To everyone who says "it's just lag" it's not.
"How dare you ask for bans" is it really so crazy when I know someone is intentionally exploiting something?
There is a serious glitch/bug/desync whatever label you put on it happening here. I never would have noticed if I wasn't mortal enemies with a snipe spammer who actually plays the roll pretty well (god it kills me to give him some credit)
Just look at the videos dduke, and themaddaedra posted and form your own opinions of wtf this is
So if it's not lag then how do you explain it happening from npc's, oils, and other skills? Banning a player because a game is broken is just wrong.
Maybe if people would put even half as much effort into holding Zos accountable instead of blaming other players then these game breaking issues would have been fixed years ago, but instead we fight each other and continue to feed the crown cash cow expecting something will change.
Did you even watch the videos linked that I said to watch? Or were you just wanted to put your point in here regardless
To everyone who says "it's just lag" it's not.
"How dare you ask for bans" is it really so crazy when I know someone is intentionally exploiting something?
There is a serious glitch/bug/desync whatever label you put on it happening here. I never would have noticed if I wasn't mortal enemies with a snipe spammer who actually plays the roll pretty well (god it kills me to give him some credit)
Just look at the videos dduke, and themaddaedra posted and form your own opinions of wtf this is
So if it's not lag then how do you explain it happening from npc's, oils, and other skills? Banning a player because a game is broken is just wrong.
Maybe if people would put even half as much effort into holding Zos accountable instead of blaming other players then these game breaking issues would have been fixed years ago, but instead we fight each other and continue to feed the crown cash cow expecting something will change.
Did you even watch the videos linked that I said to watch? Or were you just wanted to put your point in here regardless
Yes I watched the videos and it happens to me too from other skills and npc's as well. I've been playing the game since release and the performance has deteriorated significantly to the point that this problem happens more frequently now with snipe as well as other skills from players AND npc's.
So based on your logic that must mean npc's are exploiting too or maybe just maybe there is a bigger performance issue going on here. Many times my game can be running 2-4 seconds behind what is actually happening and at that point it doesn't matter if it's snipe, oils, curse, ultis, or npc's attacks it's usually going to be a health desync.
Focusing on just one skill that this happens with or banning players for playing normally even though it's a cheap play style is not going to fix the issue.
visionality wrote: »The inivisible/inaudible snipe is not exactly new, it was around some weeks before Summerset already. People complained about dying without taking any visible damage - actually just dropping dead right out of the blue - and then seeing several snipes from one and the same person in their death recap.
Ofc there are exploiters that take advantage of that bug. But since snipe is a legit skill - although consistently bugged in PVP - I dont see how you could ban ppl for using it.
I was linked this video: https://youtu.be/m2ghLaazdXc
Does it look like anything that's happening to you @Datthaw ?
In that video there's no health desync, but there's a desync between the animations on the recipient's screen & the actual times those snipes land.
I.e. snipes actually land at 0:15, 0:16, 0:17 (watch the health bar/dmg numbers) but they only start displaying at 0:17, the last snipe in the chain & then all sound effects go off at once when he dies.
Some theories on what might be causing it:
- Vicecanon set (used by the sniper on that video).
- Server is laggy near the keep, not laggy near the resource - snipes originate from keep area & get animation delay.
Are you sure it is not lag? I'd love to see a video with your ping rate at the time of the snipe.
3 snipes is a little weak. Most targets can be finished in 2 hits with weaving due to the change in light attack damage.
To everyone who says "it's just lag" it's not.
"How dare you ask for bans" is it really so crazy when I know someone is intentionally exploiting something?
There is a serious glitch/bug/desync whatever label you put on it happening here. I never would have noticed if I wasn't mortal enemies with a snipe spammer who actually plays the roll pretty well (god it kills me to give him some credit)
Just look at the videos dduke, and themaddaedra posted and form your own opinions of wtf this is
So if it's not lag then how do you explain it happening from npc's, oils, and other skills? Banning a player because a game is broken is just wrong.
Maybe if people would put even half as much effort into holding Zos accountable instead of blaming other players then these game breaking issues would have been fixed years ago, but instead we fight each other and continue to feed the crown cash cow expecting something will change.
Did you even watch the videos linked that I said to watch? Or were you just wanted to put your point in here regardless
To everyone who says "it's just lag" it's not.
"How dare you ask for bans" is it really so crazy when I know someone is intentionally exploiting something?
There is a serious glitch/bug/desync whatever label you put on it happening here. I never would have noticed if I wasn't mortal enemies with a snipe spammer who actually plays the roll pretty well (god it kills me to give him some credit)
Just look at the videos dduke, and themaddaedra posted and form your own opinions of wtf this is
So if it's not lag then how do you explain it happening from npc's, oils, and other skills? Banning a player because a game is broken is just wrong.
Maybe if people would put even half as much effort into holding Zos accountable instead of blaming other players then these game breaking issues would have been fixed years ago, but instead we fight each other and continue to feed the crown cash cow expecting something will change.
Did you even watch the videos linked that I said to watch? Or were you just wanted to put your point in here regardless
Lets say you are doing your regular burst combo on person 1. Person 1 doesnt see your burst combo and their hp doesnt budge as how it nornally should and goes from 100 to 0 instantly with no chance for reaction or counterplay. Player 1 now follows your logic, calls it an exploit and gets you banned even though on your end everything seemed normal. Sound fair? If not, this is you, just replace burst combo with snipe. It is not a snipe problem it is a server problem.
To everyone who says "it's just lag" it's not.
"How dare you ask for bans" is it really so crazy when I know someone is intentionally exploiting something?
There is a serious glitch/bug/desync whatever label you put on it happening here. I never would have noticed if I wasn't mortal enemies with a snipe spammer who actually plays the roll pretty well (god it kills me to give him some credit)
Just look at the videos dduke, and themaddaedra posted and form your own opinions of wtf this is
So if it's not lag then how do you explain it happening from npc's, oils, and other skills? Banning a player because a game is broken is just wrong.
Maybe if people would put even half as much effort into holding Zos accountable instead of blaming other players then these game breaking issues would have been fixed years ago, but instead we fight each other and continue to feed the crown cash cow expecting something will change.
Did you even watch the videos linked that I said to watch? Or were you just wanted to put your point in here regardless
Lets say you are doing your regular burst combo on person 1. Person 1 doesnt see your burst combo and their hp doesnt budge as how it nornally should and goes from 100 to 0 instantly with no chance for reaction or counterplay. Player 1 now follows your logic, calls it an exploit and gets you banned even though on your end everything seemed normal. Sound fair? If not, this is you, just replace burst combo with snipe. It is not a snipe problem it is a server problem.
Let's follow your logic, I farm IC and notice I'm getting alot of telvar. I keep farming. Come to find out its a bug I had no idea, zos threatens me with ban. It's not outside the realm of what they have done in the past.
But you're missing the entire *** point of what I'm saying because you're insistent on pushing your idea. This guy knows something is up, we don't like eachother, I die to this crap like 3-4 times a night when we're at the same fights.
To everyone who says "it's just lag" it's not.
"How dare you ask for bans" is it really so crazy when I know someone is intentionally exploiting something?
There is a serious glitch/bug/desync whatever label you put on it happening here. I never would have noticed if I wasn't mortal enemies with a snipe spammer who actually plays the roll pretty well (god it kills me to give him some credit)
Just look at the videos dduke, and themaddaedra posted and form your own opinions of wtf this is
So if it's not lag then how do you explain it happening from npc's, oils, and other skills? Banning a player because a game is broken is just wrong.
Maybe if people would put even half as much effort into holding Zos accountable instead of blaming other players then these game breaking issues would have been fixed years ago, but instead we fight each other and continue to feed the crown cash cow expecting something will change.
Did you even watch the videos linked that I said to watch? Or were you just wanted to put your point in here regardless
Lets say you are doing your regular burst combo on person 1. Person 1 doesnt see your burst combo and their hp doesnt budge as how it nornally should and goes from 100 to 0 instantly with no chance for reaction or counterplay. Player 1 now follows your logic, calls it an exploit and gets you banned even though on your end everything seemed normal. Sound fair? If not, this is you, just replace burst combo with snipe. It is not a snipe problem it is a server problem.
Let's follow your logic, I farm IC and notice I'm getting alot of telvar. I keep farming. Come to find out its a bug I had no idea, zos threatens me with ban. It's not outside the realm of what they have done in the past.
But you're missing the entire *** point of what I'm saying because you're insistent on pushing your idea. This guy knows something is up, we don't like eachother, I die to this crap like 3-4 times a night when we're at the same fights.
Difference with your counter logic is that you notice that something is abrupt and therefore a bug and yet you still are farming and not reporting and/or checking patch notes or announcents. If you are fighting someone and they dont cc break, are you going to stop all your dps and wait for them to cc break or are you going to take advantage of them being cced? How can you possibly ban someone for playing the game normally with no noticable issue. Be careful for what you wish for.
If its an hack as in cheat engine or an actual exploit some how its banable if caught.Question in title, is it bannable? There is a snipe glitch where you can get hit from like 3 snipes at the aame tome before you even hear the sound or see the 1st shot. There is a few pvp players who are totally taking advantage of this glitch. If it's bannable I'm going get shadow play going because one of these guys in very hateful, tbagging sending hate tells and what not. Would love to give that salt the hammer.
However its just as likely this is just lag and rubber banding,
Question in title, is it bannable? There is a snipe glitch where you can get hit from like 3 snipes at the aame tome before you even hear the sound or see the 1st shot. There is a few pvp players who are totally taking advantage of this glitch. If it's bannable I'm going get shadow play going because one of these guys in very hateful, tbagging sending hate tells and what not. Would love to give that salt the hammer.
GaunterODim wrote: »Ive noticed this too, also been happening before summerset. I doesnt happen too often, but when it does, it is repeatedly the same player taking advantage of something.
It has been bugging me for a while how its done and what to do against it, because youre litreally just falling over dead and then you have 3-4 snipes from the same player in your recap and it is not a pleasure.
Question in title, is it bannable? There is a snipe glitch where you can get hit from like 3 snipes at the aame tome before you even hear the sound or see the 1st shot. There is a few pvp players who are totally taking advantage of this glitch. If it's bannable I'm going get shadow play going because one of these guys in very hateful, tbagging sending hate tells and what not. Would love to give that salt the hammer.
And good ol' Hunding's Rage, Poisonous Serpent etc...
That’s just one of many issues:
- No sound queue
- Stacking Snipes
- Health desyncing
Those are the bugs, and they are consistent. Even when not stealthed there are sometimes issues, but the majority of them happen when a stealthed target casts Snipe.
Probably never gonna change. I’m serious btw, I’m going to make the most disgusting Snipe build anyone has ever seen and probably post of vid of it. It has been bugged since launch. Unless it starts to wreck Cyrodiil ZOS won’t do anything.
Morag Tong/Shear Venom.
There are a lot more things which could be stacked - like forcing a guaranteed critical with massive critical damage from stealth, quickly followed by the 2nd and 3rd hit - without a sound clue this is just lethal with no way to protect against it other than very high health and even that might not help in the end. The issue is the missing sound clue - one could easily dodge that when hearing it in time and react to it instinctively.
Or you can just deal the same damage instantly by slotting Asylum Bow & (now undodgeable btw) Bombard :P
Snipe->Snipe=2s
Snipe->LA+Bombard=1s & more damage
Snipe->Snipe->Snipe=3s
Snipe->LA+Bombard->LA+Bombard=2s & more or less the same damage
Snipe Spam can stay super far away though, with the whole attack being impossible to react to.
Even the Asylum Bow combo is too strong imo. The burst Dmg is so high that it drops most builds to low health immediately. Morag Tong/Sheer Venom/Swamp Raider/Marksmans can be comboed with each other in any way to push the damage crazy high.
Snipe is the problem with everything tbh. Damage is too high and the skill itself buggy asf.
Question in title, is it bannable? There is a snipe glitch where you can get hit from like 3 snipes at the aame tome before you even hear the sound or see the 1st shot. There is a few pvp players who are totally taking advantage of this glitch. If it's bannable I'm going get shadow play going because one of these guys in very hateful, tbagging sending hate tells and what not. Would love to give that salt the hammer.
yes that would be nice,
also bann those zergs, coming around a corner and you are dead before you can say "eso"
that is also very mean
or those camping at bridges, towers, milegates and killing ppl over and over
I say BANN THEM ALL, and DO IT NOW!
and anyway it is total unfair to kill other players in PvP-zones!
BANN PVP ZONES! BANN THEM NOW!
and being killed in duells is unfair
BANN DUELLS NOW!
all said, now it will be done!
I get what you're trying to do here, but you're just coming off as an ass. I'm not some salty rage person because I died, you obviously have 0....zero, idea what I'm talking about. I have never tried to ban anyone and only report bit trains. But this glitch is just over the top and being totally abused. I don't think you know what it really is.
you always could have reported the hate comment of that hunk, but NO, you want players who use snipe to get banned...........
Question in title, is it bannable? There is a snipe glitch where you can get hit from like 3 snipes at the aame tome before you even hear the sound or see the 1st shot. There is a few pvp players who are totally taking advantage of this glitch. If it's bannable I'm going get shadow play going because one of these guys in very hateful, tbagging sending hate tells and what not. Would love to give that salt the hammer.
yes that would be nice,
also bann those zergs, coming around a corner and you are dead before you can say "eso"
that is also very mean
or those camping at bridges, towers, milegates and killing ppl over and over
I say BANN THEM ALL, and DO IT NOW!
and anyway it is total unfair to kill other players in PvP-zones!
BANN PVP ZONES! BANN THEM NOW!
and being killed in duells is unfair
BANN DUELLS NOW!
all said, now it will be done!
I get what you're trying to do here, but you're just coming off as an ass. I'm not some salty rage person because I died, you obviously have 0....zero, idea what I'm talking about. I have never tried to ban anyone and only report bit trains. But this glitch is just over the top and being totally abused. I don't think you know what it really is.
you always could have reported the hate comment of that hunk, but NO, you want players who use snipe to get banned...........
The OP has two parts:
1) There is a new bug with Snipe that’s possibly exploited. Therefore the question of bans is a valid one.
2) The presumed exploiter also sends hate tells.
The two issues aren’t connected at all.
I ended up ignoring him but he will still stand over me and just tbag until I rez. I have never been one to get upset when I die in pvp, it's gonna happen. But having someone abuse a glitch and then taunt me is infuriating
I can't state this enough..if it's his playstyle to use snipe then it's not abusing a glitch. It may sound just fine from his end, so how is he to know he's even abusing anything? What is the solution here, that he stop trying to use his playstyle to kill players with.
The bagging and hate tells will more likely get him banned than a glitch this person may not even know about. I understand you're frustrated, and even though this player seems like an ass, let's not throw around accusations. There's no way you can possibly know or prove that this glitch even shows up on his end. You just can't. It's unrealistic to think he will stop what works for him in PvP or change his playstyle, especially if it's unknown to him or possible lag...and we all know lag and rubber banding happen constantly in Cyrodiil. It's just an unfortunate fact.
Yes, I agree he's an ass...but if you're looking to ban, start taking screen shots of the tells.
What are you a rock? II'M NOT ATTACKING SNIPE. Maybe you will get it this time. There is a bug glitch desync w/e something is new and broken. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there