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It is time to nerf Stamblades and other things
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Colecovision wrote: »@Gnozo
What's your gear? What conditions apply to get those numbers? Is that effective weapon damage or actual? Also, what race?
Actually i am not allowed to go into any detail but basic sets are: Shackle, Truth and Master bow.
And these stats are fully fully buffed.
You can drop some damage for some more cancer by also using Trollking:
Group buffs? If so Im sure you can achieve similar numbers on other classes
No group buffs. Self buffed.
And show me how you get 17k Ransack Tooltip for Classes like StamDK or StamSorc. Or Stamplar with Jabs (wich doesnt provide major fracture).
Nightblade damage is just broken.
Nightblades is the most powerfull class actually, in term os damage, but I never see it in term of numbers. Maybe it make they a killer machine that we see in cyrodiil.
Thanks for sharing
@ZOS_GinaBrunoEdited by cbritomiranda on November 29, 2018 7:05PMArielle Pendragon [] High Elf - Sorcerer [DD]
Ataena Zastee [] Khajiit - Nightblade [DD]
Marie Pendragon [] Breton - Nightblade [DD]
Angeline Pendragon [] Breton - Templar [Healer]
Freyja Stone-Singer [] Nord - Dragonknight [Tanker]
Raelys the Flame [] High Elf - Dragonknight [Healer]
Anne-Marie Pendragon [] Breton - Warden [Healer]
Fairynn Frost-Moon [] Nord - Warden [Tanker]
Asrin the Wise [] Khajiit - Sorcerer [DD]0 -
JobooAGS✭✭✭✭✭
✭Colecovision wrote: »@Gnozo
What's your gear? What conditions apply to get those numbers? Is that effective weapon damage or actual? Also, what race?
Actually i am not allowed to go into any detail but basic sets are: Shackle, Truth and Master bow.
And these stats are fully fully buffed.
You can drop some damage for some more cancer by also using Trollking:
Group buffs? If so Im sure you can achieve similar numbers on other classes
No group buffs. Self buffed.
Dawnbreaker front bar? How many fighters guild?
No Dawnbreaker front, just normal setup tho.
Replace Siph Attacks with Poison Injecton
Infused 2h?
Nirn 2h but Infused Bow with Weapon Damage Enchant
6k weapon damage and 36k stam is obtainable by all classes and more as dk has minor brutality (10%) sorc has 2% per sorc ability templar has 6% more than nb except for for 1 attack from stealth at which nb is equal to dk. So the issue is initial tooltips
Edit sorc can also have 8% more stam and has 5% more physical damage
Sure they can obtain 6k weapon damage and 36k stam. Maybe even more they dont have the Tools to make proper use of it.
No class could get similiar Recovery like what i showed you, even tho if they could they are still missing strong tools like Cloak/Shadow Image and Major Defile Build into their Ultimate. Or an unblockable CC like fear wich also brings minor main on the Enemy if the Shadow havent already applied it.
They cant get minor berserk this easy like nightblade or get a garantued crit heal/damage like nb does with cloak.
Nightblade just performs better at everything and is still top 1 in pvp.
Stamden can get similar regen and also has a permanet damage bonus just by slotting AC skills and they have minor beserk.
Dk also has fossilize which also regens stam
Also isnt major defile easily obtaiable from bow and snb?
Having dots tick for at least 1/2 dmg while in cloak but not breaking cloak and removing minor maim from either shadow image or fear should suffice. Essentially nerfing nb defense0 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Colecovision wrote: »@Gnozo
What's your gear? What conditions apply to get those numbers? Is that effective weapon damage or actual? Also, what race?
Actually i am not allowed to go into any detail but basic sets are: Shackle, Truth and Master bow.
And these stats are fully fully buffed.
You can drop some damage for some more cancer by also using Trollking:
Group buffs? If so Im sure you can achieve similar numbers on other classes
No group buffs. Self buffed.
Dawnbreaker front bar? How many fighters guild?
No Dawnbreaker front, just normal setup tho.
Replace Siph Attacks with Poison Injecton
Infused 2h?
Nirn 2h but Infused Bow with Weapon Damage Enchant
6k weapon damage and 36k stam is obtainable by all classes and more as dk has minor brutality (10%) sorc has 2% per sorc ability templar has 6% more than nb except for for 1 attack from stealth at which nb is equal to dk. So the issue is initial tooltips
Edit sorc can also have 8% more stam and has 5% more physical damage
Sure they can obtain 6k weapon damage and 36k stam. Maybe even more they dont have the Tools to make proper use of it.
No class could get similiar Recovery like what i showed you, even tho if they could they are still missing strong tools like Cloak/Shadow Image and Major Defile Build into their Ultimate. Or an unblockable CC like fear wich also brings minor main on the Enemy if the Shadow havent already applied it.
They cant get minor berserk this easy like nightblade or get a garantued crit heal/damage like nb does with cloak.
Nightblade just performs better at everything and is still top 1 in pvp.
Stamden can get similar regen and also has a permanet damage bonus just by slotting AC skills and they have minor beserk.
Dk also has fossilize which also regens stam
Also isnt major defile easily obtaiable from bow and snb?
Having dots tick for at least 1/2 dmg while in cloak but not breaking cloak and removing minor maim from either shadow image or fear should suffice. Essentially nerfing nb defense
If a stamden aims for this amount of Regen he will loose a lot of Weapon damage. Also this damage boost only comes from slotting the skill. To get the buff on both bars you need to slot this useless Skill on both bars.
Relentless Focus in nowhere near useless. More Stam Regen, More Damage and a 31k Arrow after 4 Light attacks. 31k. Thats more then every instant damage ultimate in this game.
Sure, stamDK can slot Fossilize but needs to drop Reverb for this. Resulting in Loosing Major defile and also lowering his damage cause reverb also provides decent damage.
Easily obtainable from bow by "snipe". And i would call a 1 second cast time skill easily and fluid in your rotation. And tbh, nightblade is one of the few classes who can use bow really effective. I rarely see a StamDK or Stamden with a bow.
Sorcs are getting a penalty on streak if used within 5 seconds again. And the cost increase stacks. Thats completly exclusive for Sorcs and nightblades can just spam it and resetting the fight at will.
Invisibility > Streak.
Its sooo frustrating getting a Nightblade to 15% and finally getting ready for execute and then the Nightblade uses cloak, rally, gets a 10k Rally crit heal and is ready to continue fighting while his opponent is spamming AOE to reveal him
Detect Pots are BS tbh. Magelight doesnt work at all, how many times a nightblade cloak right infront of me while mage light was running or i was spamming it. An active mage light should also prevent nightblades from entering stealth but thats now how its working in game atm.
What can a X - Class do to find a cloaked nightblade?
MagSorc: Hope he can put Curse on him and wait for the Explosion
StamSorc: Stay close and hope for hurricane ticks
Magplar: Jabbing the air
Stamplar: Japping the air
StamDen: LOL, sub? Good joke
Magden: Same
StamDK: Spamming buggy Nox Breath or Vol Armor
MagDK: Spamming Vol Armor
So for a Nightblade it takes 1 cast of cloak and every other class needs to spam expensive skills to find him again while Nightblade prepares for the next ambush with incap or gets an 10k crit rally.
We need some serious Balancing in this. Atm the game isnt enjoyable at all. Balance is a joke, Lag is the hardest enemy, trials are more then broken, Groupfinder doesnt work at all (now with the event even more good, lol).
BUT! At least we get new crown crates in 7 days3 -
AllPlayAndNoWork✭✭✭✭✭Colecovision wrote: »@Gnozo
What's your gear? What conditions apply to get those numbers? Is that effective weapon damage or actual? Also, what race?
Actually i am not allowed to go into any detail but basic sets are: Shackle, Truth and Master bow.
And these stats are fully fully buffed.
You can drop some damage for some more cancer by also using Trollking:
Group buffs? If so Im sure you can achieve similar numbers on other classes
No group buffs. Self buffed.
Dawnbreaker front bar? How many fighters guild?
No Dawnbreaker front, just normal setup tho.
Replace Siph Attacks with Poison Injecton
Infused 2h?
Nirn 2h but Infused Bow with Weapon Damage Enchant
6k weapon damage and 36k stam is obtainable by all classes and more as dk has minor brutality (10%) sorc has 2% per sorc ability templar has 6% more than nb except for for 1 attack from stealth at which nb is equal to dk. So the issue is initial tooltips
Edit sorc can also have 8% more stam and has 5% more physical damage
Sure they can obtain 6k weapon damage and 36k stam. Maybe even more they dont have the Tools to make proper use of it.
No class could get similiar Recovery like what i showed you, even tho if they could they are still missing strong tools like Cloak/Shadow Image and Major Defile Build into their Ultimate. Or an unblockable CC like fear wich also brings minor main on the Enemy if the Shadow havent already applied it.
They cant get minor berserk this easy like nightblade or get a garantued crit heal/damage like nb does with cloak.
Nightblade just performs better at everything and is still top 1 in pvp.
Stamden can get similar regen and also has a permanet damage bonus just by slotting AC skills and they have minor beserk.
Dk also has fossilize which also regens stam
Also isnt major defile easily obtaiable from bow and snb?
Having dots tick for at least 1/2 dmg while in cloak but not breaking cloak and removing minor maim from either shadow image or fear should suffice. Essentially nerfing nb defense
If a stamden aims for this amount of Regen he will loose a lot of Weapon damage. Also this damage boost only comes from slotting the skill. To get the buff on both bars you need to slot this useless Skill on both bars.
Relentless Focus in nowhere near useless. More Stam Regen, More Damage and a 31k Arrow after 4 Light attacks. 31k. Thats more then every instant damage ultimate in this game.
Sure, stamDK can slot Fossilize but needs to drop Reverb for this. Resulting in Loosing Major defile and also lowering his damage cause reverb also provides decent damage.
Easily obtainable from bow by "snipe". And i would call a 1 second cast time skill easily and fluid in your rotation. And tbh, nightblade is one of the few classes who can use bow really effective. I rarely see a StamDK or Stamden with a bow.
Sorcs are getting a penalty on streak if used within 5 seconds again. And the cost increase stacks. Thats completly exclusive for Sorcs and nightblades can just spam it and resetting the fight at will.
Invisibility > Streak.
Its sooo frustrating getting a Nightblade to 15% and finally getting ready for execute and then the Nightblade uses cloak, rally, gets a 10k Rally crit heal and is ready to continue fighting while his opponent is spamming AOE to reveal him
Detect Pots are BS tbh. Magelight doesnt work at all, how many times a nightblade cloak right infront of me while mage light was running or i was spamming it. An active mage light should also prevent nightblades from entering stealth but thats now how its working in game atm.
What can a X - Class do to find a cloaked nightblade?
MagSorc: Hope he can put Curse on him and wait for the Explosion
StamSorc: Stay close and hope for hurricane ticks
Magplar: Jabbing the air
Stamplar: Japping the air
StamDen: LOL, sub? Good joke
Magden: Same
StamDK: Spamming buggy Nox Breath or Vol Armor
MagDK: Spamming Vol Armor
So for a Nightblade it takes 1 cast of cloak and every other class needs to spam expensive skills to find him again while Nightblade prepares for the next ambush with incap or gets an 10k crit rally.
We need some serious Balancing in this. Atm the game isnt enjoyable at all. Balance is a joke, Lag is the hardest enemy, trials are more then broken, Groupfinder doesnt work at all (now with the event even more good, lol).
BUT! At least we get new crown crates in 7 days
That's not true at all. There are loads of skills/abilities that can bring a NB out of stealth but like most players... CBA slotting them.... So its back to the forum moaning about it.....0 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭AllPlayAndNoWork wrote: »Colecovision wrote: »@Gnozo
What's your gear? What conditions apply to get those numbers? Is that effective weapon damage or actual? Also, what race?
Actually i am not allowed to go into any detail but basic sets are: Shackle, Truth and Master bow.
And these stats are fully fully buffed.
You can drop some damage for some more cancer by also using Trollking:
Group buffs? If so Im sure you can achieve similar numbers on other classes
No group buffs. Self buffed.
Dawnbreaker front bar? How many fighters guild?
No Dawnbreaker front, just normal setup tho.
Replace Siph Attacks with Poison Injecton
Infused 2h?
Nirn 2h but Infused Bow with Weapon Damage Enchant
6k weapon damage and 36k stam is obtainable by all classes and more as dk has minor brutality (10%) sorc has 2% per sorc ability templar has 6% more than nb except for for 1 attack from stealth at which nb is equal to dk. So the issue is initial tooltips
Edit sorc can also have 8% more stam and has 5% more physical damage
Sure they can obtain 6k weapon damage and 36k stam. Maybe even more they dont have the Tools to make proper use of it.
No class could get similiar Recovery like what i showed you, even tho if they could they are still missing strong tools like Cloak/Shadow Image and Major Defile Build into their Ultimate. Or an unblockable CC like fear wich also brings minor main on the Enemy if the Shadow havent already applied it.
They cant get minor berserk this easy like nightblade or get a garantued crit heal/damage like nb does with cloak.
Nightblade just performs better at everything and is still top 1 in pvp.
Stamden can get similar regen and also has a permanet damage bonus just by slotting AC skills and they have minor beserk.
Dk also has fossilize which also regens stam
Also isnt major defile easily obtaiable from bow and snb?
Having dots tick for at least 1/2 dmg while in cloak but not breaking cloak and removing minor maim from either shadow image or fear should suffice. Essentially nerfing nb defense
If a stamden aims for this amount of Regen he will loose a lot of Weapon damage. Also this damage boost only comes from slotting the skill. To get the buff on both bars you need to slot this useless Skill on both bars.
Relentless Focus in nowhere near useless. More Stam Regen, More Damage and a 31k Arrow after 4 Light attacks. 31k. Thats more then every instant damage ultimate in this game.
Sure, stamDK can slot Fossilize but needs to drop Reverb for this. Resulting in Loosing Major defile and also lowering his damage cause reverb also provides decent damage.
Easily obtainable from bow by "snipe". And i would call a 1 second cast time skill easily and fluid in your rotation. And tbh, nightblade is one of the few classes who can use bow really effective. I rarely see a StamDK or Stamden with a bow.
Sorcs are getting a penalty on streak if used within 5 seconds again. And the cost increase stacks. Thats completly exclusive for Sorcs and nightblades can just spam it and resetting the fight at will.
Invisibility > Streak.
Its sooo frustrating getting a Nightblade to 15% and finally getting ready for execute and then the Nightblade uses cloak, rally, gets a 10k Rally crit heal and is ready to continue fighting while his opponent is spamming AOE to reveal him
Detect Pots are BS tbh. Magelight doesnt work at all, how many times a nightblade cloak right infront of me while mage light was running or i was spamming it. An active mage light should also prevent nightblades from entering stealth but thats now how its working in game atm.
What can a X - Class do to find a cloaked nightblade?
MagSorc: Hope he can put Curse on him and wait for the Explosion
StamSorc: Stay close and hope for hurricane ticks
Magplar: Jabbing the air
Stamplar: Japping the air
StamDen: LOL, sub? Good joke
Magden: Same
StamDK: Spamming buggy Nox Breath or Vol Armor
MagDK: Spamming Vol Armor
So for a Nightblade it takes 1 cast of cloak and every other class needs to spam expensive skills to find him again while Nightblade prepares for the next ambush with incap or gets an 10k crit rally.
We need some serious Balancing in this. Atm the game isnt enjoyable at all. Balance is a joke, Lag is the hardest enemy, trials are more then broken, Groupfinder doesnt work at all (now with the event even more good, lol).
BUT! At least we get new crown crates in 7 days
That's not true at all. There are loads of skills/abilities that can bring a NB out of stealth but like most players... CBA slotting them.... So its back to the forum moaning about it.....
Sure, its not like 10 Skill and 2 Ultimate Slots offer me enough space to slot an skill just to counter nightblades.2 -
AllPlayAndNoWork✭✭✭✭✭AllPlayAndNoWork wrote: »Colecovision wrote: »@Gnozo
What's your gear? What conditions apply to get those numbers? Is that effective weapon damage or actual? Also, what race?
Actually i am not allowed to go into any detail but basic sets are: Shackle, Truth and Master bow.
And these stats are fully fully buffed.
You can drop some damage for some more cancer by also using Trollking:
Group buffs? If so Im sure you can achieve similar numbers on other classes
No group buffs. Self buffed.
Dawnbreaker front bar? How many fighters guild?
No Dawnbreaker front, just normal setup tho.
Replace Siph Attacks with Poison Injecton
Infused 2h?
Nirn 2h but Infused Bow with Weapon Damage Enchant
6k weapon damage and 36k stam is obtainable by all classes and more as dk has minor brutality (10%) sorc has 2% per sorc ability templar has 6% more than nb except for for 1 attack from stealth at which nb is equal to dk. So the issue is initial tooltips
Edit sorc can also have 8% more stam and has 5% more physical damage
Sure they can obtain 6k weapon damage and 36k stam. Maybe even more they dont have the Tools to make proper use of it.
No class could get similiar Recovery like what i showed you, even tho if they could they are still missing strong tools like Cloak/Shadow Image and Major Defile Build into their Ultimate. Or an unblockable CC like fear wich also brings minor main on the Enemy if the Shadow havent already applied it.
They cant get minor berserk this easy like nightblade or get a garantued crit heal/damage like nb does with cloak.
Nightblade just performs better at everything and is still top 1 in pvp.
Stamden can get similar regen and also has a permanet damage bonus just by slotting AC skills and they have minor beserk.
Dk also has fossilize which also regens stam
Also isnt major defile easily obtaiable from bow and snb?
Having dots tick for at least 1/2 dmg while in cloak but not breaking cloak and removing minor maim from either shadow image or fear should suffice. Essentially nerfing nb defense
If a stamden aims for this amount of Regen he will loose a lot of Weapon damage. Also this damage boost only comes from slotting the skill. To get the buff on both bars you need to slot this useless Skill on both bars.
Relentless Focus in nowhere near useless. More Stam Regen, More Damage and a 31k Arrow after 4 Light attacks. 31k. Thats more then every instant damage ultimate in this game.
Sure, stamDK can slot Fossilize but needs to drop Reverb for this. Resulting in Loosing Major defile and also lowering his damage cause reverb also provides decent damage.
Easily obtainable from bow by "snipe". And i would call a 1 second cast time skill easily and fluid in your rotation. And tbh, nightblade is one of the few classes who can use bow really effective. I rarely see a StamDK or Stamden with a bow.
Sorcs are getting a penalty on streak if used within 5 seconds again. And the cost increase stacks. Thats completly exclusive for Sorcs and nightblades can just spam it and resetting the fight at will.
Invisibility > Streak.
Its sooo frustrating getting a Nightblade to 15% and finally getting ready for execute and then the Nightblade uses cloak, rally, gets a 10k Rally crit heal and is ready to continue fighting while his opponent is spamming AOE to reveal him
Detect Pots are BS tbh. Magelight doesnt work at all, how many times a nightblade cloak right infront of me while mage light was running or i was spamming it. An active mage light should also prevent nightblades from entering stealth but thats now how its working in game atm.
What can a X - Class do to find a cloaked nightblade?
MagSorc: Hope he can put Curse on him and wait for the Explosion
StamSorc: Stay close and hope for hurricane ticks
Magplar: Jabbing the air
Stamplar: Japping the air
StamDen: LOL, sub? Good joke
Magden: Same
StamDK: Spamming buggy Nox Breath or Vol Armor
MagDK: Spamming Vol Armor
So for a Nightblade it takes 1 cast of cloak and every other class needs to spam expensive skills to find him again while Nightblade prepares for the next ambush with incap or gets an 10k crit rally.
We need some serious Balancing in this. Atm the game isnt enjoyable at all. Balance is a joke, Lag is the hardest enemy, trials are more then broken, Groupfinder doesnt work at all (now with the event even more good, lol).
BUT! At least we get new crown crates in 7 days
That's not true at all. There are loads of skills/abilities that can bring a NB out of stealth but like most players... CBA slotting them.... So its back to the forum moaning about it.....
Sure, its not like 10 Skill and 2 Ultimate Slots offer me enough space to slot an skill just to counter nightblades.
But they are there and you can.... you just don't want to.... cake and eat it syndrome.1 -
Rukzadlithau✭✭✭✭The players carried by stamblade did so well to convince the community that it is actually hard to play or lacking in some department. Hats off, really.
And shame on us, the idiots that believed balance should be nominal.1 -
Ragnaroek93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Good luck with maintaining 6k wpndmg for more than 3 seconds. We don't see your whole setup and I guess it's done with continues attacks as well, you can make any class looking OP with this. God, you're a good player afaik, at least be reasonableColecovision wrote: »@Gnozo
What's your gear? What conditions apply to get those numbers? Is that effective weapon damage or actual? Also, what race?
Actually i am not allowed to go into any detail but basic sets are: Shackle, Truth and Master bow.
And these stats are fully fully buffed.
You can drop some damage for some more cancer by also using Trollking:
lol... will create a sorc template on PTS and make a screen as well as soon as I get bored enough (ofc with continues attacks, BSW proc, glyph proc and whatever)...I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.0 -
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✭✭ZarkingFrued wrote: »Nightblades are quite balenced. Other classes need buffs, some more than others. NB's used to be reguarded as trash not too long ago, and they can be quite tough to get used to.
What are you talking about? Nightblade has been God since the game dropped. I love how you say Nightblade is balanced. First you deny that NB is OP, then say other classes need buffs to be in line with it. What planet are you from?
Nightblades are balanced. They have great sustain, damage and group utility. Other classes have been brought down too far and need to be buffed. Nightblades are only considered OP because they're more viable in a lot of situations and replaced the other classes in endgame content. They took a hit on tanking.
I remember when Nightblades were gods, but people still had difficulty using them. I used to use one in pvp because it was my main.Edited by D0PAMINE on November 29, 2018 10:31PM1 -
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✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Good luck with maintaining 6k wpndmg for more than 3 seconds. We don't see your whole setup and I guess it's done with continues attacks as well, you can make any class looking OP with this. God, you're a good player afaik, at least be reasonableColecovision wrote: »@Gnozo
What's your gear? What conditions apply to get those numbers? Is that effective weapon damage or actual? Also, what race?
Actually i am not allowed to go into any detail but basic sets are: Shackle, Truth and Master bow.
And these stats are fully fully buffed.
You can drop some damage for some more cancer by also using Trollking:
lol... will create a sorc template on PTS and make a screen as well as soon as I get bored enough (ofc with continues attacks, BSW proc, glyph proc and whatever)...
Tbh, without con. Attack the weapon damage is still pretty high.
And the uptime on the rest is kinda easy:
Light attack, poison injection gives you your glyph proc and master bow proc. Then barswap while dodge rolling to make use of tactican for truth proc. Every dodge roll will proc it Thanks to our glorious light attack spammer. Thats easy more then 1000 weapon damage generated in under 2 seconds. Wich doesnt rely on rng or some hard to get proc condition.
Then you go in for the kill with more then 4.5k weapon damage. If you have then con. Attack..... wow, see ya.....
And all this with 3k recovery, 1.1k mag recovery.
2800 stam and about 1k without con. Attack.
Some ppl die only from heavy attack, incap execute. 1 heavy, 1 ult 1Euro skill.
Dont get me wrong, I like to play stamblade but i also like the other classes and its just awkward on how overperforming stamblade can be in the hand of a semi good player.0 -
NightAngel690✭✭✭Not trying to start a fight here but seeing as I main a stamblade yes they can be cheese if the person builds them right but there are classes that are worse the nbs. An example of this would be any sort of Templar. Templars are worse than stam or magblades as they have multiple roles that they can play all at once. They can out tank most classes(minus dk), they are the best healers in game as they’ve have a high burst self heal and still throw out a high damage output by using the following:
A) Mag route. The standard magpla rotation consists of Cleanse, Spear, a meteor while jabbing and then maybe a Jesus beam just for good measures. if you try to pressure them, they just use a BoL or two and then instantly back up to full health. A magblade can do a lot of single target burst damage but since the nerf to the healing ward, it’s very hard for them to heal. Yes swallow soul does heal but not as much as a BoL. In the end, all it takes is one cc and they’re dead. A buddy of mine mains a tanky magplar while I main a sap tank while we 2vX. Sure I can out sustain most people but I like he high burst damage he has on his Templar.
stam route. cleanse (to slow you down and act as a heal) dbos and then again jab you to death. These stamplars are most likely running fury or 7th legion and ravager which procs on each jab. Nbs only have a single target damage that and their skills make it a little more difficult to keep ravager up. The only other route you can do is 7th legion, troll king, and something like bp or shacklebreaker. Again, nice sustain but the damage comes from how long you can sustain as opposed to medium builds. For the medium ganker, it’s all about burst damage. The majority of gankers only have about 35k stamina which is used up pretty quickly. As for the infinite roll-dodge, I think I can only get up to 4 maybe 5 roll dodges in before I’m completely out of stamina which means I couldn’t even tickle you even if I wanted to. Mix this in with the constant cloaking(3 times or 5 on Max stat) and I’m as useful as an ice cube in a pit of lava. If you’re having troubles with snipe, it’s probably because you need more cp into break free reduction and make sure you have enough stam 0 -
NightAngel690✭✭✭the other thing I forgot to mention is be sure to keep your shields up. Myself personally, I time the shields from the moment you put it up to the second it drops and i shoot just before and since most sorcs are under 21k health and little resistances, it’s super easy to burst them down.0
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Ragnaroek93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Good luck with maintaining 6k wpndmg for more than 3 seconds. We don't see your whole setup and I guess it's done with continues attacks as well, you can make any class looking OP with this. God, you're a good player afaik, at least be reasonableColecovision wrote: »@Gnozo
What's your gear? What conditions apply to get those numbers? Is that effective weapon damage or actual? Also, what race?
Actually i am not allowed to go into any detail but basic sets are: Shackle, Truth and Master bow.
And these stats are fully fully buffed.
You can drop some damage for some more cancer by also using Trollking:
lol... will create a sorc template on PTS and make a screen as well as soon as I get bored enough (ofc with continues attacks, BSW proc, glyph proc and whatever)...
Tbh, without con. Attack the weapon damage is still pretty high.
And the uptime on the rest is kinda easy:
Light attack, poison injection gives you your glyph proc and master bow proc. Then barswap while dodge rolling to make use of tactican for truth proc. Every dodge roll will proc it Thanks to our glorious light attack spammer. Thats easy more then 1000 weapon damage generated in under 2 seconds. Wich doesnt rely on rng or some hard to get proc condition.
Then you go in for the kill with more then 4.5k weapon damage. If you have then con. Attack..... wow, see ya.....
And all this with 3k recovery, 1.1k mag recovery.
2800 stam and about 1k without con. Attack.
Some ppl die only from heavy attack, incap execute. 1 heavy, 1 ult 1Euro skill.
Dont get me wrong, I like to play stamblade but i also like the other classes and its just awkward on how overperforming stamblade can be in the hand of a semi good player.
Continues Attacks boosts your stats up by 50%, not just "a bit more dmg". If stamnb would be so OP they wouldn't have lost in the last tournament so hard. Can we actually stop with this nonsense or do I have to create a sorc template with con attacks, potion buff, vampire regen buff etc and make a high dmg build look like it would be a sustain build? Because without all your buffs your regen, especially the mag regen part, wouldn't be impressive at all. You would just get toasted as soon as Cloak doesn't work (I agree tho that Cloak is stupid but if you take it away there needs to be a replacement for it).
I've played with Truth by myself and the set had a pityful uptime, even before the nerfs to dodge, you'd probably do much better by just replacing it with Spriggans.I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.0 -
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✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Good luck with maintaining 6k wpndmg for more than 3 seconds. We don't see your whole setup and I guess it's done with continues attacks as well, you can make any class looking OP with this. God, you're a good player afaik, at least be reasonableColecovision wrote: »@Gnozo
What's your gear? What conditions apply to get those numbers? Is that effective weapon damage or actual? Also, what race?
Actually i am not allowed to go into any detail but basic sets are: Shackle, Truth and Master bow.
And these stats are fully fully buffed.
You can drop some damage for some more cancer by also using Trollking:
lol... will create a sorc template on PTS and make a screen as well as soon as I get bored enough (ofc with continues attacks, BSW proc, glyph proc and whatever)...
Tbh, without con. Attack the weapon damage is still pretty high.
And the uptime on the rest is kinda easy:
Light attack, poison injection gives you your glyph proc and master bow proc. Then barswap while dodge rolling to make use of tactican for truth proc. Every dodge roll will proc it Thanks to our glorious light attack spammer. Thats easy more then 1000 weapon damage generated in under 2 seconds. Wich doesnt rely on rng or some hard to get proc condition.
Then you go in for the kill with more then 4.5k weapon damage. If you have then con. Attack..... wow, see ya.....
And all this with 3k recovery, 1.1k mag recovery.
2800 stam and about 1k without con. Attack.
Some ppl die only from heavy attack, incap execute. 1 heavy, 1 ult 1Euro skill.
Dont get me wrong, I like to play stamblade but i also like the other classes and its just awkward on how overperforming stamblade can be in the hand of a semi good player.
Continues Attacks boosts your stats up by 50%, not just "a bit more dmg". If stamnb would be so OP they wouldn't have lost in the last tournament so hard. Can we actually stop with this nonsense or do I have to create a sorc template with con attacks, potion buff, vampire regen buff etc and make a high dmg build look like it would be a sustain build? Because without all your buffs your regen, especially the mag regen part, wouldn't be impressive at all. You would just get toasted as soon as Cloak doesn't work (I agree tho that Cloak is stupid but if you take it away there needs to be a replacement for it).
I've played with Truth by myself and the set had a pityful uptime, even before the nerfs to dodge, you'd probably do much better by just replacing it with Spriggans.
50%?
"Increases Weapon and Spell Damage by 10% and Magicka and Stamina Recovery by 20% for 10 minutes after capturing a Lumber Mill, Farm, Mine, or Keep."
Cant See any 50% here tbh. And potion buff has a 100% with alchemy passive so still about 900 mag recovery.2 -
MokiDono✭✭✭Illuvatarr wrote: »I have been playing mmos for 20 years. I have never seen a more cheese class than nightblades. I have also never played a pvp mmo where the highest burst damage class in the game can continually turn invisible in a fight. It’s silly. I get beaten by better players who are nightblades without using sneak in combat. I am cool with that. The ability to use it in combat is pure cheese and completely imbalanced. It needs to be changed.
In those 20 years, you never played SWTOR? Lethality Operative, Deception Assassin classes, no?
To be honest, I would be disappointed if there were no gank stealth classes in an MMO which can annihilate you in a GCD or two. Granted, the whole open world pvp setting does not cater towards this because you can't respawn close by, but still... these classes were a stable for many MMO experience for a long time."Your courage... your power... are not completely insignificant. Perhaps you can be made to serve. Do not fight. Do not resist. Give yourselves over now, or be destroyed."0