Random Rescource drain since the 3.3.7 Patch

Ciovala · February 2018

I didn’t notice this in any vMA runs (on magicka characters). Is there some way to reliably reproduce? Just curious, not disagreeing!

Alcast · February 2018

Dojohoda wrote: »

@flubber77 posted of video of it in this thread:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/398217/what-the-heck-is-wrong-with-this-game-watch-video-zenimax

of just being still and stam ticking down.

lmao xD @ZOS_RichLambert

Marabornwingrion · February 2018

The same build and rotation - on the left is PTS shortly before DB launch, on the right is Live server after DB launch:

ecru · February 2018

Astrid_V wrote: »

The same build and rotation - on the left is PTS shortly before DB launch, on the right is Live server after DB launch:

is that magnb? 1733/s is insane. personally i haven't run into this issue at all on my stamdk or magnb, which makes me wonder what's causing it.

menschikov2 · February 2018

Ciovala wrote: »

I didn’t notice this in any vMA runs (on magicka characters). Is there some way to reliably reproduce? Just curious, not disagreeing!

No. It seems to be random. We tested it in PvP and we can't see any constant Bugs. Some persons say that in PvP it is better when you change the campaign but i don't know.
In the PvE i have also heared of People that have no probems.
Perhaps it has to do with any Sets or skills but i don't know

menschikov2 · February 2018

And i forgot to mention that the bug with the Rescources can also happen with your lifebar. We had it yesterdat that some of us got damage but the heals were not abeled to heal them for some time. The Animation for the heal appeared but it had no other effect.
Very funny when your tank is at 6k life any noone can heal him

GC0 · February 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks all, just confirming we've seen this and will investigate.

Fix the puncturing sweep and biting jab overmitigation in CP PvP with this as well, would be nice.

Berenhir · February 2018

Ah thank god then I'm not completely paranoid!

Cage_Lizardman · February 2018

I had a strange bug once where I was taking damage out of nowhere, in Cyrodiil. But that was before Dragon Bones. I was just sitting inside a keep after respawning. I didn't see anything hitting me, and I could heal through it. I stopped healing to see what the recap would say once I died, but I didn't get one, the button was greyed out.

I have no idea what would have caused it and I've never seen it since.

SodanTok · February 2018

Astrid_V wrote: »

The same build and rotation - on the left is PTS shortly before DB launch, on the right is Live server after DB launch:

Eh, never trust reg or drain in combat metrics. It has so many errors. Third of my parses on PTS had like 30% more regen ticks counted than should be possible (unless I found hidden ingame bug

). Like having regen tick proc 130 times in 200s parse

xeNNNNN · February 2018

ik its weird to say this as well you'll understand.

I know Magdk has a lot of costly abilities but I was running out of magicka faster after only using my full front bar (as a test). Even for magDK thats not right.

Sweetare · February 2018

So it's not only me!
I have been doing BGs and sometimes I would engage in combat with my NB and and start hearing the "not enough" Stam sound after 3 attacks and just wonder where the hell did my Stamina go?! This is with about 2.6k stam recovery.
Thought I was being hit permanently by resource poisons.
Good to know Im not paranoid

Mayrael · February 2018

Oh no its a new fix for perma blockers, didn't you heard that? Now you will randomly loose your resources to create an openings for others attacks.

Trinity_Is_My_Name · February 2018

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks all, just confirming we've seen this and will investigate.

Please take a look at Puncturing Sweeps too. Since Monday's small patch it doesn't work properly. Animation starts and stops and have to be aiming specifically at one target to hit it. Was working fine before Monday's small patch. Thank you!

angelncelestine · February 2018

menschikov2 wrote: »

And i forgot to mention that the bug with the Rescources can also happen with your lifebar. We had it yesterdat that some of us got damage but the heals were not abeled to heal them for some time. The Animation for the heal appeared but it had no other effect.
Very funny when your tank is at 6k life any noone can heal him

Same issue since Monday.

MLGProPlayer · February 2018

Yikes, this is major. Hope it gets hotfixed.

ofSunhold · February 2018

Mayrael wrote: »

Oh no its a new fix for perma blockers, didn't you heard that? Now you will randomly loose your resources to create an openings for others attacks.

Developer's note: We felt combat was lacking in RNG instadeath elements, so periodically invisible beings will steal all of your stamina or magicka, and may or may not refuse to give it back until you perform the correct emote. This is a buff if you are easily amused and like playing dice, otherwise a nerf.

Kidding. Don't hurt me.

Moglijuana · February 2018

I ran into this issue last night. While sprinting away to LOS I noticed my magicka bar was slowly trickling down to 0. Popped a pot and used a Dragon leap for resources as the first guy came at me and within two whips I was at 0 again. Thought it was poisons but I didn't get attacked on my way to LOS so idk...

N00BxV1 · February 2018

I noticed the mysterious resource drain while doing a dungeon last night. At one point I sprinted for a second and then let off to continue walking, but my stamina was steadily depleting for several seconds after as if I were still sprinting. I haven't played a lot since the DB update but when I did I've noticed resources were being sapped and was having to use potions more/sooner than usual.

Talrol · February 2018

Ok, I thought it was just me. I was healing bottom in vHRC last night was at about 75% mag then I cast my healing springs and combat prayer once each and was drained.

I thought that maybe I got hit by a mechanic that I hadn't seen before. I've thought that there were some wierd instances where I felt that my mag should have been higher but didn't pay enough attention to it to know for sure and just HAed to get it back up.

Talrol · February 2018

oh Breton magicka Warden healer

Dapper Dinosaur · February 2018

I'm xbox NA and having frequent and severe combat lag where the game behaves like I'm on a DSL connection. I'll see everyone freeze for upwards of 5 seconds, sometimes even lasting up to 15, and then the combat plays in fast-forward all around me until it catches up. I have a 150+ download 10+ upload connection and I'm wired to it directly, it's definitely not a problem on my end. I've seen huge issues like this right after a content patch before, this isn't the first time. I don't know if it's just raw server load from the new dungeons and systems bringing some people back (I would hope that's not the case as it means the servers are as unstable as they could be) or if ZoS actually broke this many things and it actually made it through testing. I don't know which scenario is worse.

DarkLylith · February 2018

Yes, I can usually do my rotation on the the 3 mil skele on my magblade just fine and never run out of magcika, don;t need to do any heavy attacks. Same roation the other day, mag kept running low, and had to heavy attack like 3 times during the 3 mil target rotation.

Eiagra · February 2018

My sister and I have also been noticing issues to sustain. At this point I'm not sure if there was some increased costs snuck in, or something happened to regen, or what. Doing normal Vaults, I can generally get through an entire cycle on the final boss before he tosses up his barrier, which is my cue to replenish (as I'm basically at zero by then). That's not happening now, and I have to regen much sooner.

Starting to wish I'd taken screenshots of everything about my character, including ability costs and such, so I could see where things changed.

LiquidPony · February 2018

It's a side effect of ZOS making off-balance more useful for everyone.

Now, when you heavy attack an off-balance target, you regenerate 100% more resources.

However, if you heavy attack a target that is not off-balance, you instead drain the resources you would have regenerated prior to this patch.

This will make off-balance more fun and more useful for everyone!

/s

Menelaos · February 2018

menschikov2 wrote: »

-Overall lower sustain in PvE and PvP(at many different Chars in PvP. Our heal has tested it in an PvE-Situation and she had the same Problem with less sustain)

As for PvP I guess Cheat Engine hasn't been updated to the new patch yet so quite a few people seem to actually have problems with their sustain, yeah. Must be odd for them...

Okay, pun aside: Yes, there are occasions where your sustain drops and there are also situations where your attributes can't seem to exceed a given threshold after they have been reduced, e.g. magicka/stamina cannot regen past, say, 13k no matter what. We had a situation with a tank who couldn't be healed past some 11k after he got hit by a boss'es heavy attack.

Also confirming we could find any pattern in this. It seems to be completely random. Also being immobile in sneak sometimes drains your stam pool; for reasons random and unknown.

Dymence · February 2018

Tested around a bit on dummy. Can't reproduce any form of strange or unintended magicka drain in any way. Haven't noticed anything strange with sustain in raids either.

I feel like 90% of this thread is pure placebo. People read about this, and suddenly find strange magicka issues everywhere. Strange indeed.

In any case, ZOS is digging into it so we'll likely hear it if there is something broken.

CMz · February 2018

Huge issues with sustain both on test dummy and in trials/pledges. Both magica and stamina drop-offs that are very significant. Huge but seeming random issues with heals being applied across a group - healing springs only healing one or two players in its radius, BoL having zero impact on player standing immediately next to me, regin animation hitting player but no effect on their health. Help!

bethsheba · February 2018

For some reason in chrome I couldn't get the vid to show, so here is that guys direct link

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uSI-OcCh8qY

menschikov2 · March 2018

Dymence wrote: »

Tested around a bit on dummy. Can't reproduce any form of strange or unintended magicka drain in any way. Haven't noticed anything strange with sustain in raids either.

I feel like 90% of this thread is pure placebo. People read about this, and suddenly find strange magicka issues everywhere. Strange indeed.

In any case, ZOS is digging into it so we'll likely hear it if there is something broken.

Ok. and which kind of Placebo is it when a lot of the raidgroups can confirm that they hat the same Bugs with life and sustain? I know of atleast 7 PvE-Raidgroups which had this bug and also of enough People from PvP. I have tested it too and i had also no Problems at a dummy but in the raid i've seen it a lot. Perhaps you need a special situation for this to happen. I don't know but it is no imagination.