Thannazzar wrote: »Add them to your ignore list before you vote kick. 12 months of that policy and I see 1 fake tank in about 50 pugs.
Thannazzar wrote: »Add them to your ignore list before you vote kick. 12 months of that policy and I see 1 fake tank in about 50 pugs.
GF won't put you with people on your ignore list?
oxygen_thief wrote: »why do you need a tank or a healer in normal dungeon?
oxygen_thief wrote: »why do you need a tank or a healer in normal dungeon?
And then there are those who complain you're a fake when you don't taunt the final boss in Darkshade II.
oxygen_thief wrote: »why do you need a tank or a healer in normal dungeon?
VaranisArano wrote: »oxygen_thief wrote: »why do you need a tank or a healer in normal dungeon?
I'd like to second everything that Lasinagol said.
But also, when I'm on my healer in normal dungeons, there are often new players or completely utterly squishy DDs in the party. Sometimes the fake tank is the completely squishy one. Those players inevitably need more attention from the healer and it makes my job a lot harder when I have a super squishy player AND I have to deal with boss aggro because there's a fake tank who's refusing to hold aggro. Sure my healer can handle the boss since I know the boss mechanics from when I tank, but its really annoying to be forced to do so in addition to my the job I actually queued for because the fake tank cant be bothered.
oxygen_thief wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »oxygen_thief wrote: »why do you need a tank or a healer in normal dungeon?
I'd like to second everything that Lasinagol said.
But also, when I'm on my healer in normal dungeons, there are often new players or completely utterly squishy DDs in the party. Sometimes the fake tank is the completely squishy one. Those players inevitably need more attention from the healer and it makes my job a lot harder when I have a super squishy player AND I have to deal with boss aggro because there's a fake tank who's refusing to hold aggro. Sure my healer can handle the boss since I know the boss mechanics from when I tank, but its really annoying to be forced to do so in addition to my the job I actually queued for because the fake tank cant be bothered.
healer is not needed in dungeons at all. even vet dlc its better to do with warden healbot and three dds as for me. in normal you are just wasting your time when you trying to support fake dds and tanks. what for? they are pretty useless. its better to deal good damage to the boss.
VaranisArano wrote: »I'm trying to keep them alive in between doing damage to the boss.
MooseKnuckles88 wrote: »I pug up about +90% of the time when I run dungeons and out of that I would say I'm experiencing 1 out 3 that include fake tanks queued in. Some even admit to being a fake tank at the start or mid run. I usually don't care until the entire group starts to expect me to lead the charge the whole way. I only have 16.5k health, but I can only take a beating so much and at that point it gets annoying. How often do you experience the fake tanks in your queues?
VaranisArano wrote: »...
And strangely enough, I do think that healers ought to keep their group members alive...
oxygen_thief wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »I'm trying to keep them alive in between doing damage to the boss.
its better to kill the boss faster to ease their life
Nothing beats the group I got last night, Spindleclutch 2 normal to get the skillpoint I had missed. The first room of trash takes over a minute to get cleared so since I'm not a fan of taking forever to finish a dungeon I decide to take a gander at my teammates; tank is a DK with a Bow and Resto staff with no taunt slotted, one dps is a Bow/DW NB who never swapped to DW and the other dps is a magblade who somehow did virtually no damage. About 10 minutes go by and we still haven't made much progress since not only did they have pitiful damage output their survivability wasn't any better.
Then they showed just how brilliant they were by accusing me of being a bad healer because two of them died while I had over 20 adds trying their best to murder me, the best part of it all was when the DK tried to claim he was doing more healing than me (guy must be mainling skooma if he thinks he gets anywhere near the leveling of healing my warden outputs). So I said fine then heal for the next fight, they're all dead within 3 seconds then get to watch me slowly whittle the mobs down with Blockade and Refreshing Path while typing to reply to their foolishness the entire time. I just up and left after that since there's no point wasting my time with players who are complete and utter garbage and are so ignorant that they don't even realize it.
Nothing beats the group I got last night, Spindleclutch 2 normal to get the skillpoint I had missed. The first room of trash takes over a minute to get cleared so since I'm not a fan of taking forever to finish a dungeon I decide to take a gander at my teammates; tank is a DK with a Bow and Resto staff with no taunt slotted, one dps is a Bow/DW NB who never swapped to DW and the other dps is a magblade who somehow did virtually no damage. About 10 minutes go by and we still haven't made much progress since not only did they have pitiful damage output their survivability wasn't any better.
Then they showed just how brilliant they were by accusing me of being a bad healer because two of them died while I had over 20 adds trying their best to murder me, the best part of it all was when the DK tried to claim he was doing more healing than me (guy must be mainling skooma if he thinks he gets anywhere near the leveling of healing my warden outputs). So I said fine then heal for the next fight, they're all dead within 3 seconds then get to watch me slowly whittle the mobs down with Blockade and Refreshing Path while typing to reply to their foolishness the entire time. I just up and left after that since there's no point wasting my time with players who are complete and utter garbage and are so ignorant that they don't even realize it.
Thannazzar wrote: »Add them to your ignore list before you vote kick. 12 months of that policy and I see 1 fake tank in about 50 pugs.