Random Rescource drain since the 3.3.7 Patch

Androconium

MinarasLaure wrote: »

Oh nice
Emergency maintenance on the way...

Maybe they'll leave it until the next patch?

Izaki

Supernatural wrote: »

@Izaki What is going on here? xD

@Supernatural I have no idea mate, something to do with resources disappearing is my guess xD

jssriot

The other day I ran vVOM on one of my healers. We were at that first mini-boss, the ghost with the beam that lasts entirely too long, and when he beamed one of the dps, I suddenly found myself completely out of mag. This toon has 37-39k mag and 1800-2200 regen, depending on which sets he's wearing. Sustain is only an issue in really long fight where I have to use more expensive skills. But we hadn't even had a big fight yet and I was out of mag and not regen'ing. So I heavy attacked the ghost to pump it up and healed the dps fast in between with the tank yelling in the chat, "STAHP DPS'ING! STAHP!" LOL. The dps didn't die so it was OK.

It was very weird. I honestly don't know what that was about.

Lifemocker

Haven't really noticed any changes in sustain on any of my characters. My stamsorc's sustain has actually improved somehow, even tho I switched from using vo on both bars to only using it in front.
Yesterday we did vHof and it kinda felt like me and one other were not really getting any heals on the last boss. We were up on the right side and even if the healer kept using springs we just kept dying in seconds. The last time before that run there was no problem at all and it was with the same healer.

XiDiabolismiX

So I’ve heard there’s a glitch where if your resource is different on your front bar versus your back bar, resource returning skills are actually doing the OPPOSITE. It’s draining the resource instead of returning it.

I did a test on my magblade with eke drain. I kept the same amount of magic on both bars and didn’t see a difference. I then took inner light off of my back bar so my max magic went down when swapping. It did seem like my resources drained a lot quicker.

I don’t know though...

Edit: just read through and saw someone post a vid of this test. At least I’m not the only one!

Prof_Bawbag

I encountered this on my sorc last night whilst in FG2. It happened during that mage fight. I died what felt like 20k times to that boss. A boss i can do with ease. My magicka pool was non existent, my pots weren't filling my mag pool, heavy attacks weren't firing off so couldn't use them to regain magic and the healer noticed his heals weren't healing me even though I had the blue animation/aura that i would have if i was being healed. Both my HP and magic was sticking at around 1/4 even when things did kinda work. Couldn't shield or anything. About 2 seconds into the spider fight, everything bagan working again and i breezed through the content. Was a nightmare.

Prof_Bawbag

jssriot wrote: »

The other day I ran vVOM on one of my healers. We were at that first mini-boss, the ghost with the beam that lasts entirely too long, and when he beamed one of the dps, I suddenly found myself completely out of mag. This toon has 37-39k mag and 1800-2200 regen, depending on which sets he's wearing. Sustain is only an issue in really long fight where I have to use more expensive skills. But we hadn't even had a big fight yet and I was out of mag and not regen'ing. So I heavy attacked the ghost to pump it up and healed the dps fast in between with the tank yelling in the chat, "STAHP DPS'ING! STAHP!" LOL. The dps didn't die so it was OK.

It was very weird. I honestly don't know what that was about.

Yup, makes you look stupid and everyone assumes you're some sort of scrub.

bottleofsyrup

I've sat still after getting my stamina down to around 20-25% and watching it I notice it'll go up from the regen, then back down in the same amount, then back up, and repeat this.

AnviOfVai

Is this happening in PVP as well? I just recently changed my DK build and I thought she was struggling more than usual...I put it down to the build, but if there is a resource issue then thanks for the heads up!

Sanctum74

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Could you all confirm if you're still encountering sustain issues after today's PC patch, or if it appears to be resolved?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

It's been more than a week since we confirmed that the recent pc patch did not fix the resource drain problem and it's still occurring. Is there any eta when this will be fixed?

Just to clarify.

This is happening on all platforms.
It affects magic, stamina, and health.
When this happens with stamina/magic heavy attacks do not restore resources.
When this happens to health healing does not work.
This can happen both in and out of combat with all negative effects purged.

It seems like there is a problem with your data packets, pipeline, or whatever you wanna call it since we are also having missing animations, invisible players, and not responding to cc breaks, bar swaps, potions, and skill activations.

Please help

Sneaky-Snurr

I think other posters have enlightened what the problems are enough and the bug is still there?
Nice game-breaking bug, ZoS. Maybe try to look for the missing "]" in your codes or something lol.

paulychan

While leveling a new tank, I opted to create a health tank, rather than depend on stamina. I can work in heavy attacks to keep Stam up, which is necessary post dragon bones. I thought I was doing something wrong to cause my Stam pool to empty for no reason. I’m the end, I chose not to rely too heavily on Stam and went for resist and health.
The weird thing with my toon is... when I look at my character sheet, my resource numbers actually change. Or at least I think they do. It’s almost as if I’m debuffed.

D0PAMINE

Happened to me last night on a Magicka Sorc, witches brew wasnt working and dark deal was not giving me back magicka. Noticed on Tempest last boss. Did not notice it happening in other fights but I could have been oblivious.

Sanctum74

Anybody else still having this problem?

Liddyenna

Sanctum74 wrote: »

Anybody else still having this problem?

Yup, I am. Getting 'Low stamina' warning regularly just killing normal single mobs with three or four abilities. Sucks.
Having to heavy attack much more than before.

Vonbone

I've been noticing that my stam builds where running out of stam really quick for a bit now in PVP. I was thinking it was stam drain poisons but then I downloaded an add-on to see the debuffs that I was getting hit with, I didn't see very many using the poisons. This must be still going on.

Sanctum74

Thanks, was starting to think I was the only one left with this problem. Last night was real bad, my magic would just stop regenerating or it would swing up and down in 10k increments even though I wasn't using any skills. Throw in a few load screens in the middle of combat and I just can't understand how they can even remotely think this is acceptable performance.

So glad I cancelled my sub and as much as I would love to play somerset, I just can't keep supporting them financially until they make an effort to improve the performance.

Kalixte

It still hasn't been fixed? Omg. It makes 1 month ffs.

mav1234

I haven't noticed this problem in some time.

Katahdin

Yea we need confirmation on whether this was "fixed" or not.

boombazookajd

Still not fixed. Still suffering on my StamDk...skills not actually firing, like endless hail, but getting the stamina cost.

boombazookajd

@ZOS_GinaBruno any chance you could give us a status update? Last one was in February...

QuebraRegra

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks all, just confirming we've seen this and will investigate.

Hmm, "ap

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

I encountered this on my sorc last night whilst in FG2. It happened during that mage fight. I died what felt like 20k times to that boss. A boss i can do with ease. My magicka pool was non existent, my pots weren't filling my mag pool, heavy attacks weren't firing off so couldn't use them to regain magic and the healer noticed his heals weren't healing me even though I had the blue animation/aura that i would have if i was being healed. Both my HP and magic was sticking at around 1/4 even when things did kinda work. Couldn't shield or anything. About 2 seconds into the spider fight, everything bagan working again and i breezed through the content. Was a nightmare.

XBOX NA... 2 nights ago, I tried healing some random at a dolmen, who's bar was about halfway down... no matter what heal I thew on him... his bar would NOT increase. t first I thought it might be the wonky way that FUNGAL GROWTH and the morphs sometimes "miss" another player even though they are clearly within the target area.. after about 6 tries, and some other heals I just gave up.

I have also seen the resource drain problem, as well as a health drain while standing still, out of combat and no DOTs on.

BohnT

PC EU encountered it multiple times yesterday in Bergama duel spot with my stamplar
In one duel i had perfect stamina sustain with no problems and against the same person my stamina was depleted after 5 seconds and without anything being restored by regen/ heavy attacks

Hurtfan

QuebraRegra wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks all, just confirming we've seen this and will investigate.

Hmm, "ap

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

I encountered this on my sorc last night whilst in FG2. It happened during that mage fight. I died what felt like 20k times to that boss. A boss i can do with ease. My magicka pool was non existent, my pots weren't filling my mag pool, heavy attacks weren't firing off so couldn't use them to regain magic and the healer noticed his heals weren't healing me even though I had the blue animation/aura that i would have if i was being healed. Both my HP and magic was sticking at around 1/4 even when things did kinda work. Couldn't shield or anything. About 2 seconds into the spider fight, everything bagan working again and i breezed through the content. Was a nightmare.

XBOX NA... 2 nights ago, I tried healing some random at a dolmen, who's bar was about halfway down... no matter what heal I thew on him... his bar would NOT increase. t first I thought it might be the wonky way that FUNGAL GROWTH and the morphs sometimes "miss" another player even though they are clearly within the target area.. after about 6 tries, and some other heals I just gave up.

I have also seen the resource drain problem, as well as a health drain while standing still, out of combat and no DOTs on.

I could be wrong but I don't think this is related to the resource drain problem. This sounds like the health bar glitch. Before the random resource drain, sometimes (I noticed this in PvP and it still happens) your health bar gets stuck at a certain percentage. Just the other day mine was stuck at 70%, in which healing or potions don't help. Only way to get it back to 100% is to die, at least that's what I found so far.

QuebraRegra

Hurtfan wrote: »

QuebraRegra wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks all, just confirming we've seen this and will investigate.

Hmm, "ap

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

I encountered this on my sorc last night whilst in FG2. It happened during that mage fight. I died what felt like 20k times to that boss. A boss i can do with ease. My magicka pool was non existent, my pots weren't filling my mag pool, heavy attacks weren't firing off so couldn't use them to regain magic and the healer noticed his heals weren't healing me even though I had the blue animation/aura that i would have if i was being healed. Both my HP and magic was sticking at around 1/4 even when things did kinda work. Couldn't shield or anything. About 2 seconds into the spider fight, everything bagan working again and i breezed through the content. Was a nightmare.

XBOX NA... 2 nights ago, I tried healing some random at a dolmen, who's bar was about halfway down... no matter what heal I thew on him... his bar would NOT increase. t first I thought it might be the wonky way that FUNGAL GROWTH and the morphs sometimes "miss" another player even though they are clearly within the target area.. after about 6 tries, and some other heals I just gave up.

I have also seen the resource drain problem, as well as a health drain while standing still, out of combat and no DOTs on.

I could be wrong but I don't think this is related to the resource drain problem. This sounds like the health bar glitch. Before the random resource drain, sometimes (I noticed this in PvP and it still happens) your health bar gets stuck at a certain percentage. Just the other day mine was stuck at 70%, in which healing or potions don't help. Only way to get it back to 100% is to die, at least that's what I found so far.

Hmm, reminds me of the old health bar problems in Cyrodill that would occur after WARHORN (I think)... that was years ago...

magictucktuck

Before this post popped up a i did notice something was off with my recovery and got mad and wonder why i was out of resources so fast sometimes. ( i thought it must have been poisons but it would last way longer than any poison duration)

but i have not noticed any issues the past few days. anyone else seem to be better also?

Minno

magictucktuck wrote: »

Before this post popped up a i did notice something was off with my recovery and got mad and wonder why i was out of resources so fast sometimes. ( i thought it must have been poisons but it would last way longer than any poison duration)

but i have not noticed any issues the past few days. anyone else seem to be better also?

I've had it drain randomly then restore then back down again.

Inner light front bar with ele drain.

IARTOI

PC EU recorded this yesterday look at the end of the video. Stamina drain itself.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=qklxYreNTQo

@ZOS_GinaBruno

BrokenGameMechanics

It was happening to me this afternoon where if I sprinted for even a few seconds my stamina would drop by 1,000s. Logged out, cycled the XBOX ONE (NA) and was ok.

But later that evening ...

However, just now the following happened. Was chasing someone around rocks in Vivic and all of a sudden BAM zero stam out of nowhere. Full Stam for me is 38K. Got killed. Then checked my Character screen and noticed the following while lying there dead.

Mag Recovery: 726
Health Recover: 2127
Stamina Recovery: 0

Notice my Stamina Recovery is zero, nada, nothing.

Here is what it normally is unbuffed but with Food.

Mag R: 606
Health R: 364
Stamina R: 2400

So I somehow went from >2400 stam rec to 0. I don't know of any Debuffs that could do that normally.

But wait its a little more interesting. There is nothing on my bar, or anything that I can think of, that would have made my Mag R jump up exactly 20% from 606 to 727. 1.2 * 606 = 727. So my Magica Recovery jumped up 20%.

I do slot a skill (Whirling Blades) that does give me Major Expedition. It looks like the 20% was applied to Mag R and NOT Stam R.

OK so now for the Health R going from 364 to 2127. I was wearing Troll King which looking at the tooltip says HR will increase by 1494. 1494+364=1858 Not sure where additional 2127 - 1858 = 269 came from.

I can't think of anything that may have happened through normal game mechanics that would make my Stam Rec to 0.

One last item. Unbuffed as indicated Stam R is exactly 2400. IF I do nothing but buff on my Major Expedition, my Stam R jumps to 2715. But it should be 1.2 * 2400 = 2880. Is there some "cap" that is being hit?


In summary looking at my Character screen while lying there dead:

1) My Magica Regen jumped exactly 20%. But I can't think of anything I have slotted that would do that.
2) My Health Regen jumped 2127 from 364. Maybe Troll King and something else ???
3) My Stam Regen went to 0.
4) And then, right now, indpendent of the above odd occurance, with my Stam R at exactly 2400. Doing nothing else but hitting Whirling Blades for Major Endurance which is supposed to increase Stam R by 20%, I'm seeing only 2715 and not the expected 2880.

FWIW, I still have the screen shot showing my Stam R at 0.

Final addendum: If I bar swap the three regen values do NOT change. i.e. My Stam R is the same after bar swap.