I don't hate PvP. I just know my limits and abilities. I suck. No ifs ands or buts about it. As such, it's no fun at all. The only reason then for me to PvP would be to provide content for someone else and, well, sorry, not going to do that.

Unless they want to pay my sub.

Because several pve players think PvP community is responsible for all nerfs that we see often added with each update.

No reason to go to PvP.
PvE is already a boring chore with how easy overworld is and how 9 year olds are beating veteran content while ignoring most of the game's mechanics.
PvP is that same thing except you walk through empty spaces before getting to anything.

Because I was horribly, terribly afraid and knew I would be absolutely no good at it.

At least, that was why I hated it when I was a PVE only player. It probably didn't help that this was my first experience with an MMO and PVP.

I started to PVP gradually and eventually learned I didn't hate it, as I got better at it and it wasn't just riding around to die in a couple seconds. The learning curve kind of sucks, but its a lot better with a group. I still remember the Midyear Mayhem festival last year. I'd logged onto Shor before there were any organized groups so I wound up in charge of an LFG group by virtue of being the only person with an idea where to go. Halfway through us conquering the emp ring, id picked up a full raid of mostly inexperienced PVE players who'd been having no luck on their own but were finally getting to experience being effective in PVP. As several of them said in agreement, "PVP is fun with an army!"

So for myself, who was so much a PVE player that I came to Cyrodiil for the Master Angler fish...
1. I was afraid and had never done PVP, ever.
2. PVP has a long learning curve where new, ungrouped players are very ineffective

I was lucky enough to find a good group to follow and then a good PVP guild, and now I PVP regularly. So a welcoming atmosphere and good PUG-grabbing groups makes a big difference for players starting out in PVP.

I've talked to some players and some just plain do not like to kill other players but to play alongside them. I as well don't like killing players but am used to the finer points of pvp.

Caitsith wrote: »

Because several pve players think PvP community is responsible for all nerfs that we see often added with each update.

pretty much it. Despite what the evidence is and what the devs say.. I tend to put them in the same category as flat-earthers and creationists.

mb10 wrote: »

I think it's because the opponent has a brain lol

PVP is just not about button mashing a rotation and moving out of the red circle.

It has way more depth combat wise, your surroundings are super important, knowing every class' strengths and weaknesses and imo building your *own* build that caters for your playstyle.

So it's not just dps numbers or whatever. There isn't an optimal number you need to be good, you need skill to be good and knowledge of different play styles.

I do both and imo PVE is so much easier

Simply this. PvP is much deeper than PvE, is much more unpredictable, you may fight for the same keep 1000 times and there won't be 2 exactly the same fights (unless there's no players so taking a keep from NPC's is always the same)

Pvp and pve are completely different beasts. They require different skill-sets in regards to the character and the player. In many ways, pvp and pve are very different games. Indeed, a lot of pvp'ers dislike pve, so it works both ways.

There are many amongst us who enjoy both, though. For example, I have a magicka and stamina build for pve and the same for pvp. I am not overly skilled at pvp (only just really started getting in to it) but i enjoy it just as much as i do pve