PTS Patch Notes v3.3.1

Mephilis78 · January 2018

Any idea when this goes live? I haven't been able to test in years, ( broken computer, to crappy computer, to trying to salvage garbage computer that I bought for $50)

Didgerion · January 2018

Kadoozy wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

I like PvP,
I don't like someone collecting 3k+ telvar stones from me just for clicking 2 skills on his gang build.
While on the other hand if his gang attempt fails and he dies he loses 50ish tel-vars at most.

Thievery should be a risky business - it is rewording until caught but you should loose much more when being caught.
Well the second part of thievery's consequences is missing in ESO!

It's gank* not gang. But I dont feel there is anything wrong with the current system. Group up if you are having trouble.

Thanks! will use gank from now on.
But grouping is not a counter for ganking. You burn down in 2 shots grouped or not.

Didgerion · January 2018

afonik wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

I repeat myself! There should not be telvar thievery mechanics in the game when there is such an imbalanced combat system.

Don’t like PvP?

You can still purchase housing storage with writ vouchers or crowns ...

I like PvP,
I don't like someone collecting 3k+ telvar stones from me just for clicking 2 skills on his gang build.
While on the other hand if his gang attempt fails and he dies he loses 50ish tel-vars at most.

Thievery should be a risky business - it is rewording until caught but you should loose much more when being caught.
Well the second part of thievery's consequences is missing in ESO!

We should only be able to stole 1.5xtel vars we are carrying.
To get 3k we would have to carry at least 2k stones.
I think it would be a valid and a better distribution of risk. To get a big prize one should be prepare to also lose big

That's a good way to fix it. Although I think the coefficient should be lower - like you should carry 4k telvars to be able to steal 1k. I think it is a healthy ratio as most gank attempts does not end up with gankster's death - I'd say a good gankster dies 1 time in 10 attempts.

f047ys3v3n · January 2018

Didgerion wrote: »

afonik wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Didgerion wrote: »

I repeat myself! There should not be telvar thievery mechanics in the game when there is such an imbalanced combat system.

Don’t like PvP?

You can still purchase housing storage with writ vouchers or crowns ...

I like PvP,
I don't like someone collecting 3k+ telvar stones from me just for clicking 2 skills on his gang build.
While on the other hand if his gang attempt fails and he dies he loses 50ish tel-vars at most.

Thievery should be a risky business - it is rewording until caught but you should loose much more when being caught.
Well the second part of thievery's consequences is missing in ESO!

We should only be able to stole 1.5xtel vars we are carrying.
To get 3k we would have to carry at least 2k stones.
I think it would be a valid and a better distribution of risk. To get a big prize one should be prepare to also lose big

That's a good way to fix it. Although I think the coefficient should be lower - like you should carry 4k telvars to be able to steal 1k. I think it is a healthy ratio as most gank attempts does not end up with gankster's death - I'd say a good gankster dies 1 time in 10 attempts.

I am really not sure why ZOS decided to do the whole believable currency thing with Imp city. This has been tried in many MMO's and it tends to result in a loss of 10 players for every 1 gained. Simply put, casuals do not care for being farmed which is what happens to them because they are up against much more experienced and knowledgeable players who have built out for just that purpose and are cheating half the time on top of it. With storage able to be purchased for Telvar in the upcoming update, ZOS is likely to hear once again the belly aching on this issue. They have tried to reduce the volume by reducing the amount lost to players to 50% from 90% but casuals are still going to hate being farmed. ZOS is fortunate that most of those casuals do not understand just how high a percent of IMP city gankers and gank builds in general are way into the cheat engine stuff. I suspect they would here about it much more if those casuals only knew that even if they had been good they still would have had no chance.

It is a pity about the whole imp city failure to gain a significant number of players. I actually find the area fun and different. I suspect if didn't take you 10 min just to get there slogging to it through a PVP campaign and if currency wasn't steal-able you might have folks actually show up and give it a try. ZOS might also try creating some sort of auto PUG grouping tool for it that folks could que into while doing normal overland questing. Right now it is just all a bit much to ask of the average, unconnected, casual. At least now it is not the only place you can get relevant gear. I suspect ZOS lost 100's of thousands of players for that crap when it first came out.

tamrielwinner · January 2018

My feedback on the Destruction ultimate:

PVP version:
I die to this, but it's not the worst because it's distinctly visible and can be avoided. I suppose a nerf to this is less concerning than the one below.

PVE version:
This is a significant factor for casters as desirable AOE over stamina. I can't see what this is doing wrong and a PVE nerf like this can be done without. Finally, this ability is one of the more fun to use in the game. Does this fun ability really need to be nerfed?

WeyounTM · January 2018

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Closed the “hole” under the stairs at Aleswell.

We really could need a fix for the jumping into the keeps exploit...

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Still lots of people abusing it in EU.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/389822/jumping-walls-with-chain-or-bolt-exploit-or-not-fixing-pvp-nor-not#latest

Jospin Preda · January 2018

nothing about lethal arrow bug in pvp ?

... and about the poor performances and lags ? great !

ChunkyCat · January 2018

Nerf wardens. Their PvP is strong.

VerboseQuips · January 2018

code65536 wrote: »

Twohothardware wrote: »

tamrielwinner wrote: »

the destro ult nerf is unwarranted

There's never been nerfs more warranted than ones applied to Destro Ult lol.

Only one of the morphs needed adjustment, not both.

Why does the PvE gameplay always have to be affected by the problems that are strictly PvP-related?

Tanis-Stormbinder · January 2018

Can we please get a hide shoulders option to the new Outfit system

Loc2262 · January 2018

Didgerion wrote: »

Swernik wrote: »

are the storage chests still 200k telvar? way too expensive!!

Yeah looks like ZOS is trying hard to bring some life in IC.

Agreed. No PvP for me. I'm not going there, no matter how much or little tel var the chests will cost. I'll much rather do master writs.

Alcast · January 2018

WeyounTM wrote: »

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Closed the “hole” under the stairs at Aleswell.

We really could need a fix for the jumping into the keeps exploit...

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Still lots of people abusing it in EU.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/389822/jumping-walls-with-chain-or-bolt-exploit-or-not-fixing-pvp-nor-not#latest

lmao did I just watch spider man entering a keep?

Loc2262 · January 2018

Nox_Noir wrote: »

Destruction Staff

Elemental Storm: Reduced the radius of this ability and its morphs to 8 meters from 10 meters.

Why on earth would you nerf both morphs??? Only eye of the storm was problematic... Why nerf the PVE morph?

I agree. The PVE nerfs being done here to cater to the PVP guys is getting ridiculous. I've yet to hear a worthwhile explanation for why the heck ZOS does not balance PVP and PVE separately.

WeyounTM · January 2018

Alcast wrote: »

lmao did I just watch spider man entering a keep?

Sadly no, only one of the few cool "pro" guys that can actually exploit with impunity. Maybe he will get a special skin awarded for that

TheValar85 · January 2018

Tyrion87 wrote: »

The nerf to pve morph of destro ulti was really unnecessary...

everybody can thank that to the pvp qq-ers while nerfing that speel they should solve the ongoing issues in Cyrodiil with also the emp sales, and haxorz

technohic · January 2018

I honestly feel the destro ult has been nerfed enough. Im sure the diameter decrease has to do with the removal of AOE caps but just make EOTs negatable and that should take care of a lot needed for PvP and you can leave the PvEers alone. Then; groups that stack multiple EOTs then run the risk of having them all negated in a single move. Counter play.

Stonesthrow · January 2018

Would really like to see the population numbers on PVP vs PVE like people who:

PVP 100% of the time

PVP/PVE are 50%/50%

PVP only once or twice a week

PVP not at all, ever, no interest

Then make decisions that affect both worlds according to player participation instead of treating them as equals just because.

technohic · January 2018

Stonesthrow wrote: »

Would really like to see the population numbers on PVP vs PVE like people who:

PVP 100% of the time

PVP/PVE are 50%/50%

PVP only once or twice a week

PVP not at all, ever, no interest

Then make decisions that affect both worlds according to player participation instead of treating them as equals just because.

That seems counter productive. If one does have more participation; part of it could be due to unaddressed issues of the other. Using your idea; it would only get worse from there.

MyrddinEmrys · January 2018

Stop nerfing MagSorcs. We already get beat to crap by Stam now. We don't need our bread and butter AoE reduced in any way...

Please completely separate PVP and PVE. ZoS keeps punishing PVE players because of PVP issues and it is completely unacceptable. Add you nerfs to Battle Spirit and stop screwing over 90% of your players.

Joy_Division · January 2018

I do know why "PvEers" (which is an odd term. I PvP and PvE. What arbitrary label are you going to attach to me?) can not grasp the idea that something can overperform in that part of the game as well.

As a DPS Warden, Sorcerer, Templar, or NB, you will pretty much by default ignore your own class ultimates and use Destro in every situation. (Even as a DK, destro ultimate is more useful in anything not a stationary single target boss fight, which the developers haven't made in a long time).

That's a pretty strong sign that the destro ultimate is too powerful.

Destruent · January 2018

Joy_Division wrote: »

I do know why "PvEers" (which is an odd term. I PvP and PvE. What arbitrary label are you going to attach to me?) can not grasp the idea that something can overperform in that part of the game as well.

As a DPS Warden, Sorcerer, Templar, or NB, you will pretty much by default ignore your own class ultimates and use Destro in every situation. (Even as a DK, destro ultimate is more useful in anything not a stationary single target boss fight, which the developers haven't made in a long time).

That's a pretty strong sign that the destro ultimate is too powerful.

If this is their intention, this nerf won't change anything. Before we had Destro-Ult everyone was using shooting star. Class Ultimates are bad (exception is standard of might) for DPS, that's the problem...not really destro-ult doing too much DPS...

JobooAGS · January 2018

MyrddinEmrys wrote: »

Stop nerfing MagSorcs. We already get beat to crap by Stam now. We don't need our bread and butter AoE reduced in any way...

Please completely separate PVP and PVE. ZoS keeps punishing PVE players because of PVP issues and it is completely unacceptable. Add you nerfs to Battle Spirit and stop screwing over 90% of your players.

nerf nerfs

eso_lags · January 2018

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom you guys should really look at what you're doing to block. I think the idea is good but the reduction is not needed. The thing is, there are plenty of mag dks and magplars that perma block on damage dealing builds and dont use block glyphs and just go full sturdy with 75 into block CP... theres gotta be a better way.

also please fix the lag on console or the game is unplayable anyway, and none of this matters.

SodanTok · January 2018

Loc2262 wrote: »

Nox_Noir wrote: »

Destruction Staff

Elemental Storm: Reduced the radius of this ability and its morphs to 8 meters from 10 meters.

Why on earth would you nerf both morphs??? Only eye of the storm was problematic... Why nerf the PVE morph?

I agree. The PVE nerfs being done here to cater to the PVP guys is getting ridiculous. I've yet to hear a worthwhile explanation for why the heck ZOS does not balance PVP and PVE separately.

VerboseQuips wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Twohothardware wrote: »

tamrielwinner wrote: »

the destro ult nerf is unwarranted

There's never been nerfs more warranted than ones applied to Destro Ult lol.

Only one of the morphs needed adjustment, not both.

Why does the PvE gameplay always have to be affected by the problems that are strictly PvP-related?

Jeez. They LITERALLY nerfed base skill of ability that has DISTINCT PVP and PVE morph. How much obvious they have to be that they wanted to nerf BOTH of them, without you all crying again because you think it was pvp nerf.

lazerlaz · January 2018

Scattershot weapons now properly note they apply a 20% damage taken debuff to enemy player characters.

Someone please educate me on what this means. I'm only familiar with Scattershot bow ability. Are they saying it now applies this buff? No way... Must be something else.

Solariken · January 2018

Can you guys please have a look at the knockback/CC from Binding/Aurora Javelin? Whenever someone breaks free during the knockback their character rubber bands back and forth several times between the starting location and 8-meter endpoint. Best fix: disallow break free until the target hits the ground.

ManDraKE · January 2018

Solariken wrote: »

Can you guys please have a look at the knockback/CC from Binding/Aurora Javelin? Whenever someone breaks free during the knockback their character rubber bands back and forth several times between the starting location and 8-meter endpoint. Best fix: disallow break free until the target hits the ground.

best fix? lol, that would literaly make the CC unbreakable for a short while. That is the worst fix possible.

Solariken · January 2018

ManDraKE wrote: »

Solariken wrote: »

Can you guys please have a look at the knockback/CC from Binding/Aurora Javelin? Whenever someone breaks free during the knockback their character rubber bands back and forth several times between the starting location and 8-meter endpoint. Best fix: disallow break free until the target hits the ground.

best fix? lol, that would literaly make the CC unbreakable for a short while. That is the worst fix possible.

But they could reduce the time it takes for the target to fly from point A to B. Seriously though, the rubber banding has to stop, it looks like trash and makes it really hard to follow up with another attack.

Ydrisselle · January 2018

Jospin Preda wrote: »

nothing about lethal arrow bug in pvp ? ... and about the poor performances and lags ? great !

These are still not the final patch notes...

KingExecration · January 2018

Solariken wrote: »

ManDraKE wrote: »

Solariken wrote: »

Can you guys please have a look at the knockback/CC from Binding/Aurora Javelin? Whenever someone breaks free during the knockback their character rubber bands back and forth several times between the starting location and 8-meter endpoint. Best fix: disallow break free until the target hits the ground.

best fix? lol, that would literaly make the CC unbreakable for a short while. That is the worst fix possible.

But they could reduce the time it takes for the target to fly from point A to B. Seriously though, the rubber banding has to stop, it looks like trash and makes it really hard to follow up with another attack.

In pvp healers or bad Templars spam the throwing spear and it let's me slide around like I'm scrambling to get up. When That happens I just hope the pugs won't capitalize on me sliding around for 10 seconds. I'd say just change the skill, it's poorly designed for templar as it knocks the enemy out of your jab range. In before I'm criticized for not playing a Templar. I have a altmer and an argonian.