InvitationNotFound wrote: »

sounds like ***. sorry to say, but this sounds like you try to screw group play in favor or more zerging.
reduce how organized groups can act in favor of 50+ players stacking at a point spaming ranged ***.

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

HaroniNDeorum wrote: »

InvitationNotFound wrote: »

sounds like ***. sorry to say, but this sounds like you try to screw group play in favor or more zerging.
reduce how organized groups can act in favor of 50+ players stacking at a point spaming ranged ***.

Exactly this. As i always say, looks like this game wants a mindless zerg pvp of 50+ players in same spot instead of very well organized guilds spread on the map, making the game a real competition and high-quality fights.

IF they really want to kill organized guilds in favor of casual mindless zergs, fine. Long Live ZOS.

but pressing R at the same time and holding shift is totally a high quality fight, right ?

• Rework support set so it benefits stam and mag player at the same time(e.g. sunder and night mother provide both physical and magical pen) and introduce new support sets for mag dds(e.g. a set that would give 10% more elemental and physical damage taken on a target). This would help to mix raid groups more since if you already have enough stam support sets in group it is only beneficial to get another stam dd in group. Also mixed support sets would also make it more interesting for raid groups to get the best setup and would help a little to prevent to stack as many as possible fotm dd(at the moment stam dk for all trials except vAS).
• rework the damage reduction from dual wield to major something and give a tank a set that provides this buff for 12 people in trials. This should help to make bow/bow or 2h/bow more viable in trials. Alternative give other weapons-builds also access to this buff. (Maybe evil hunter)
• Rethink maybe a few morrowind sustain slaughter changes since heavy attacking spam is less fun and feels less skillful than if you carefully watch not to miss a light attack. It also removed the resource provider role of healers more or less. Before morrowind healers were responsible that dds never run out of resources and if they do it was the healers fault. (e.g 2 different orbs, orbs worked on the whole grp, spears...)
• in general all spammable skills are too expensive (force pulse costs 2.4k magica on a pve build)

• destructive reach(and all morphes): way to expensive without master destro staff and the dot is extrem weak
• impulse(and all morphes): too expensive after morrowind
• Siphon spirit: it has a cast time and the minor magicka steal is already given by elemental drain
• expert hunter(and all morphes): kinda lackbuster that does nothing interesting
• scalding rune: maybe one of the weakest dots in the game
• blood altar(and all morphes): the skill it self is not so bad but the synergy is really impossible to get and also kinda lackbuster
• tapping webs((and all morphes)): really one of the most useless skills after the last change to this skill(too expensive and too little damage) and what is even worse it hat the synergy does not work on any kind of boss enemy since they can not be snared
• inner fire(and all morphes): kinda strange with only chance to activate synergy
• bone shield(and all morphes): also a lackbuster for both dd and tanks

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone,

We’re also beginning to look at ways to improve group combat in Cyrodiil, particularly when groups of varying sizes fight each other. Some specific concerns we’ve been looking into include:

• Not enough effective options to deal damage to clustered groups from afar
• Earthgore is too powerful in group vs group battles
• Not enough diversity in Ultimate choice
• Large groups can have players take on specialized utility roles, reducing counter-play options against them

We’re still talking about what exactly we’ll be doing, but once we have a better idea of the direction we’re taking, we’ll include it in one of the next combat updates.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Finally, once Update 17 is available on the PTS, you’ll notice that not many class abilities have changed. We’ve instead focused our efforts on the things we previously talked to you about, including:

[*] Synergy improvements

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone,

First, apologies for the delay in getting this month’s combat update published. We greatly appreciate the amount of constructive feedback you provided in our first combat update last month, and we plan to continue providing regular updates. With that said, we want to be clear that each month may not be as meaty; it depends on where we are in our development cycle. That doesn’t mean we’re doing less work, but just that we’re in more of a polishing phase rather than working on large changes.

Since we posted the November update, we’ve been mainly focusing on fixing bugs (some that you’ve seen in recent incremental patches, but most of are still internal and for Update 17) and doing some work for Update 18, which we aren’t quite ready to discuss yet. We’re still moving full steam ahead with the synergy improvements we talked about last month, which you’ll see when Update 17 hits the PTS. We’re also continuing to work on improving interrupt, including adding a short cooldown to any interrupted ability. We noticed some confusion when we first mentioned this change, so we’d like to clarify: the reasoning behind this change is to add more strategic play when you interrupt another player’s ability, and in turn give players using abilities with a cast time an opportunity to use them against other players who repeatedly use interrupts.

Another thing you’ll see when Update 17 goes to the PTS is a reduction in damage for some charge abilities. Decreasing their damage is going to ensure that at-range players who are utilizing movement and terrain to maintain their distance from melee enemies are better rewarded for that tactical advantage.

Last month, we mentioned that we were looking at shortening the Heavy Attack cooldown, but ultimately decided not to go with this change to avoid making too many dramatic changes at once.

We’re also beginning to look at ways to improve group combat in Cyrodiil, particularly when groups of varying sizes fight each other. Some specific concerns we’ve been looking into include:

• Not enough effective options to deal damage to clustered groups from afar
• Earthgore is too powerful in group vs group battles
• Not enough diversity in Ultimate choice
• Large groups can have players take on specialized utility roles, reducing counter-play options against them

We’re still talking about what exactly we’ll be doing, but once we have a better idea of the direction we’re taking, we’ll include it in one of the next combat updates.

Finally, once Update 17 is available on the PTS, you’ll notice that not many class abilities have changed. We’ve instead focused our efforts on the things we previously talked to you about, including:

• Synergy improvements
• Updates to cast time and channeled abilities
• Block cost changes
• Improvements to off-balance and Heavy Attacks

We look forward to having everyone try these changes on the PTS for Update 17. Again, please remember what’s listed here isn’t everything the team is working on. Keep the feedback coming, and thanks for your continued input!

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Vanthras79 wrote: »

Thanks Gina for the update!

When can we expect to see update 17 on the pts and what is update 17? (yes I know i am searching for nuggets )

You'll find out soon enough.

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Hmm, the nerf to gapclosers might be unneeded. Ranged builds already have the advantage of attacking from height without fear, requiring melee to be closer, and generally better options to flee.

even less reasons to use vMA 2h now..

other than that,
I might seriously drop 2h if they nerf crit rush.
already enjoying dual wield on my new stam warden for a while now.

having major expedition for 10 seconds beats having a gapcloser.

IF you don't have a speed buff, a.k.a. stamDK, then your life just got more miserable I guess.