One of my old guilds often picked up a trader for a 10k bid. If you're aiming for a popular location, you're going to pay more. If you don't mind an outlaws refuge, you'll get it for 10k. There are some times I even see empty traders.

JykJax wrote: »

If you MUST install a couple of addons to use a BASIC feature, it means that is a terrible concept of game.

I think the only reason for ZOS to keep it, it's the gold sink.

That's not a problem with the trader system per se, though. It's a problem because of the terrible UI design. Nothing really prevents better search functionality into the current system - that you can do it even with addons, is proof of that. Apparently, programming a terrible UI is a Bethesda tradition that ZOS did try to continue.

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Hate scrolling thru 15-20 pages of stuff? Then imagine scrolling 10's of thousands of pages!

The really fun part is when you do try to use those interfaces and find hardcaps baked into the searches to keep you from overflowing the client. You wouldn't see thousands of pages, you'd see the first 50 or 100 pages of garbage that you couldn't filter out.

"Yeah, I'm sure those green invigorating War Maiden's Pants are worth what you're asking, but I can't even find the sets I'm actually looking for, because there are 20k of the ******* things in the AH!"

Hilariously, I ran into this exact issue recently in an MMO, for exactly that reason. The AH would list the cheapest items first, meaning all you could find was garbage because the text filter wouldn't sort out the traits you actually cared about.

You are SOOOOOOO wrong about managing inactive guild members. My Guild is premised on the fact that a player who hasn't played in a year can log back in and find many familiar voices, those of us that play more regularly still in the same Guild. I have heard of so many that say, "I logged in after a couple months and logged into a dead guild.'

I welcome players who left for a year to come back and group up with us -- Long time MMO friends -- If your real friend didn't show up at your home for 14 to 30 days, you would kick them to the curb, roll up the mini blinds, move without leaving a forwarding address, and say c-ya wouldn't wanna be ya? Really?

For many, not logging in for an entire month is regular. Everyone has lives and plays other games. Why punish those players I enjoy hanging out with. I look forward to their return time and again.

Treaborne wrote: »

Actually that is the entire point of Managing a guild you need to clean out the roster at least every 14days to 30days.

Firstly this can be done is setting anyone that is inactive 14day or longer into an inactive limited rank that has no access to the extra benefits of active members.

Secondly anyone in that 14day to 30day inactive are still members in some form, but at the 30day mark you need to start kicking the inactive members. There is just no point in having them unless you are a very very very casual guild, and in this case why would you even need a trader?.

The main problem is we have a lot of traders in areas with very low traffic and very small number of traders in high traffic spots.

Some minor changes like increasing the number of traders in capital cities could improve the situation for both small and big guilds:

• Move traders from remote out of the way spots to the capital city of each zone.
• Move traders from Ebonheart to Davon's Watch
• Move traders from Skywatch to Vukhel Guard
• Add claimable guild store dialogue menu to every quartermaster in Cyrodiil including outposts, resources and towns
• Require guild store unlock to claim keep in Cyrodiil
• Adjust placement so that wayshrines are close proximity to most traders
• Add couple more trader NPCs in each outlaw refuge

I agree that taxes should come in to play - e.g., the "lost tax" (3.5%) from sales of the previous week should count towards the bid on the current week. So guilds actually selling stuff get a "leg up" on those that aren't. You can't scam that as it isn't paid to the guild - it is money lost, so as good as a credit towards a bid. Let's face it, guilds that have traders but don't sell much stuff aren't much value to the larger community. The bias should be towards those that actually sell stuff to the public.

Infinite12 wrote: »

And I know this is off topic but it's KIND OF related. Give us the ability to type in a term to search for in traders. Searching for things is such a pain.

If you're on console I feel (sorry) for you. Not in any condescending way, but really empathizing with your plight.

If you're on pc: Awesome Guild Store addon.

Narvuntien wrote: »

I just wish there was a week lag on the swap over.
You have all these things listed and bamn! you lost your trader try against next week and you don't have a way to make money to get it back.

The problem is that people never leave the main cities, there just has to be more reason to travel around. Vvandenfel, CWC and Wrothgar have these dailies that get you out of the main city and into the wilds, although they traders are concentrated in the main hubs in those zones. I think they should add delve and world boss dailies to the vanilla zones... perhaps make a new set of motifs, put in some furnishing plans as well.

Yes. And then, how about adding in some dynamically changing overland content and making overland actually challenging?

This entire topic is moot when every week there are 1) traders that go for hours if not days with no guild hiring it. and 2) every week i find traders that are empty or have only 1-2 items for sale and those same guilds get the same stall each week. Not only that but I often travel to remote traders. I do in fact shop around. and you know what i find? increasingly i find that the better deals are in fact in the central trading hubs. Sure occasionally i find 3-4 items listed competitively but often its not worth my effort to go to these smaller remote traders.

If your a GM of a guild in such location i would encourage your members to find a way to attract people to your stall. one of the best ways to to make sure that your guild members are listing at competitive rates. Because why would i keep traveling to your stall if I consistently dont get good deals? If you really want to break the back of the larger guilds and bring down the costs of traders you have to break the convenience factor and make it worth the trip to your stall.

Did this dead horse of a thread really need a double Necro?

No.