Banker and Merchant assistant cost too much - READ the OP before you comment

Lysette · August 2018

One change which would be nice is to make these assistants non-colliders. some people tend to "park" their assistants in entrance ways, where a bigger character cannot pass through then - well, my bosmers can, but they are tiny compared.

Indigo_Shade · August 2018

I got the Banker pretty early on. With 10 full character slots, it's a quality of life improvement.

I just bought the banker for a friend, after buying a huge chunk of crowns during the current sale. He is floored at how useful the Banker is, as he's been hording his freebie ESO+ crowns and was looking at another 2 months before he had enough for the Banker. 24 hours after getting the Banker, he was like OMG I should have done this already. And he only has 2 toons.

I'd venture to say that until you actually GET and USE the Banker, it's not easy to see how useful they can be.

Oh and, if you are heavy daily writs player, doing writs with multiple toons...the Banker is your best friend.

Lysette · August 2018

Indigo_Shade wrote: »

I got the Banker pretty early on. With 10 full character slots, it's a quality of life improvement.

I just bought the banker for a friend, after buying a huge chunk of crowns during the current sale. He is floored at how useful the Banker is, as he's been hording his freebie ESO+ crowns and was looking at another 2 months before he had enough for the Banker. 24 hours after getting the Banker, he was like OMG I should have done this already. And he only has 2 toons.

I'd venture to say that until you actually GET and USE the Banker, it's not easy to see how useful they can be.

Oh and, if you are heavy daily writs player, doing writs with multiple toons...the Banker is your best friend.

Absolutely and even better with active ESO+ - this is so essential, that I will buy the banker on PC NA as well - even I have just 2 characters there so far - but I am really missing the banker.

SakuraRush · August 2018

So the whole of the OPs argument is "I want it but I don't want to pay. ZoS is greedy for wanting me to pay."? Because that sure is how it sounds.

And to be clear if a company wanting you to pay more for something makes them greedy then you wanting to pay less makes you greedy.

Would you do your job for less money, sell your goods a much lower price because people didn't want to pay for them? Unlikely.

Easily_Lost · August 2018

Lysette wrote: »

Easily_Lost wrote: »

One thing I have noticed in this discussion is they want the Merchant to repair armour. Why would you pay to have you armour repaired? I have so many Grand Repair Kits ( like 500+ and counting ).
Just asking the question.

Ease of use - I have plenty repair kits as well, but it is easier to just press E and get it done.

I forgot about having to manually repair you armour. Being on PC I have an addon that automatically repairs armour when it gets too damaged. My bad.

Lysette · August 2018

Easily_Lost wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Easily_Lost wrote: »

One thing I have noticed in this discussion is they want the Merchant to repair armour. Why would you pay to have you armour repaired? I have so many Grand Repair Kits ( like 500+ and counting ).
Just asking the question.

Ease of use - I have plenty repair kits as well, but it is easier to just press E and get it done.

I forgot about having to manually repair you armour. Being on PC I have an addon that automatically repairs armour when it gets too damaged. My bad.

I am not using any add-ons - I did earlier, but I got tired of having to update them with every major patch. so I play without them and guess what, I pay much more attention to what is happening on the screen instead to look at HUD elements.

Well, this is a general thing for me now - I tend to play most games now with minimal hud.

Sevalaricgirl · August 2018

Easily_Lost wrote: »

Sevalaricgirl wrote: »

Actually, this one I agree with. I think they are priced way too high, almost as high as some of the medium homes which is ridiculous. They should be the price of a mount, at least 2K less.

When you say 2K Crowns or less, do you mean what it cost cash wise. If its what it cost cash wise I only paid 2500 Crowns for my Banker ( bought Crowns when they were 50% off ).

I said 2K less not or less. That means 3000 crowns. Plus, I doubt you'll ever see 50% off on crowns again.

Apherius · August 2018

Who care, you can buy crown store items with gold now, they said it's OK.

MehrunesFlagon · August 2018

Lysette wrote: »

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

firedrgn wrote: »

And your probably typing the op on a 1000 dollar cell phone. Just saying

wrote it on my gaming rig. My phone was a free upgrade tho.

I guess most of us do not buy smart phones, but get them for free with the contract.

Don't own one,Don't need one and definitely don't want one.

MehrunesFlagon · August 2018

SakuraRush wrote: »

So the whole of the OPs argument is "I want it but I don't want to pay. ZoS is greedy for wanting me to pay."? Because that sure is how it sounds.

And to be clear if a company wanting you to pay more for something makes them greedy then you wanting to pay less makes you greedy.

Would you do your job for less money, sell your goods a much lower price because people didn't want to pay for them? Unlikely.

This is more of a Rich people ruining things for everyone that isn't rich thing,which they do.

Darkdex · August 2018

I usually dont spend real money on micro-transactions because i can't afford them, so I farmed plenty of gold (1 Mill) and asked someone to gift me both merchant and banker.

Totally worth it.

Even if the merchant can't repair and the banker doesnt have access to guild bank, the utility they bring while farming, raiding, running dungeons, trading, questing and managing the account is superb.

Edit for spelling.

warldcharacterb14_ESO · August 2018

I guess people think because it is free to play after you buy the base game that there are no bills for ZOS to play. If no one spent money then the game would not exist. Another self entitled but mom......... post. I payed a sub for another game for 12 years and never looked back one time and thought why. The company has to make money so it will be around for us to play. End of discussion.

Sylvermynx · August 2018

Well, you know.... it's less than five minutes to wayshrine to Alinor, hit the bank, then wayshrine to where you were. I'm not for buying either one of the assistants until they come with the rest of the benefits.... especially the repair function on the merchant.

Sevalaricgirl · August 2018

Apherius wrote: »

Who care, you can buy crown store items with gold now, they said it's OK.

I don't know about you or anyone else but amidst my 6 characters, I probably have around 20K gold. That isn't going to buy anything. I don't belong to a trading guild and respecs are damned expensive.
.

Lysette · August 2018

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

firedrgn wrote: »

And your probably typing the op on a 1000 dollar cell phone. Just saying

wrote it on my gaming rig. My phone was a free upgrade tho.

I guess most of us do not buy smart phones, but get them for free with the contract.

Don't own one,Don't need one and definitely don't want one.

That is fine, I discovered as well, that there is new value in not being easily reachable - I use it to communicate when I want and not when other would want to force their communication needs on me - so not many have my number.

Sylvermynx · August 2018

Sevalaricgirl wrote: »

Apherius wrote: »

Who care, you can buy crown store items with gold now, they said it's OK.

I don't know about you or anyone else but amidst my 6 characters, I probably have around 20K gold. That isn't going to buy anything. I don't belong to a trading guild and respecs are damned expensive.
.

Ouch.... I've got 10 girls, one of whom is relegated to "main crafter" (because she's a stamblade, and with my lag that's just not really a viable class). I've got at least a couple of k gold on each of them, and 75k in the bank - because of doing all the crafting writs on the main crafter. Yep, I could do all the writs on all the others.... but that's not how I want to spend my time in game.... but if I did go there, I'd have a lot more gold.

Then again, so far I don't have much to spend it on anyway.

Lysette · August 2018

Sevalaricgirl wrote: »

Apherius wrote: »

Who care, you can buy crown store items with gold now, they said it's OK.

I don't know about you or anyone else but amidst my 6 characters, I probably have around 20K gold. That isn't going to buy anything. I don't belong to a trading guild and respecs are damned expensive.
.

When a new big patch comes out, there is often a short period of a few days, were you can respec for just a few gold.

elijafire · August 2018

Skwor wrote: »

No they are not. They are a luxury item. Thier is no need for them at all in the game. Such items should cost a premium. I would see them cost even more.

^ This. I offered to pay 50 bucks for a mobile vendor before the game went buy to play and I recon 5k crowns is a deal. Don't buy it.

I'm more concerned about these lousy crown "sales".

DaveMoeDee · August 2018

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

SakuraRush wrote: »

So the whole of the OPs argument is "I want it but I don't want to pay. ZoS is greedy for wanting me to pay."? Because that sure is how it sounds.

And to be clear if a company wanting you to pay more for something makes them greedy then you wanting to pay less makes you greedy.

Would you do your job for less money, sell your goods a much lower price because people didn't want to pay for them? Unlikely.

This is more of a Rich people ruining things for everyone that isn't rich thing,which they do.

Nonsense. The game went B2P. Before, everyone had to pay $15/month to play. Now they can get the game for $10 during a sale and play to their heart's content.

"Rich people" help make that possible when they buy large sums of crowns to buy fancy housing, etc.

Leogon · August 2018

I'll be happy to throw my crowns at ZOS someday when they finally release the imperial banker and elven merchant.

Arrille · August 2018

Well, I bought them for 5K, didn't see the problem. You have in every major town bank and bankers, and merchants are on every corner of the game, you can even find them on roads between the towns. So yeah, Crown store merchant and banker are just luxury items, nothing else.

Sergykid · August 2018

i think they have the exactly fair price, for mobile bank and vendor, having them anywhere is much comfort, and once you are finished with them you can just dismiss them. There would indeed be nice to have them on a cheaper version for home only. The smuggler is indeed pointless, the cut it takes is far more than walking on foot to some outlaws refuge.

RexyCat · August 2018

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Well, you know.... it's less than five minutes to wayshrine to Alinor, hit the bank, then wayshrine to where you were. I'm not for buying either one of the assistants until they come with the rest of the benefits.... especially the repair function on the merchant.

There are actually wandering merchants (mostly on streets) all around in game world where you can repair and buy items (features that isn't being offered from CS merchant). You just need to keep your eyes open. Destination (add on) can show markers where they are expected to show up.

Both Bank man and Merchant are still very useful to handle inventory without teleporting to where those features are being offered though NPCs in game world. If you have to pick one before the other, get bank man first as it is less places where you can interact with your own bank in game world then merchants/vendors.

shauny.gibbsb16_ESO · August 2018

If the merchant had repair I'd have bought it without doubt, same as banker and trade store built in, however I just don't find I'd need one so don't have one, it's really that simple.

Other people having them is absolutely not an issue, the cost for the utility and lack of repair/trader however seems expensive to me but that's my opinion, others have justified the cost.

SugaComa · August 2018

They need changed but the prices are fair fir the amount of time they saved me and the gold they've made me

The changes I'd like to see are when they're in the home

Merchant should be able to repair gear if you have a full set of crafting stations

Banker ...

If you have a certain level home they should also offer guild bank access to one chosen guild

Smuggler

At rank ten thieves guild she should offer same percentage increase as an additive from her base stats you get for other fences

So she would go to giving you 5% more

This makes the normal town merchants, bankers and fences still better but gives players an added bonus for owning them

Maryal · August 2018

They are luxury items. The only crowns I get are from my monthly subscription ... it took a very long time to save enough crowns to get my merchant, and then later my banker. I'm very glad I did, they were sooooo worth it! That being said, I do realize that, to some people, the cost in crowns is just not worth it just to have your own personal merchant/banker. What's important to some people isn't that important to others ... and that's perfectly okay.

Sevalaricgirl · August 2018

Lysette wrote: »

Sevalaricgirl wrote: »

Apherius wrote: »

Who care, you can buy crown store items with gold now, they said it's OK.

I don't know about you or anyone else but amidst my 6 characters, I probably have around 20K gold. That isn't going to buy anything. I don't belong to a trading guild and respecs are damned expensive.
.

When a new big patch comes out, there is often a short period of a few days, were you can respec for just a few gold.

Well if you know anything about nightblade, you know that they were nerfed into hell then buffed a bit then nerfed into hell and so forth. I only pve with my nightblade. I don't care about PvP but every single time they screw something up in the name of balancing pvp, I have to redo my nightblade. I finally dropped all the skills and am just going with bow and dual wield and have made her into my full time crafter. I made a magicka nightblade to see how that goes with destruction staff. Hopefully she won't be nerfed into hell.

Sevalaricgirl · August 2018

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Sevalaricgirl wrote: »

Apherius wrote: »

Who care, you can buy crown store items with gold now, they said it's OK.

I don't know about you or anyone else but amidst my 6 characters, I probably have around 20K gold. That isn't going to buy anything. I don't belong to a trading guild and respecs are damned expensive.
.

Ouch.... I've got 10 girls, one of whom is relegated to "main crafter" (because she's a stamblade, and with my lag that's just not really a viable class). I've got at least a couple of k gold on each of them, and 75k in the bank - because of doing all the crafting writs on the main crafter. Yep, I could do all the writs on all the others.... but that's not how I want to spend my time in game.... but if I did go there, I'd have a lot more gold.

Then again, so far I don't have much to spend it on anyway.

Yeah but that isn't going to get you the banker or merchant. The prices at the trading posts is ridiculous for the most part. I have to shop around any time I need something.

vometia · August 2018

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

stitchesofdooom wrote: »

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

Save your crowns from plus. Merchant is very handy.

I’m still waiting on a premium banker. I want guild store access.

if you're happy paying a monthly subscription regardless of the crown income. Not everyone wants to do that.

If you can’t afford it or choose not to afford.....then don’t buy one?

You want one, but at a price you set in your mind.

I'm only saying that £25 is way too much for a single assistant.

Quite. I'm quite surprised that people are okay with this, regardless of how flush they are or not (actually the richest people I've known have tended to be the least inclined to part with their money... which is probably why they're rich). I mean the banker is almost the cost of a AAA game. The fact that a handful of characters can share them means nothing coming from the SP world where I can have as many characters as I want and still use the same DLC. And have as much storage as I want, and costumes, and ability to mod my own, and... etc. It's come as a bit of a culture shock to find I have to pay a monthly sub on top of a typical AAA price to get fairly basic functionality and then everything else costs extra.

Almost thinking wistfully to the days when Oblivion's Horse Armour was absolutely lambasted for being a terrible example of price gouging. It seems positively benign from ESO's viewpoint.

RANKK7 · August 2018

They still wander around, after all this time, the character must chase them.

ZOS left that AI package and never cared to correct, they go for a stroll.

They are certainly useful but it's still 10K Crowns for unfixed products.