Because once money is involved you have to put in work, this is just something people are doing to help better the game for their hobbies and making it more enjoyable. Just because you're helping a company out doesn't mean you need to be paid for it, besides I'm sure being under NDA and hearing some upcoming plans is enjoyable for some of them and that's the deal zos is giving them. The class rep program before the nda seemed pretty undesirableZarkingFrued wrote: »Why would you ever sign an NDA with ZOS when you're not even getting paid? I hope you guys talked to a lawyer to have them read it over at least. This is charity work your doing for a company that stands to make loads of money off of your advice.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hello everyone! We’d like to give you an update on how the Class Representative Program has been going from our perspective, and some updates on the program moving forward.
We’ve had several voice calls with the Class Reps for them to present combat-related issues that were important to the community, and we’ve found all of these meetings to be immensely helpful and informative. While you may not have always seen changes in patches that you were hoping for, this information is one piece among many that help us in making decisions for the immediate and distant future. We still plan to have these calls at least once a quarter, or more as needed, and provide everyone with the meeting notes.
We’d also like to take this time to talk about some changes we’re making to the program. Effective immediately, all Class Reps have signed a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) to help facilitate more transparency between them and the development team, and allow us to have a more open dialogue more regularly. This means that they will need to be very selective about what questions of yours they can answer. However, we still want to make sure everyone is aware of what we’re discussing. As mentioned previously, we still plan to publish any meeting notes from voice calls we have, and we’re talking about other ways we can keep everyone in the loop. More on that to come as we nail down the exact details.
Just as a reminder, the job of the Class Reps is to act as advisors, helping to surface issues important to you all and representing the community’s perspective during discussions with the development team. While we greatly value their input, decisions regarding the direction of the game still fall squarely on the development team. This change to the program is intended to allow the Class Reps to more effectively fulfill their role as advisors.
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We keep hearing a lot of gossip about class reps finding out about changes ahead of time and being able to do things like, for example, stock up on gold jewelry that was just in the vendor for the pvp event and would have normally been ignored b/c it was a meh set.
It may sound petty to worry about it, but personally, I find behavior like that would be unethical and would be concerned if reps were using their position for 'insider trading' so-to-speak.
Some posters (often friends and fans of reps considering they are often known for streaming or being in large guilds) are making excuses for that behavior to try and justify it, which actually makes me even more concerned it might actually be going on.
I'd like to know that is something you guys would take seriously and make sure is not being done is all. I haven't gone around to watch Master Merchant data to see who happened to be stocked up on these new sets and ready to sell them, so I'm not even saying I've seen it happen. But with various people mentioning it on various platforms (discord channels, in game, forums, etc) it would be nice to know it's not being permitted.
Time stop is one of the only sure ways (aside from negates-but we've lost a lot of sorcs) to crowd control ball groups. Think about who that affects. Now you understand who is screaming and why they are being listened to. It is also why we can pretty much guarantee that the rapids changes will not (really) happen. These people run powerful guilds and do not like to lose any advantage.
They can still get information, they just need to be more sneaky about it.https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5574913#Comment_5574913
The reps have been put under an NDA. This means that they will be less able to communicate potential changes to us like they did during murkmire. This could be both good or bad, best to voice your opinion.
Rather than saying "ZOS is thinking about X" they could say "I considered X in my ideas about how to fix it".
Drop it in casual forums or Discord discussion, see what people say. Depends how restrictive the NDA is and what ZOS will allow.
EVE Onlines CSM will be a good example of how this will work under NDA.
They can still get information, they just need to be more sneaky about it.https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5574913#Comment_5574913
The reps have been put under an NDA. This means that they will be less able to communicate potential changes to us like they did during murkmire. This could be both good or bad, best to voice your opinion.
Rather than saying "ZOS is thinking about X" they could say "I considered X in my ideas about how to fix it".
Drop it in casual forums or Discord discussion, see what people say. Depends how restrictive the NDA is and what ZOS will allow.
EVE Onlines CSM will be a good example of how this will work under NDA.
EVE Onlines CSM is probably the worst example you could roll out about player reps and NDA'S.
They're dominated by the massive alliances due to a stupid block voting procedure, and whenever any major changes are in the pipeline the said alliances always seem to be ahead of the game for some reason, strange isn't it
Yet here you are encouraging these guys to be sneaky about it.
I've been playing EVE for over 7 years, let's hope these guys are better and more honest.