Random Rescource drain since the 3.3.7 Patch

menschikov2

Hi. Some People from my guild had the proble that since the last patch the sustain is very bad. We Play the same builds from last week but in some situations we have totaly no sustain in situations where we had no probems last week.
We tested a bit and i can't see any regular structures there.
We had a lot of interesting things like:
-3 times dodgerole takes nearby 20k Stamina on a Stamina-Char
-LA that cost magika on a mag-Sorc
-Overall lower sustain in PvE and PvP(at many different Chars in PvP. Our heal has tested it in an PvE-Situation and she had the same Problem with less sustain)

We tried to find any logic in this but it seems to be completely random when and what happens with your sustain.

I want to ask if anybody else hat this Problems too in PvE or PvP?

pelle412

Now that you mention it, I did notice an oddity yesterday doing trials on a magicka DPS. I usually sustain well on blue mag/health food but I had to switch to witchmother's to maintain my rotations that were fine a few days ago.

xiZeroPointix

Ive had this issue on xbox na. Stamina will drain to 50% while idle out of combat. Also during combat i will recieve a regen tick then it immediately returns back then jumps forward again without casting abilities. Usuallly just dinking around with a few npc in deshaan waiting on a dungeon que. Theeen...health bar will be stuck at 60% and will not regen past that point regardless of potion use or dark deaL (stam sorc).

Fvh09NL

Yeah, I also thought I noticed quite a difference playing pvp after the patch went live on console today.

Hurtfan

xiZeroPointix wrote: »

Ive had this issue on xbox na. Stamina will drain to 50% while idle out of combat. Also during combat i will recieve a regen tick then it immediately returns back then jumps forward again without casting abilities. Usuallly just dinking around with a few npc in deshaan waiting on a dungeon que. Theeen...health bar will be stuck at 60% and will not regen past that point regardless of potion use or dark deaL (stam sorc).

The health bar glitch has been around since I came back about a year ago (maybe longer, idk). It sucks when you're stuck at 50% health playing PvP. You have to die and respawn to make it go away in my experience.

Girl_Number8

Yes, my guild as well noticed this. Are they hidden nerfs we were not made aware of?

NyassaV

I've noticed a few things every now and then but nothing too drastic

josiahva

My magicka regen on my tank seems lower...possibly stam regen too, but magicka is the smaller pool so I notice it more. That's just a gut feeling though, no tests to back it up.

menschikov2

And another interesting bug is that is seems like some players can't get heal even if they are in the middle of the healing circles.
We hat this in MOL in trashgroups and at the bosses. Some Players get the heal how they shoud and others only 1 Meter away is at 30% and he can't get healed for some seconds. This killed some of us and produced 2 wipes.

Any comments about this Topic and the first post? @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

SirAndy

Noticed that too, i have a heavy attack MagSorc build which never had any sustain issues until now.

I mean, the guy *literally* only uses heavy attacks and skills weaved ...

Alcast

menschikov2 wrote: »

And another interesting bug is that is seems like some players can't get heal even if they are in the middle of the healing circles.
We hat this in MOL in trashgroups and at the bosses. Some Players get the heal how they shoud and others only 1 Meter away is at 30% and he can't get healed for some seconds. This killed some of us and produced 2 wipes.

Any comments about this Topic and the first post? @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

lmao that literally happened to me as well in tonights raid wtf? Might have been Healthdesync tho?

Marabornwingrion

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one...

I was testing PvE build on PTS shortly before DB patch went Live. While testing rotations on dummy I had 1.3k magicka regen and 1.4k drain, according to Combat Metrics.

Few days later DB launched, I made exactly the same build on Live server and my magicka drain went up to 1.7k... No idea why. But something definitely is wrong.

BigBadVolk

Alcast wrote: »

menschikov2 wrote: »

And another interesting bug is that is seems like some players can't get heal even if they are in the middle of the healing circles.
We hat this in MOL in trashgroups and at the bosses. Some Players get the heal how they shoud and others only 1 Meter away is at 30% and he can't get healed for some seconds. This killed some of us and produced 2 wipes.

Any comments about this Topic and the first post? @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

lmao that literally happened to me as well in tonights raid wtf? Might have been Healthdesync tho?

same in a bg today only got healed when I ran through my refreshing path

Zagnut123Zagnut123

Been noticing this alot lately on both mag and stam toons.

DKsUnite

sometimes i notice that my magicka is drained from like 80 to 10 in a couple moves

Reverb

I thought I was losing my mind! Last night tanking pledges I was out of stam 80% of the time. I even ate more food, convinced that my UI was lying to me.

MaxwellC

Interesting I was wondering why suddenly I had sustain issues in PvP but post patch there was nothing to be concerned of.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Thanks all, just confirming we've seen this and will investigate.

geonsocal

man, i'm already sucking down pots at a fiendish pace...

DuckNoodles

Ha, i thought my mind was playing tricks on me in PvP!

Tasear

Not sure, but base might be off I think I was 1.8 before patch and 1.7 now. Also it might not be normal that after adding 1 recovery glyph went up by 300 almost. Umm also feels like we are regaining less out of combat. I am having to use potions to keep up out of combat.

ofSunhold

Maybe this explains everybody accusing everybody of using resource poisons in Cyro.

TheYKcid

PC/NA

I can't say for sure that I've felt any difference in sustain, but I've definitely noticed my resource bars jumping back and forth even when idling. Possibly related.

Qbiken

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks all, just confirming we've seen this and will investigate.

Ty

At least I wasn´t imagining things
Did some vet-dungeons with my magicka Templar after the patch was released. My magicka sustain was absolutely horrible compared to how it was pre-patch.

PlagueSD

Guess this in only in Cyrodiil. I've been doing CWC quests and sneaking pretty much everywhere. I don't think I've gone below 80% stam...Of course, in my sneaky gear setup, my regen is through the roof and I'm in all well fitted gear.

Agalloch

PlagueSD wrote: »

Guess this in only in Cyrodiil. I've been doing CWC quests and sneaking pretty much everywhere. I don't think I've gone below 80% stam...Of course, in my sneaky gear setup, my regen is through the roof and I'm in all well fitted gear.

No, this happens randomly everywhere.

Maybe some hidden nerfs that are not included in the patch notes?

Its a pain to play the game with so many resources drain.

Happened to me in raids, dungeons even when I stand still contemplating the landscape.

Dojohoda

Yes, running out of resources really fast has been happening to me to. I wasn't sure what was going on, if it was poisons in pvp, but I noticed it happened in pve too.

SirCritical

Wtf so it's not me the [snip] noob? Yesterday I was struggling like hell with resource management, but I thought I'm just tired and messing up things always because of this

MinarasLaure

Oh nice
Emergency maintenance on the way...

swirve

Agreed, on the dummy ive noticed sustain issues which I never got previous to patch... on stam toon.

The stamina drains really quick and doesnt recover as well as normal.

Dojohoda

@flubber77 posted of video of it in this thread:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/398217/what-the-heck-is-wrong-with-this-game-watch-video-zenimax

of just being still and stam ticking down.