Silver_Strider wrote: »I'm done with Fake Tanks. If I see a Tank with dual wield/bow and less than 18k health, I just immediately vote kick cause it's not worth the aggravation anymore.
I don't care that you are new to the game, that is all the more reason to NOT queue up for a vet dungeon that you've never done, even on normal mode, and have 0 understanding of what that role symbol by your name means. Call me an elitist jerk all you want, I'm not the one that is going to encourage your selfish behavior and anyone that defends that type of ignorance is NOT doing them any favors.
The worst are the noob whiners who run spindleclutch, fungal grotto and other easy dungeons, then complain when they don't realize it's easier and faster to just burn through it with 3~4 dps. The whole dungeon finder setup is stupid. Some of us are capped and just running a random daily to level up a new toon. Why should we be forced to sit in que for 10 mins to infinity? OMG THE TANK ISNT TAUNTING IM TAKING SOME DAMAGE OMG OMG I CANT STAND IN PLACE OR ROLL AROUND LIKE AN IDIOT TAKING 10 MINUTES TO KILL A MOB
Ran vet Darkshade 2 for daily. See the tank is 752 cp and has s&b on. Think "Alright, this is going to work."
First pack of mobs...running wild. Aggro all over the map. Burn them down and think "eh, first pull..no big deal."
Get to first boss..the one who rotates spraying fire. Tank only focus is the boss...mobs running wild. After first boss is down, type in chat..."Tank, you need a taunt or this isn't going to work."....no reply.
Next pack of mobs...yep...Running wild. Healer goes down..tank goes down...tank says in chat..."poor healing, thanks alot"...I reply "Healer was dead from aggro...your job to keep it.."...no reply from tank.
Next boss, the 3 Dino looking things you need to kill at the same time. Explained this before fight. Tank response is "I KNOW!" OK...
You guessed it....running wild. All separate. Tank running in a circle around one, and only one, boss.
Think of how horrible the Netch boss is going to be with this tank.
Type in chat "It's too early for this, I'm out"
If you're going to tank a vet dungeon, it's very simple. Be a tank, take aggro and do the job you signed up for.
Complaining about fake healers or DD isn't for this topic, start your own thread. Anyone here defending fake tanking is a fake tank trying to defend $h!t behavior. You want a DD as a tank, stop queuing for a pug and start your own group...do any role you want. If you're using group finder, be who you say you are. Stop being sh!ty.
StamWhipCultist wrote: »Ran vet Darkshade 2 for daily. See the tank is 752 cp and has s&b on. Think "Alright, this is going to work."
First pack of mobs...running wild. Aggro all over the map. Burn them down and think "eh, first pull..no big deal."
Get to first boss..the one who rotates spraying fire. Tank only focus is the boss...mobs running wild. After first boss is down, type in chat..."Tank, you need a taunt or this isn't going to work."....no reply.
Next pack of mobs...yep...Running wild. Healer goes down..tank goes down...tank says in chat..."poor healing, thanks alot"...I reply "Healer was dead from aggro...your job to keep it.."...no reply from tank.
Next boss, the 3 Dino looking things you need to kill at the same time. Explained this before fight. Tank response is "I KNOW!" OK...
You guessed it....running wild. All separate. Tank running in a circle around one, and only one, boss.
Think of how horrible the Netch boss is going to be with this tank.
Type in chat "It's too early for this, I'm out"
If you're going to tank a vet dungeon, it's very simple. Be a tank, take aggro and do the job you signed up for.
Complaining about fake healers or DD isn't for this topic, start your own thread. Anyone here defending fake tanking is a fake tank trying to defend $h!t behavior. You want a DD as a tank, stop queuing for a pug and start your own group...do any role you want. If you're using group finder, be who you say you are. Stop being sh!ty.
About bosses - u can aggro them and that is fine. But if you really think someone may keep aggro on 15 mobs you pretty much never played a tank.
Well, tank keeps aggro on the boss while chaining all ranged mobs. Then talons. Balancing back magicka. Getting healed to ocmpensate.StamWhipCultist wrote: »About bosses - u can aggro them and that is fine. But if you really think someone may keep aggro on 15 mobs you pretty much never played a tank.
Ran vet Darkshade 2 for daily. See the tank is 752 cp and has s&b on. Think "Alright, this is going to work."
First pack of mobs...running wild. Aggro all over the map. Burn them down and think "eh, first pull..no big deal."
Get to first boss..the one who rotates spraying fire. Tank only focus is the boss...mobs running wild. After first boss is down, type in chat..."Tank, you need a taunt or this isn't going to work."....no reply.
Next pack of mobs...yep...Running wild. Healer goes down..tank goes down...tank says in chat..."poor healing, thanks alot"...I reply "Healer was dead from aggro...your job to keep it.."...no reply from tank.
Next boss, the 3 Dino looking things you need to kill at the same time. Explained this before fight. Tank response is "I KNOW!" OK...
You guessed it....running wild. All separate. Tank running in a circle around one, and only one, boss.
Think of how horrible the Netch boss is going to be with this tank.
Type in chat "It's too early for this, I'm out" Re-queue after my deserter timer, get a real tank, finish the dungeon with zero deaths and zero aggro issues. Much eaiser.
If you're going to tank a vet dungeon, it's very simple. Be a tank, take aggro and do the job you signed up for.
Complaining about fake healers or DD isn't for this topic, start your own thread. Anyone here defending fake tanking is a fake tank trying to defend $h!t behavior. You want a DD as a tank, stop queuing for a pug and start your own group...do any role you want. If you're using group finder, be who you say you are. Stop being sh!ty.
I hate fake yanks as much as the next guy. But, you don’t seem to be understand tanking in ESO. As tank you only aggro the boss and other particularly hard hitting mobs.
Yeah you try to round up the mobs when not on a boss. But when on a boss, unless the other mobs will oneshot the dps, that’s not your job. The DPS are supposed to burn them down, particularly if they go after the healer.
And as a general service, you should probably know that if somone dies, it’s also the dps job to be the first to try to Rez them. Not the healer or the tank.
Dps in this game have to do more than tunnel down the boss.
Wouldn't the simple solution be forr tanks and healers to queue as DDs
Only kidding ....
What I'm thinking is the game has a skill advisor for your build, why not auto assign rolls based on those skills on your bar, if you try to remove a skill for a roll your given in a dungeon the game puts an auto vote to kick for changing rolls and asks the group they can decide if they want to kick fir a new player to fit that roll or continue to run with the now altered group
Wouldn't the simple solution be forr tanks and healers to queue as DDs
Only kidding ....
What I'm thinking is the game has a skill advisor for your build, why not auto assign rolls based on those skills on your bar, if you try to remove a skill for a roll your given in a dungeon the game puts an auto vote to kick for changing rolls and asks the group they can decide if they want to kick fir a new player to fit that roll or continue to run with the now altered group
Wouldn't the simple solution be forr tanks and healers to queue as DDs
Only kidding ....
What I'm thinking is the game has a skill advisor for your build, why not auto assign rolls based on those skills on your bar, if you try to remove a skill for a roll your given in a dungeon the game puts an auto vote to kick for changing rolls and asks the group they can decide if they want to kick fir a new player to fit that roll or continue to run with the now altered group
oxygen_thief wrote: »why do you need a tank or a healer in normal dungeon?
As a Real tank, i have a hard time actually finding a Healer who is a healer. I once got a Nightblade "Healer" on vet Darkshade 2, then complained when people were dying.
The worst are the noob whiners who run spindleclutch, fungal grotto and other easy dungeons, then complain when they don't realize it's easier and faster to just burn through it with 3~4 dps. The whole dungeon finder setup is stupid. Some of us are capped and just running a random daily to level up a new toon. Why should we be forced to sit in que for 10 mins to infinity? OMG THE TANK ISNT TAUNTING IM TAKING SOME DAMAGE OMG OMG I CANT STAND IN PLACE OR ROLL AROUND LIKE AN IDIOT TAKING 10 MINUTES TO KILL A MOB
I’m sorry, just did just say random daily. So you could quite easily get dlc. Your typing in caps to try and excuse your toxic behaviour.
Your attitude is part of the problem. You may be capped but if your pugging and choosing randoms, you can’t guarantee the other players are capped, that they don’t want an actual tank (your making the choice for them) and you can’t guarantee that you don’t screw over the whole group by getting dlc.
But so long as you don’t have to wait 10 mins that’s ok isn’t it?
The worst are the noob whiners who run spindleclutch, fungal grotto and other easy dungeons, then complain when they don't realize it's easier and faster to just burn through it with 3~4 dps. The whole dungeon finder setup is stupid. Some of us are capped and just running a random daily to level up a new toon. Why should we be forced to sit in que for 10 mins to infinity? OMG THE TANK ISNT TAUNTING IM TAKING SOME DAMAGE OMG OMG I CANT STAND IN PLACE OR ROLL AROUND LIKE AN IDIOT TAKING 10 MINUTES TO KILL A MOB
I’m sorry, just did just say random daily. So you could quite easily get dlc. Your typing in caps to try and excuse your toxic behaviour.
Your attitude is part of the problem. You may be capped but if your pugging and choosing randoms, you can’t guarantee the other players are capped, that they don’t want an actual tank (your making the choice for them) and you can’t guarantee that you don’t screw over the whole group by getting dlc.
But so long as you don’t have to wait 10 mins that’s ok isn’t it?
To you my attitude may seem part of the problem, but to me you are part of the problem. How exactly is the group "screwed over" by having someone who is actually capped with full CP, doing massive damage and finishing the dungeon faster? Blame z0$ and stop blaming those of us who have put more time and effort into the game. We all get screwed by z0$ because they are too lazy and or incompetent to redesign and add more options to the group-finder. You shouldn't have to group with a tank who doesn't taunt if you don't desire it. Likewise others shouldn't have to listen to noobs complain like idiots or be kicked from dungeons due to noob ignorance. Stop spamming light attacks and maybe you won't taunt the boss so much.
I should wait for a lengthy period of time or perhaps not get a group at all, just for a normal random daily? Most of them barely take 10 or 15 minutes to complete. Its ludicrous that anyone need wait the same length or longer for a dungeon we already ran dozens if not hundreds of times. Not like the loot is even worth anything below 160cp. I find most noobs in this game incredibly dimwitted. Play your roll and stop whining like little girls. If you're running vet, or a more difficult dlc dungeon, then sure, a fake tank should drop out. Whining about most of the dungeons is downright petty. Try MapleStory or Mincraft instead.
oxygen_thief wrote: »why do you need a tank or a healer in normal dungeon?
oxygen_thief wrote: »why do you need a tank or a healer in normal dungeon?
jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »Thannazzar wrote: »Add them to your ignore list before you vote kick. 12 months of that policy and I see 1 fake tank in about 50 pugs.
Unfortunately that does not work on the consoles. Plus, the list is limited, so that at some point yo uadd one and another one is removed.