It should be for gold too. Even if a lot of, like 500k for one zone.
Especially if it will not be giftable. And I think it wouldn't, because it needs achievements, so that will be unobtainable without buying crowns, which not everybody can do.

But choosing between "no" and "for crowns" - crowns, please.

Buying skyshards is pay for convenience so Im okay with it. It just needs to be a ''token'' so people can gift it to each other with crown/gold exchange

I hope they don't sell many of the packs, mostly because I don't want to see skill lines for sale later on. Monetization of game mechanics doesn't sit well with me at all. I sub to support the game and won't pay for something that's already free in game.

Universe wrote: »

Parrot1986 wrote: »

Defitnely no. Levelling alts requires time and effort and is much easier now with the way CP works compared to veteran ranks. You also don’t need a huge amount of skill points to be functional in your role. Only really if you want to max out crafting etc. I have enough skill points by collecting sky shards in the psijic quest zones on skill points from dungeons.

Either change it so they are account bound and thus a feature like CP or keep it as is.

Adding it to crown store is just the start of paying for progress. Why not just add Fighters Guild, Psijic, Mages Guild and Undaunted and Level 10 Assault if we do this.

It was already confirmed by the Developers that if crown store skyshard packs will be a success, they will look into adding maxed skill lines to the crown store(Source: ESO Live Twitch Stream Day 2 BethesdaGameDays).

Really disappointed by that, there’s absolutely no need. Why put skill lines that are supposed to take effort through gameplay and experience and just sell for real money only.

When I look at other games store models I’m happy ESO is pretty much cosmetic only. This though is a really bad path IMO and encourages shelling out real money for quick progress.

Wish they put more effort in creating reasons to spend money on a subscription to generate revenue than this.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Michae wrote: »

Just make them account wide. People have been asking for that for years, don't put it behind the pay wall...

...but since that would not benefit ZOS in the -slightest- they are not likely to do it, and anyone who would suggest it to the suits in charge likely would be told to consider looking for a new job in the non-profit sector.
Which is not generally the kind of sector that creates as impressive and expansive games like ESO, huh? Because they do not have the money to make the investments, pay for the server upkeep and all the staff to maintain it, as well as developers to add to it.

Face the facts, they -need- profits to show to the shareholders to keep the game running. Thus they will monetize whatever they can get away with - and since it might happen in the not too distant future that gambling crates become iffy, legal-wise (or rather, taxed into submission, since generally the tax trolls are at least as greedy as the capitalist suits)... they might be considering other territories to farm for their profits in the grey area between "Cosmetic" and "Pay to Win".

But from my point of view, that greed is good, as it will ensure that the "gimme crowd" does not get the "free stuff" they so often keep whining about, but simply gets another chouce - play for it, or pay for it.
I mean, think about it... if people had spent the time they wasted on "gimme!" discussions here farming for the very same in game... they'd already have all the skyshards on most of their alts!

Hey, I don't disagree with you there. But the poll asked and I answered how I feel, not how I think it'll happen. I'm not exactly opposed to unlocking skyshards in CS. Depends on how they do it. There are few options:

1. One off account-wide unlock making skyshards you find on any toon available to every toon. I'd prefer that and I'd probably buy it even if it was reasonably priced. But I'm afraid it would yeld too little money for ZOS.

2. Unlock for one toon connecting it to other toon with more skyshards? I doubt they'll make it so.

3. Unlocking of all skyshards that can be found account wide. I doubt that one too, but if they did it it probably would be pretty pricey.

4. Unlocking of all skyshards that can be found on one toon. More probable, reeks of pay to win as the one above although I wouldn't call it p2w just yet.

5. Buying skyshards unlocks one by one for one toon, similar to buying riding/pack and bank upgrades. Almost P2W and really greedy but less people are gonna get it.

6. Buying skill points outright and still being able to find skyshards essentially making it p2w. This one sucks the most.

So I could accept the first option but others would seem strange or greedy to various degrees. The last one would be a straight out no no as it would be P2W by allowing paying people get more skill points than the ones that don't pay. Well technically we already have that since you have to buy chapters, dlcs or eso+ to get some of the skyshards and quest skill points in game but at least you're required to put some effort into it.

In conclusion I understand the sentiment of skyshard hunting being tedious for people who don't have that much time to play as I'm one of them. But making payed progression unlocks like that is always risky and can deteriorate the game to be made more grindy in order to extort money from people for shortcuts and paves the way for even more scummy p2w mechanics in the future.

Happy now?

I won't be using them myself, but don't see why other players should not have this option.

Can't wait to see how much they're going to cost. I'm sure they are going to bring a lot of money into the game.

I'm mostly on the fence but I think I'd probably grab "The Cyrodiil Pack" or whatever it'd end up being called just because I know I, personally, devalue the PvP aspect of Cyrodiil when I'm out there by suddenly veering off and getting another skyshard instead of pushing through to the objective of my group - assuming I don't have a primadonna Crown that screams for everyone to be on them at all times and my 30 second detour is grounds for summary execution, further making them not worth the hassle.

I know I can't fix it mentally for myself or culturally for angry crowns but I can flip a ten spot at the store and make the root cause go away and still benefit.

Shouldn’t have to pay for it...but this is what I expected with all the people complaining that Skyshards Shouldn’t be Account wide...so this way...those that are tired of doing same thing that has No Gameplay involved in it...can skip if they choose to do so

I would never buy skyshards or skill lines (or any form of progress) for single characters, but I am all for letting people pay for the shortcuts on alts. I suppose I would consider an account unlock since I have a lot of crowns collecting dust, but that doesn't seem to be what they are offering.

I do feel that this could be broken for under-50 PvP though, as people would have access to skills they should not have access to at low levels and could break the power normalization that is currently done.

I find the "money grab" comments pointless. Sure, it is easy money. So what? Games need revenue. This also makes the game feel like less of a chore for many. It also gives no advantage when everyone is at max level. The only major imbalance this introduces is in sub-50 PvP, which it can kinda break.

Linaleah wrote: »

I think those skyshard packs should be available for purchase for in game gold (in before buying crowns 1. its not the same, 2. they are not going to be giftable anyways).

I don't mind if monetanization is an option, i really really mind when its the ONLY option. and before anyone starts talking about "you can get them old fashioned way still" i know, I'm talking about specifically being able to purchase packs for alts. I think they should be added to the achievement vendors in capitol cities.

quality of life improvements should NOT be cash only. this is NOT a free to play game, so contrary to some claims floating around this is NOT necessary for game upkeep and adding them solely to cash shop is a stinky cashgrab

Say they make it 100k gold per zone in game. Wouldn't it be faster to still collect them manually than making that kind of gold?

Jhalin wrote: »

sevomd69 wrote: »

esotoon wrote: »

sevomd69 wrote: »

If they do illegalize crown crates and there is no other effective way to generate revenue...then there will be no more ESO...

I think this escapes the reality of some people on this forum...ESO is not a charity organization...if they stop making money they will pull the plug...

It also escapes people who support crown crates that there is a middle ground between crown crates and going broke. For instance you can sell and make revenue on the items in those crown crates by selling those items at a fair price in the crown store, without the need to gamble. And/or you could add these quality of life (non-cosmetic) improvements to ESO+ which in turn will encourage people to subscribe, giving ZOS a regular income.

There is wanting to make money and then there is wanting to make ALL the money as Jim Sterling would say.

The whole reason for the existence of a company like ZoS/Zenimax is to make THE MOST MONEY possible...Some of you just gotta grasp the realities of the real world...they're not doing this for our entertainment...no matter how much you want to think the opposite...

Some companies actually still give a sht and don’t design their games like players are just mindless sheep they can milk and prod without consequence. ZOS isn’t one of them.

Every time the community accepts one of these blatantly player-hostile monetizatons schemes, they’re proving to ZOS that they’re right to think their playerbase consists of mindless sheeple.

Well, the players have asked for an option to grinding skyshards on multiple characters.

ZOS gave them an option that doesn't ruin the game for people who enjoy exploring the world on alts. Makes both sides happy, I hope.

Michae wrote: »

Just make them account wide. People have been asking for that for years, don't put it behind the pay wall. I can already hear the cries of thousands of forum users if you do that.

And people who enjoy exploring the world with multiple characters and gathering skyshards have asked them NOT to do that. So hopefully this makes both sides happy.

May I remind you that ESO+ subscribers get a crown stipend with their subscription. That's something they can use it for.