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Nothing is being done about BOTS

VisceralSin
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Hello Zenimax,

Why do you not address the issue of botting? Over the past few months I have submitted over 100 tickets of cheaters botting their way around Tamriel only to return a month later and see the same characters and accounts still botting. You always brag bout how many new players you have and all the money you are making yet you do nothing about the cheating. Reporting the bots also takes up a lot of time. Thanks to players like Drummerx04 and his addon Bot Scanner 2000 esoui.com/downloads/info1818-BotScanner2000.html, it makes reporting easier but still time consuming. The mere fact that someone had to create a bot scanning addon shows how bad the problem is and in which you still continue to ignore. So many players dedicate their time and money to ZOS only to have the game's economy ruined by these cheaters. Please get your act together and address the issue of botting. Streamline the reporting function and stop ignoring the multitude of tickets submitted by players. Why pay a premium for a game that's not properly moderated by Game Masters.

Thank You.
Frustrated Player
  • Apherius
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    487 tickets of cheaters botting their way around Tamriel over here !

    Who say more ? Who ?
    Edited by Apherius on December 24, 2017 9:06PM
  • Colecovision
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    I ask this in about half these threads and never get an answer. How exactly are they killing the economy? Doesn’t dreugh wax still cost too much? It takes 56 for a full 7 piece set. I farm mats and have full bank space, full inventory on more than one character, many houses, gold gear and the money keeps coming.

    What are you actually losing and how much do you really need?
  • Belyar
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    And why do you care about bots honestly? Just let them be. They don't bother anyone ( at least they never bothered me, you can still do whatever you want to )
  • Judas Helviaryn
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    Belyar wrote: »
    And why do you care about bots honestly? Just let them be. They don't bother anyone ( at least they never bothered me, you can still do whatever you want to )

    Because they gain an unfair advantage in the game, push newbies out of grind spots, wreck the in-game economy, and reward cheating.

    Why are you defending people who cheat?
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    This issue could be mostly resolved if ZoS integrated Hardware ID bans but then they would not make more money on new accounts and be able to tell the world there are 10 million accounts ... Until publishers stop profiting from cheaters and perma remove their ability to reconnect with the game , it will never end bots .
  • LiquidPony
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    Well see, the bots introduce a whole new dimension to ESO gameplay.

    Sometimes I find a group of bots and spend an hour preventing them from killing or looting enemies

    And very rarely, I'll find a small group of bots in a place where I can drag adds onto them to kill them. That's pretty fun.

    Without the bots, what would I do with my spare time?
  • notimetocare
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    Thanks to ineffiency of bot programs and the lack of a global AH, buts are a minor problem. Not worth their time over performance
  • code65536
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    As long as there are people going onto those websites to buy gold and gold mats with real cash, this sort of thing will be profitable.

    Whether it's bots or some kid in a poor country paid to grind, both the cause and the end result are the same.
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  • NeKryXe
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    hey that addon is amazing! :) i had a lot of trouble recently to track hundreds of cheaters in a farming train, took me many hours during many days, this addon could have help me a lot.

    unfortunately i never got any answer from zos and they kept closing my reports.

    i'm tempted to start using this addon, but in other way i completely lost the trust on zos to ban the cheaters.
  • LadyAstrum
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    Belyar wrote: »
    And why do you care about bots honestly? Just let them be. They don't bother anyone ( at least they never bothered me, you can still do whatever you want to )

    Use bots much?

    They shouldn't be there, and they can interfere with gameplay under certain circumstances.

    They are also a sign people are making money off the game by selling gold to lazy (gimme gold now) people.
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  • Wonderdog1
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    just started playing again recently and have been reporting bots everytime is encounter them. theres been a train running for 4 days in rivenspire, SW corner.
    all the reports just get marked solved, and nothing has been done. cant understand why they seem to be ignoring bots in this game, when other mmos do try to remove them as best as possible. encourages gold selling etc and anyone saying they do no harm, i assume is /has, used such a thing in the past themselves.
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Just reported another bot train in Shadowfen yesterday ... is there no zone that will go untouched?
  • Wonderdog1
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    its a joke, and really off putting. i cant recall seeing soo many bots as obvious as this in any of the big main mmos recently at all. They all do have them , but this seems way out of hand.

    asked about the bot problem in a guild and was trolled and generally given abuse. its a bad sign when ,by the looks of it, a large portion of the games playerbase accepts bots as something normal.
  • ThinkerOfThings
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    ZOS isn't going to tell you what they are going to do to another person's account, the same way they wouldn't tell other people about what they may have done to your account, so don't expect a response that says "WE BANNED THIS PERSON TO OBLIVION FOREVERRRRRRRR!" We all know this is a problem and so does ZOS, so if you want to help, please report every Bot you see and make sure to put as much information about name/account, locations, race and class and why you suspect they are a Bot. When they have available time they will go and investigate.
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  • Juju_beans
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    The more popular a game is the more bots you'll see. Seems to just come with the territory these days for most MMO's.

    Too many "players" want to play only parts of the game and buy the rest of it and that includes leveling.
    Edited by Juju_beans on December 29, 2017 9:55PM
  • Resfeber
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    I wonder how persistent the bots are. If it's anything like the spam on Bethesda.net the moderators over there (Or PseronWyrd at least) is often heard saying that killing them just pops more up. And if you're cruising those forums you can see them doing this for hours. Unless they're paying someone to babysit these areas all day (which I doubt given the distinct lack of magical GMs) I wouldn't doubt they're taking down some of these guys and that they're just popping back up like daisies.

    Of course that's just a bit of optimistic assumption and isn't really an excuse or solution. If they can't destroy the trains they need a way of identifying these guys faster and shutting them down before they even start.
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  • Zordrage
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    all these people say how bad this is looooooooooooool

    non of you ever played a Battleground in WoW huh ? espeially at night ? HUNDREDS of bots... sometimes outright 40vs 40 matches where 35 of thema re bots and auto following you LOOOL not joking..

    and thats a Multimillion company... you cant win againts bots... you can remove them next day they are back... you can stop them for a few weeks max with a BIG ban sweep and game patches changes... but they come back in droves...

    seriously with how many mmos i played and how many crazy bottings i saw... Eso stands in a prety good place when it comes to bots to be honest..
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    Edited by Zordrage on December 30, 2017 12:42AM
  • Saturn
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    NeKryXe wrote: »
    hey that addon is amazing! :) i had a lot of trouble recently to track hundreds of cheaters in a farming train, took me many hours during many days, this addon could have help me a lot.

    unfortunately i never got any answer from zos and they kept closing my reports.

    i'm tempted to start using this addon, but in other way i completely lost the trust on zos to ban the cheaters.

    O, how grand were the days of yore, when antiboty roamed Tamriel, smiting all the bots with his mighty banhammer!
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  • firedrgn
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    Well i wish i coupd play as much as some of u seem to beable to play.
  • Kevin_of_Devinshire
    I almost got run over by a bot train dropping off the fish for NLF. Scared me because I thought my toes would get stepped on and they are really sensitive.
    Edited by Kevin_of_Devinshire on December 30, 2017 2:56AM
  • Dojohoda
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    I said hello to the bots, but they didn't say hello back. :'(

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  • Slick_007
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    NeKryXe wrote: »

    unfortunately i never got any answer from zos and they kept closing my reports.

    you do not get told about account actions ZOS take against someone elses account. Its none of your business. What you saw is what you should see. unless you want a default 'thanks, we'll look into it', then no doubt people would just whine they got an auto response.
  • Elsonso
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    I almost got run over by a bot train dropping off the fish for NLF. Scared me because I thought my toes would get stepped on and they are really sensitive.

    There have been bot trains that pass by both Percolating Mire and Hissmir wayshrines on PC NA. I have not seen the one at Hissmir lately, but the Percolating Mire one is still running all these months later. On a positive note, the King of Shadowfen seems to be dead or retired. That was the name I gave the bot I saw there the most over the last 5 months.
    Dojohoda wrote: »
    I said hello to the bots, but they didn't say hello back. :'(

    It would probably be a simple task to have them throw a "hi" back at you, too. The wretches. :smile:



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  • Vulsahdaal
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    Saturn wrote: »
    NeKryXe wrote: »
    hey that addon is amazing! :) i had a lot of trouble recently to track hundreds of cheaters in a farming train, took me many hours during many days, this addon could have help me a lot.

    unfortunately i never got any answer from zos and they kept closing my reports.

    i'm tempted to start using this addon, but in other way i completely lost the trust on zos to ban the cheaters.

    O, how grand were the days of yore, when antiboty roamed Tamriel, smiting all the bots with his mighty banhammer!


    Yep, those were the days.. *sigh* Remember when?

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  • ArvenAldmeri
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    Belyar wrote: »
    And why do you care about bots honestly? Just let them be. They don't bother anyone ( at least they never bothered me, you can still do whatever you want to )

    To answer your question, I once went to farm for mudcrab trophy, I come to spot thats filled with mudcrabs to get it done and what I dont see. A train of bots farming mudcrabs. So are you sure this doesnt bother anyone? ;)
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  • Zaldan
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    If ZO$ ban them too fast they might not buy another copy/account #10million$torie$



    umm I feel another ban incoming lol
    Edited by Zaldan on December 30, 2017 2:05PM
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  • Armatesz
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    Bots collect the hides, have a crafter among them that scraps them for wax, marks down the value of said item. Takes money and buys other high expensive items and resells those for lower than the value they buy them for so they can drive down the market value. It is an actual real thing. There are also plenty of those bot farmers that are actually being held by those scammers for buying gold. Buyer beware as they say.
    There are other forms of this stuff as well outside of this but this is from what I can verify as true.
    Another part of the market never being stable as they say I guess. Kind of like counterfeit money but with less ways to defend against.
    I seriously think zos needs to get some work on banning and even system banning bots.
    Edited by Armatesz on December 30, 2017 2:06PM
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  • Drummerx04
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    NeKryXe wrote: »
    hey that addon is amazing! :) i had a lot of trouble recently to track hundreds of cheaters in a farming train, took me many hours during many days, this addon could have help me a lot.

    unfortunately i never got any answer from zos and they kept closing my reports.

    i'm tempted to start using this addon, but in other way i completely lost the trust on zos to ban the cheaters.

    Always nice to see positive feedback, thank you!
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  • Apherius
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    Apherius wrote: »
    487 tickets of cheaters botting their way around Tamriel over here !

    Who say more ? Who ?

    524 now.
  • Wonderdog1
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    day 5 and the bot train is still in the same place lol

    using that bot addon now myself, makes reporting alot easier, good job.
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