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Templar Jabs & Puncturing Sweep Delay

AyeshaBelladonna
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Since the patch Monday I, and several guild mates, have had an issue with there being a delay in the response of jabs/sweep. after a hit or two of them they suddenly pause. no amount of hitting the skill button will get them to respond, then they strike again, then they pause. nothing hits and animation. if you then walk away from the fight and wait, you will hear the SNAP noise of the strike and see 3 dmg #'s pop up suddenly. (if you have the in-game ui Combat Text on) even on dead bodies. My friends and i ran several tests. we took of individual set pieces to stop gear proc animations. We tried with and without AOE and DOT's. It ALMOST acts like lag we have experienced in cyrodial only this is happening EVERYWHERE. in dungeons, at zone world bosses, in duels, everywhere we fight things bigger than a skeeter. mobs, solo targets, nothing seems to make a difference. @ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom I know the issue was screen shot and posted in another thread showing the damage numbers popping up over a dead npc, but the poster made no mention of the skill pause. they are tied together. PLEASE HELP! I submitted a bug report yesterday in game and have not received a response yet.
NA EP CP1200+
Original: Mag/Templar Erestem Nightblossom (Tank/Healer Hybrid, Alchemist, general nuisance)
Alt's? at this point...so many to play, so little time!

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  • AyeshaBelladonna
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    This is making all of my templars pretty much unplayable. more and more of my guilds are complaining of the issue.
    NA EP CP1200+
    Original: Mag/Templar Erestem Nightblossom (Tank/Healer Hybrid, Alchemist, general nuisance)
    Alt's? at this point...so many to play, so little time!

    **RED or DEAD** Long Live EP!

    Leather Lace- GM, ESO Grand Designs GM, Ankle Biter for Lone Wolf United, CO-GM of Tower of Wayreth,
    Master Furnisher & Housing fanatic, PvP junkie
    Beta Tester, part of the 2013 Club
  • AyeshaBelladonna
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    Is no-one else experiencing this besides my guild?
    NA EP CP1200+
    Original: Mag/Templar Erestem Nightblossom (Tank/Healer Hybrid, Alchemist, general nuisance)
    Alt's? at this point...so many to play, so little time!

    **RED or DEAD** Long Live EP!

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    Master Furnisher & Housing fanatic, PvP junkie
    Beta Tester, part of the 2013 Club
  • Solariken
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    Yes I experience this as well, but it's not new. This has been happening as long as I can remember. It's also more of a problem with dual wield weapons than any other type. I don't think ZOS plans on addressing it, sorry. :(
  • Annalyse
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    This has been happening to my templar since Monday as well. It's very annoying. Absolutely no other issues with other characters or skills or lag, only puncturing sweeps messing up.
  • AyeshaBelladonna
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    Solariken wrote: »
    Yes I experience this as well, but it's not new. This has been happening as long as I can remember. It's also more of a problem with dual wield weapons than any other type. I don't think ZOS plans on addressing it, sorry. :(

    see, i have ran dw since i can't even remember, and since game launch i have never had this issue. not like this. maybe once in a while sure- but my templars are completely unusable now.

    except pvp lag, I've NEVER had it this bad.
    NA EP CP1200+
    Original: Mag/Templar Erestem Nightblossom (Tank/Healer Hybrid, Alchemist, general nuisance)
    Alt's? at this point...so many to play, so little time!

    **RED or DEAD** Long Live EP!

    Leather Lace- GM, ESO Grand Designs GM, Ankle Biter for Lone Wolf United, CO-GM of Tower of Wayreth,
    Master Furnisher & Housing fanatic, PvP junkie
    Beta Tester, part of the 2013 Club
  • incite
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    Its not only templar related issue I reckon, there are indeed some big issues since last maintenance

    Here's mine https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/398068/gliding-bug-slowed-combat-feels-non-responsive-at-times-and-so-slow-skills-dont-go-off#latest
    PC EU

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  • MyNameIsElias
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    Happening to me aswell with Jabs, really messes me up in raids.
  • j3crow
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    Same thing is happening to me. It is only recent as of the last patch.
  • Taylor_MB
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  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    Same here. My Templar on a Test Dummy today showing just this issue:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRrJZIwSBuI
  • AyeshaBelladonna
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_KaiSchober , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , @ZOS_GaryA , @ZOS_BillE Anyone? Are you guys aware of this? is it being investigated? I still haven't gotten a reply for my bug ticket, this is a HUGE concern to magplars in particular and a fairly big issue for stapler melee builds as well. CAN we play without the main templar skill? sure, i guess if we wanted to redo our builds we could but we shouldn't have to. This can't be an intended delay. Some sort of feedback please ZOS team!
    NA EP CP1200+
    Original: Mag/Templar Erestem Nightblossom (Tank/Healer Hybrid, Alchemist, general nuisance)
    Alt's? at this point...so many to play, so little time!

    **RED or DEAD** Long Live EP!

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    Master Furnisher & Housing fanatic, PvP junkie
    Beta Tester, part of the 2013 Club
  • Vapirko
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    I think Monday’s patch screwed up a lot of things. There’s a few threads about it. As I’ve mentioned in other threads I’ve had jabs hitting me out of thin air after the Templar was killed. For a number of people PvP has been an absolute mess.
  • Vapirko
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    I think Monday’s patch screwed up a lot of things. There’s a few threads about it. As I’ve mentioned in other threads I’ve had jabs hitting me out of thin air after the Templar was killed. For a number of people PvP has been an absolute mess. Really hope they know what went wrong and are fixing it on Monday.
  • Invincible
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    It only seems to happen when spamming jabs which you shouldn't be doing anyway. But yeah definitely need to be fixed.
  • Twenty0zTsunami
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    Is no-one else experiencing this besides my guild?

    I noticed a lot of weird/laggy behavior on my templar, specific pertaining to the daedric spear
  • RavenSworn
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    Same here on my Templar. Will edit if guildies has the same problem too.
    Ingame: RavenSworn, Pc / NA.


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  • Radiance
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    Solariken wrote: »
    Yes I experience this as well, but it's not new. This has been happening as long as I can remember. It's also more of a problem with dual wield weapons than any other type. I don't think ZOS plans on addressing it, sorry. :(

    Oh, I guess I'm not the only one... I use DW on my Templar and I have these lag fits where I can spam Jabs and Not hit a single Mob in the crowd... it is very disappointing not to mention embarrassing getting killed in a Normal dungeon in front of Noobs with 100s of CP and full sets between us...

    Sometimes I feel like they break *** on purpose because IDK how anyone can be this incompetent... Anytime they "Fix" something, 5 more things need Fixed break.
  • AyeshaBelladonna
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    Invincible wrote: »
    It only seems to happen when spamming jabs which you shouldn't be doing anyway. But yeah definitely need to be fixed.

    Yes, you SHOULD be spamming that skill. large mob takedowns in particular. is it your only skill? no. but is it a skill you should be able to spam 3-4 times in a rotation? yes. Either way. its Broke af right now.
    NA EP CP1200+
    Original: Mag/Templar Erestem Nightblossom (Tank/Healer Hybrid, Alchemist, general nuisance)
    Alt's? at this point...so many to play, so little time!

    **RED or DEAD** Long Live EP!

    Leather Lace- GM, ESO Grand Designs GM, Ankle Biter for Lone Wolf United, CO-GM of Tower of Wayreth,
    Master Furnisher & Housing fanatic, PvP junkie
    Beta Tester, part of the 2013 Club
  • cazlonb16_ESO
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    Let's not forget about the massive damage nerf due to double dipping defensive CP stars in PvP either. Refer to the "Fix Templars" thread in the PTS forum for details.
  • Wreuntzylla
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    Huh, and here I thought it was lag.

  • Casdha
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    To me It almost seems to me like the server is loosing track of the target for a second or two or a mini-lag. I've also noticed that the target will stand there with a partial health bar, if you stop trying to hit them you will notice that they will eventually just fall over dead because you have already done enough damage to kill them it just takes them a second to realize they are dead.

    It acts like a short version of when the server use to loose where you are and you could walk around for a couple of minutes but coulndn't interact with anything, but rather than your server connection crashing, this seems to recover after a second or two and you can continue playing.
    Edited by Casdha on March 1, 2018 6:01AM
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  • zaria
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    Is no-one else experiencing this besides my guild?
    Had the same issue a lot, you sweep and enemy just stand there, then he dies a second later.
    Thought it was lag first.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • MjolnirVilkas
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    Yeah I've noticed this problem too, I thought I was lagging even though my FPS was 60 and latency 67. Thanks for reporting, I can now be sure this problem is not on my end.

    I hope this gets fixed.
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  • pandoraderomanus
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    Same for me with jabs. Also a few people in russian community experienced this. Some people say that breath of life is broken as well - not healing people as it should.
    PC-EU since 2014

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    Pandora Morgenstern - noob orc-stamsorc
  • Mickydanz
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    Its been a little weird - As a stamblade I cloak away and 2-3 seconds later the final part of the jabs hits me even when the Templar is far away. Its like delayed or the damage is teleporting.
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  • Arieark
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    Same here.
  • UppGRAYxDD
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    Looks like ZoS forgot to remove the "nerf Templar" alogarhythm
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  • Arieark
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    lol
  • Ragnarock41
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    So many stuff broke this patch, leap doesn't work half of the time, dawnbreaker too.

    health desyncs happen a lot more, and now I hear templars are bugged again.

    Guess who is not suprised at all?
    Edited by Ragnarock41 on March 1, 2018 12:30PM
  • Beodamacsa
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    Same can't use the skill due to the bug.
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