection of projectiles? Can you heal yourself with a ghostly bow? It's all? Thank you, apparently I will no longer play this game.
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MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Major defile removed only from incap. It's not like direct nerf, they simply push magblade to melee. Will it work or no.. future will show.2 -
Apxac✭✭✭Erm, Bye then, have a nice day.
It is easy to talk to a person who has not spent a year of his life developing one class. The changes were unpleasant, but I suffered, now I'm in a rage. Who is involved in balance in this game? These are terrible changes for an almost dead class. Before writing such comments here, remember how often you see magblades in pvp now...Edited by Apxac on April 15, 2019 10:12PM18 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Major defile removed only from incap. It's not like direct nerf, they simply push magblade to melee. Will it work or no.. future will show.
I guess Stamblades will switch to Soul Harvest then. I guess ZOS doesn't want Stamblades having an ult?3 -
PeterUnlustig✭✭✭✭Magblade died long ago, Zdan is just using up old Footage from pre Nerfmire.
But seriously.... dark cloak nerfed dmg nerfed and this:
"Robes of the Hist:
Reduced the healing of this set by 20%.
Fixed an issue where this item set was able to critically strike."
Edited by PeterUnlustig on April 15, 2019 10:19PM4 -
OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I like the change to incap because Minor Mangle was a debuff you could only find on pulsar but now NB is the only class that has it. It makes them unique, we will have to see how that impacts NB gameplay.2 -
Apxac✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Major defile removed only from incap. It's not like direct nerf, they simply push magblade to melee. Will it work or no.. future will show.
With the changes in the other classes magblade looks like crap. The stamina version got no less, but I don’t understand why does ZOS kill this class..Edited by Apxac on April 16, 2019 12:18AM0 -
Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What are you complaining about? This was a great patch for magblades!
Only a single nerf really, with the loss of Minor Berserk. But we get
1) A heal on Spectral Bow
2) A better Fear CC (that also doesn't run opponents out of the map!)
3) Sap 25% dmg buff
4) Minor Vulnerability on Lotus fan/Teleport strike
And before you say these are minor buffs compared to the loss, remember the best buffs are outside of the class.
1) MagDKs won't reflect all our crap back at us
2) If you find a slot (which you will) for Race Against Time, you get snare immunity, speed buff and minor force.
The class just became so much more playable!MartiniDaniels wrote: »Major defile removed only from incap. It's not like direct nerf, they simply push magblade to melee. Will it work or no.. future will show.
I guess Stamblades will switch to Soul Harvest then. I guess ZOS doesn't want Stamblades having an ult?
DBoS just like the rest of the stam builds now :'(
Edited by Maulkin on April 15, 2019 10:41PMEU | PC | AD21 -
Olupajmibanan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Have you ever heard of Slimecraw?
Now you can have Minor Berserk combined with Minor Vulnerability from new teleport strike5 -
Apxac✭✭✭What are you complaining about? This was a great patch for magblades!
Only a single nerf really, with the loss of Minor Berserk. But we get
1) A heal on Spectral Bow
2) A better Fear CC (that also doesn't run opponents out of the map!)
3) Sap 25% dmg buff
4) Minor Vulnerability on Lotus fan/Teleport strike
And before you say this are minor buffs compared to the loss, remember the best buffs are outside of the class.
1) MagDKs won't reflect all our crap back at us
2) If you find a slot (which you will) for Race Against Time, you get snare immunity, speed buff and minor force.
The class just became so much more playable!MartiniDaniels wrote: »Major defile removed only from incap. It's not like direct nerf, they simply push magblade to melee. Will it work or no.. future will show.
I guess Stamblades will switch to Soul Harvest then. I guess ZOS doesn't want Stamblades having an ult?
DBoS just like the rest of the stam builds now :'(
I understand that this is the path to rapprochement. But there is a problem, this class does not have good healing now, because the dark cloac is reworked. And the use of spectral bow for healing? Can you imagine it?1 -
Chubarov_S✭✭✭Olupajmibanan wrote: »Have you ever heard of Slimecraw?
Now you can have Minor Berserk combined with Minor Vulnerability from new teleport strike
And finally we come to what magnb should wear "sets-crutches"?
Caluurion for burst,
BRP resto for survivability,
Slimcraw for damage?Edited by Chubarov_S on April 15, 2019 10:40PMTheorycrafter manaNB8 -
Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭What are you complaining about? This was a great patch for magblades!
Only a single nerf really, with the loss of Minor Berserk. But we get
1) A heal on Spectral Bow
2) A better Fear CC (that also doesn't run opponents out of the map!)
3) Sap 25% dmg buff
4) Minor Vulnerability on Lotus fan/Teleport strike
And before you say this are minor buffs compared to the loss, remember the best buffs are outside of the class.
1) MagDKs won't reflect all our crap back at us
2) If you find a slot (which you will) for Race Against Time, you get snare immunity, speed buff and minor force.
The class just became so much more playable!MartiniDaniels wrote: »Major defile removed only from incap. It's not like direct nerf, they simply push magblade to melee. Will it work or no.. future will show.
I guess Stamblades will switch to Soul Harvest then. I guess ZOS doesn't want Stamblades having an ult?
DBoS just like the rest of the stam builds now :'(
Yea only issue is survivability in said melee range. Dark cloak previously could have (almost) been just enough if combined with a shield or heavy... but that tiny 500 tick per second is flat out bs.
Don’t worry we slotting combat prayer for that minor berserk back.Edited by Insco851 on April 15, 2019 10:42PM1 -
Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I understand that this is the path to rapprochement. But there is a problem, this class does not have good healing now, because the dark cloac is reworked. And the use of spectral bow for healing? Can you imagine it?Yea only issue is survivability in said melee range. Dark cloak previously could have (almost) been just enough if combined with a shield or heavy... but that tiny 500 tick per second is flat out bs.
Don’t worry we slotting combat prayer for that minor berserk back.
Fair enough, I never played tanky magblade with Dark Cloak to know how that is impacted. It just felt a bit "wrong" as a play style to me, too DK like. Always played with light armour, damage shields and invis cloak. And that play style got buffed this patch.EU | PC | AD1 -
Apxac✭✭✭I understand that the developers want to see melee for my magblade, well, I can try, just give me the opportunity to heal myself!1
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I understand that this is the path to rapprochement. But there is a problem, this class does not have good healing now, because the dark cloac is reworked. And the use of spectral bow for healing? Can you imagine it?Yea only issue is survivability in said melee range. Dark cloak previously could have (almost) been just enough if combined with a shield or heavy... but that tiny 500 tick per second is flat out bs.
Don’t worry we slotting combat prayer for that minor berserk back.
Fair enough, I never played tanky magblade with Dark Cloak to know how that is impacted. It just felt a bit "wrong" as a play style to me, too DK like. Always played with light armour, damage shields and invis cloak. And that play style got buffed this patch.
Tanky mageblade now can properly use Lotus + sap essence + Dark cloak + strife. In other words Sap Tank is backSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
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Apxac✭✭✭I understand that this is the path to rapprochement. But there is a problem, this class does not have good healing now, because the dark cloac is reworked. And the use of spectral bow for healing? Can you imagine it?Yea only issue is survivability in said melee range. Dark cloak previously could have (almost) been just enough if combined with a shield or heavy... but that tiny 500 tick per second is flat out bs.
Don’t worry we slotting combat prayer for that minor berserk back.
Fair enough, I never played tanky magblade with Dark Cloak to know how that is impacted. It just felt a bit "wrong" as a play style to me, too DK like. Always played with light armour, damage shields and invis cloak. And that play style got buffed this patch.
Tanky mageblade now can properly use Lotus + sap essence + Dark cloak + strife. In other words Sap Tank is back
But what about the damage? The very idea of the class is based on causing damage, but I don’t quite understand the logic of the developers on these issues. The magical type of this class has always played at a distance and survived through the use of shields and a small healing ability. Now they want a rapprochement, but they change the unique healing ability so that it does not heal.1 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »I like the change to incap because Minor Mangle was a debuff you could only find on pulsar but now NB is the only class that has it. It makes them unique, we will have to see how that impacts NB gameplay.
Lmao Mangle won’t even last a full second, it may as well not exist in the ability unless it lasts the entire duration of the bonus damage5 -
Heimpai✭✭✭✭✭Olupajmibanan wrote: »Have you ever heard of Slimecraw?
Now you can have Minor Berserk combined with Minor Vulnerability from new teleport strike
If you’re using ts i hope you’re using a melee build..which isn’t really the purpose of mag but whatev
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Apxac✭✭✭Have you even tested the changes yet...?
Unfortunately I can not afford for now. However, now I see what the developers want and I do not like it terribly. The fact is that these changes are not logical. How can you get close to the enemy, if you can not survive? The very idea of the magical type of this class is now crumbling. It is enough to see the description of these changes and for a long time to play for a certain class, to understand it.0 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Have you even tested the changes yet...?
Unfortunately I can not afford for now. However, now I see what the developers want and I do not like it terribly. The fact is that these changes are not logical. How can you get close to the enemy, if you can not survive? The very idea of the magical type of this class is now crumbling. It is enough to see the description of these changes and for a long time to play for a certain class, to understand it.
Can I haz ur stuff?3 -
Apxac✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »Have you even tested the changes yet...?
Unfortunately I can not afford for now. However, now I see what the developers want and I do not like it terribly. The fact is that these changes are not logical. How can you get close to the enemy, if you can not survive? The very idea of the magical type of this class is now crumbling. It is enough to see the description of these changes and for a long time to play for a certain class, to understand it.
Can I haz ur stuff?
come, why not
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FleetwoodSmack✭✭✭✭✭
✭I understand that this is the path to rapprochement. But there is a problem, this class does not have good healing now, because the dark cloac is reworked. And the use of spectral bow for healing? Can you imagine it?Yea only issue is survivability in said melee range. Dark cloak previously could have (almost) been just enough if combined with a shield or heavy... but that tiny 500 tick per second is flat out bs.
Don’t worry we slotting combat prayer for that minor berserk back.
Fair enough, I never played tanky magblade with Dark Cloak to know how that is impacted. It just felt a bit "wrong" as a play style to me, too DK like. Always played with light armour, damage shields and invis cloak. And that play style got buffed this patch.
Tanky mageblade now can properly use Lotus + sap essence + Dark cloak + strife. In other words Sap Tank is back
For me it never left. This just made it more manageable.
Honestly, this doesn't even affect my DPSBlade too much either. I haven't tested the changes yet, but I don't anticipate too many adjustments. We'll see. Can't say I'm surprised that there's already salt-threads and posts and people haven't even tried it.Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!0 -
Apxac✭✭✭FleetwoodSmack wrote: »I understand that this is the path to rapprochement. But there is a problem, this class does not have good healing now, because the dark cloac is reworked. And the use of spectral bow for healing? Can you imagine it?Yea only issue is survivability in said melee range. Dark cloak previously could have (almost) been just enough if combined with a shield or heavy... but that tiny 500 tick per second is flat out bs.
Don’t worry we slotting combat prayer for that minor berserk back.
Fair enough, I never played tanky magblade with Dark Cloak to know how that is impacted. It just felt a bit "wrong" as a play style to me, too DK like. Always played with light armour, damage shields and invis cloak. And that play style got buffed this patch.
Tanky mageblade now can properly use Lotus + sap essence + Dark cloak + strife. In other words Sap Tank is back
For me it never left. This just made it more manageable.
Honestly, this doesn't even affect my DPSBlade too much either. I haven't tested the changes yet, but I don't anticipate too many adjustments. We'll see. Can't say I'm surprised that there's already salt-threads and posts and people haven't even tried it.
salt-threads? rly?
dude, last i`m healing 35% - 3 sec, now 36% - 8 sec; last i`m have minor berserk buff all time, now vulnerability vs 1 opponent if i`m use lotus (loool ); now i`m have 50% healing if use spectral bow, 6-12k damage, 3-6k healing in pve, 1,5-3k in pvp. Salt threads? 6 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Honestly I a little mixed on my reason to this.
I think the mangle is actually nicer than defile.
Not to impressed from the heal with bow. (We dont like unreliable heals, as in heals you have to jump thru hoops to use)
Edited by ezio45 on April 16, 2019 12:39AM0 -
hesobad✭✭✭✭Are you seriously? Do you want to completely kill this class in pvp? You remove the Minor Berserk, leaving it to the same Warden. You take away the reduction of healing (one of the main features of the class), you take away the fast healing, and what do you give in return? In return, do you improve DK by partially eliminating only the reflection of projectiles? Can you heal yourself with a ghostly bow? It's all? Thank you, apparently I will no longer play this game.
Wait they weren't already dead? Pretty sure they died a long time ago
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FleetwoodSmack✭✭✭✭✭
✭FleetwoodSmack wrote: »I understand that this is the path to rapprochement. But there is a problem, this class does not have good healing now, because the dark cloac is reworked. And the use of spectral bow for healing? Can you imagine it?Yea only issue is survivability in said melee range. Dark cloak previously could have (almost) been just enough if combined with a shield or heavy... but that tiny 500 tick per second is flat out bs.
Don’t worry we slotting combat prayer for that minor berserk back.
Fair enough, I never played tanky magblade with Dark Cloak to know how that is impacted. It just felt a bit "wrong" as a play style to me, too DK like. Always played with light armour, damage shields and invis cloak. And that play style got buffed this patch.
Tanky mageblade now can properly use Lotus + sap essence + Dark cloak + strife. In other words Sap Tank is back
For me it never left. This just made it more manageable.
Honestly, this doesn't even affect my DPSBlade too much either. I haven't tested the changes yet, but I don't anticipate too many adjustments. We'll see. Can't say I'm surprised that there's already salt-threads and posts and people haven't even tried it.
salt-threads? rly? dude, last i`m healing 35% - 3 sec, now 36% - 8 sec; last i`m have minor berserk buff all time, now vulnerability vs 1 opponent if i`m use lotus (loool ); now i`m have 50% healing if use spectral bow, 6-12k damage, 3-6k healing in pve, 1,5-3k in pvp. Salt threads?
Considering people are saying it's dead without trying it and throwing a temper tantrum like a four year old, that's pretty salty.
Also would like to petition for your stuff if you're leaving. Asking for friends.Edited by FleetwoodSmack on April 16, 2019 12:45AMTell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!2 -
hesobad✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Major defile removed only from incap. It's not like direct nerf, they simply push magblade to melee. Will it work or no.. future will show.
Unless zerg bombing, only way to play mag blade effectively was to melee gank with Caluurions. Very difficult to play the class effectively with any other play style anymoreAd Victoriam!3
