Random Rescource drain since the 3.3.7 Patch

Hempyre

I've had this issue in Cyro as well. Seems random. I proc up to 3k regen on my setup and never had sustain issues. Since the update, occasionally I cant keep my mag pool up to save my life. (literally) Thought my food buff was bugged.

This explains it.

While your at it how about looking into the random drop of Rapids as well. The buff falls of constantly for no reason since the update.

Nocturnal_Annoyance

Ps4 NA - I noticed this tonight in vVoM on my stamblade. It was so noticeable that I stopped to make sure I had the correct armor on (which I did). Normally sustain isn't an issue when I follow my rotation, but tonight I ran out of stam several times in VoM. That was the only time I noticed it though... ran some vMoL progression later without an issue.

Ragnarock41

This is nothing.

Sometimes in combat literally just stand and DO NOTHING, while my stamina drains for some reason.

and no, no poisons involved.

Ajaxduo

I have noticed random stamina drain whilst standing still in my homestead. Also there are a lot more health desyncs happening atm.

red_emu

PC EU - I have noticed a very similar thing and at random. I'm a warden healer so never suffered with sustain. There's times I run out of Mag in no time, or I am not recovering any with HA and there's rare occasions my mag doesn't go down as fast as it should (not that this is a complaint but I wouldn't like to think I'm unknowingly and randomly exploiting a glitch?)

karma69

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Please take a look at this video https://youtu.be/uSI-OcCh8qY 0:22 perfectly demonstrates this issue

Vapirko

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks all, just confirming we've seen this and will investigate.

Funny how non of the PvP issues get responded to this way.

Ragnarock41

Vapirko wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks all, just confirming we've seen this and will investigate.

Funny how non of the PvP issues get responded to this way.

this is also a PvP issue, and when you notice this is happening it really messes up everything. , especially when your stam regen stat is not high, it just makes life miserable.

Dymence

menschikov2 wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Tested around a bit on dummy. Can't reproduce any form of strange or unintended magicka drain in any way. Haven't noticed anything strange with sustain in raids either.

I feel like 90% of this thread is pure placebo. People read about this, and suddenly find strange magicka issues everywhere. Strange indeed.

In any case, ZOS is digging into it so we'll likely hear it if there is something broken.

Ok. and which kind of Placebo is it when a lot of the raidgroups can confirm that they hat the same Bugs with life and sustain? I know of atleast 7 PvE-Raidgroups which had this bug and also of enough People from PvP. I have tested it too and i had also no Problems at a dummy but in the raid i've seen it a lot. Perhaps you need a special situation for this to happen. I don't know but it is no imagination.

And yet my raid group and other raid groups I know of have not noticed any issues. Healing has had it's share of issues so let's put that somewhere.

But sustain? Everyone just says "I feel like sustain is worse", which is an absolutely meaningless statement on its own.

boombazookajd

I did a few simple skelly parses and ran out of stamina way too quickly. I wasn't sure what was going on.

Inarre

menschikov2 wrote: »

And i forgot to mention that the bug with the Rescources can also happen with your lifebar. We had it yesterdat that some of us got damage but the heals were not abeled to heal them for some time. The Animation for the heal appeared but it had no other effect.
Very funny when your tank is at 6k life any noone can heal him

Wow I thought this was just me. I couldn't figure out why our healers were letting our entire group stay below 20% for sometimes 30 seconds at a time.

KramUzibra

I felt it but I assumed with the added cp maybe players were putting more into syphoning

Icy_Waffles

I wonder if its related to synergies.

As if when someone activates a synergy, it takes resources from the player who placed the synergy.

josiahva

Dymence wrote: »

menschikov2 wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Tested around a bit on dummy. Can't reproduce any form of strange or unintended magicka drain in any way. Haven't noticed anything strange with sustain in raids either.

I feel like 90% of this thread is pure placebo. People read about this, and suddenly find strange magicka issues everywhere. Strange indeed.

In any case, ZOS is digging into it so we'll likely hear it if there is something broken.

Ok. and which kind of Placebo is it when a lot of the raidgroups can confirm that they hat the same Bugs with life and sustain? I know of atleast 7 PvE-Raidgroups which had this bug and also of enough People from PvP. I have tested it too and i had also no Problems at a dummy but in the raid i've seen it a lot. Perhaps you need a special situation for this to happen. I don't know but it is no imagination.

And yet my raid group and other raid groups I know of have not noticed any issues. Healing has had it's share of issues so let's put that somewhere.

But sustain? Everyone just says "I feel like sustain is worse", which is an absolutely meaningless statement on its own.

No, its not meaningless. My tank has 1350 Magicka regen and 1200 stam regen....when I notice I am constanty low on magicka and have to wait a couple seconds to be able to cast chains again(or heavy attack...which also takes seconds) it makes a BIG and NOTICEABLE difference in every dungeon you run. Sure, the DPS may not notice or think much of it, but for someone with a small magicka pool and good regen, its glaringly obvious.

Ragnarock41

KramUzibra wrote: »

I felt it but I assumed with the added cp maybe players were putting more into syphoning

I assumed the same thing first, but the problem is still there in no-cp campaign.

cyclonus11

I definitely noticed that my sustain was way down in PVE areas.

Stamblade PC/NA

boombazookajd

So is this something that's going to get fixed... or......

f047ys3v3n

QuebraRegra wrote: »

nothing to see here folks, just WROBEL's master plan to continue sweeping resource nerfs :P

Wrobel says he heard that some of you pesky NB's weren't holding down the left key all the time. Something about you trying to actually get a dps boost off of the changes to that relentless skill that were supposed to only troll you. You will be punished. All players must hold the left key down all the time in order to reduce the strain on the servers caused by using abilities.

chaz

Yes, since the last patch Dragon bones, I've noticed right away in Cyrodiil that my stamina has been depleting more than usual. This new thing may or may not be a bug but I stood in my own AOE Ritual of Retribution (A morph of cleansing ritual from Restoring Light Skills) And my magic and stam was actually going down then up, down then up several times until the AOE timed out. Very annoying. I was near some npc's trying to flip a resource, and had hid from them planning my next volley of attacks. Oddly enough I've been flipping rss all that day but I ran into one that seemed very OP'd.

So after cleansing, I hid, then casted the ritual again and it was sapping both my mag and stam.

But all in all, yes I find using arrow skills like lethal arrow it takes a lot more stam lately and I have less ability to cast that unless I drink a stam potion.

As for magic , well I can't speak to that much as I hardly use it and it always stunk. But if I had to speak to it, yes casting one magic skill seems to take half of all my mag. Usually self heals. And in battle it doesn't even heal as much as it would if I weren't in battle. If that's a bug, I have no idea. Sorry.

Oh BTW:

flubber77 wrote: »

http://youtu.be/uSI-OcCh8qY

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @Zos

Take a look at my stamina drain when not moveing.

This happened to me as well. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Vahrokh

Today it happened to me too, and in outworld!

I wanted to harvest a mineral node. Two wolves nearby attacked me. I usually need to cast 1 spell to kill them, the DoT and my 2 pets do the rest.

Once they died (took like 3 seconds), I harvested the node and... I noticed my stamina was drained to zero.

I walked, stood still, whatever and still it stayed to zero.

Asgari

Since day one of dragon bones resources have not been the same. It was noticeable right away entering cyrodiil.

When you play for hours everyday it becomes apparently obvious when something isn’t working right.

pod88kk

Struggled yesterday and today in nhof with my magnb

Waffennacht

Didn't have trouble in PvE, jumped to PvP found like 5 bugs

Ground sliding
CC break not working despite having resources
No root immunity, being rooted while mid dodge roll
Abilities take resources but fail to fire
Ults not firing/draining ult without firing
CC immunity failing

AMeanOne

I have a video of stam draining when just sitting on a mount in cyrodiil. Also just did my first dungeon since the update and I was running out of magicka way more than I used to.

MTijhuis

Since last update (Xbox eu) I have noticed that every now and then in dungeons, trials and on a dummy light attacks cost magicka as well. Which drains your resource as well. Reloading fixed the issue for me.

Besides that it seems that a heavy attack restores less magicka than before the update. I assume that's due to the off balance changes.

I hope they fix, the light attack issues cause sustaining is near impossible when that happens.

WrathOfInnos

Definitely experienced some type of resource bug in dungeons tonight. 9/10 pulls I would be fine, then halfway through one I would be out of Magicka. Hard to diagnose concretely, but I've been playing this build for months and it is pretty easy to tell when something is suddenly different. I was running Ele drain myself so I know it had not dropped off. Saw this both the new dungeons, probably not related to any specific location.

MLGProPlayer

Dymence wrote: »

Tested around a bit on dummy. Can't reproduce any form of strange or unintended magicka drain in any way. Haven't noticed anything strange with sustain in raids either.

I feel like 90% of this thread is pure placebo. People read about this, and suddenly find strange magicka issues everywhere. Strange indeed.

In any case, ZOS is digging into it so we'll likely hear it if there is something broken.

Useless post. Clearly there is a widespread issue. ZOS isn't "digging into it to see if something is broken". Gina literally confirmed on the first page that they've experienced the bug.

Thogard

I don’t know if this is related, but in laggy situations I keep getting charged resources for skills that aren’t actually firing. Usually it happens when I’ve been CCed recently. It is most noticeable to me with vigor.

I also get double charged for breakfree a lot - although I’m not sure if that’s a resource issue or if I’m actually just breaking free twice due to lag and CC immunity / break free being totally bugged.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Could you all confirm if you're still encountering sustain issues after today's PC patch, or if it appears to be resolved?

rickard_karstarck

Today's patch fixed nothing in terms of skills not firing when bar swapping and animation cancelling.

I can no longer buff myself by using skills and bar swapping to cancel the animations properly.

If I try to activate 3 buffs, by bar swapping each buff, it will consistently miss a buff.