Completely and Utterly UNDERWHELMED by Transmutation Crystals Drops

ookami007 · October 2017

What's this 1 and 2 crystal garbage from vet dungeons and vet pledges? REALLY? Are you THAT sadistic ZoS? It's a rhetorical question, because the answers is blatantly obvious.

Perhaps now is a good time to take a respite from the ZoS insanity.

max_only · October 2017

Can I have your stuff?

Avran_Sylt · October 2017

And, what about the ones from the First Daily Random? The first Rewards for the Worthy?

ThePrinceOfBargains · October 2017

Replaced one grindfest with another. Not even bothering with it.

GrigorijMalahevich · October 2017

ookami007 wrote: »

What's this 1 and 2 crystal garbage from vet dungeons and vet pledges? REALLY? Are you THAT sadistic ZoS? It's a rhetorical question, because the answers is blatantly obvious.

Perhaps now is a good time to take a respite from the ZoS insanity.

Next time you think about "ZoS insanity" think about how such companies make _such_ decissions... they gather in a meeting room and discuss logic before implementing something that new. The need of transmute crystals was very high since Orsinium DLC and first vMA clear...

Supply and demand logic tells you that you can't offer cheap transmute crystals as supply is low and demand is high = very high cost (in terms of game time).

Same thing when level caps was increased from v14 to v16 and people started to rework v16 looted gear and get 1 mat... the grind was real and in couple of patches first in Orsinium and then in couple of patches - everywhere, players started to see cp160 materials "growing".

Solypsys · October 2017

What did you expect, to have full BIS traits on all your gear after 1 hour? The transmutation system is meant to serve as a backup, it's still worthwhile to farm the content for the gear you want just now after ~30 runs you have a failsafe.

dpencil1 · October 2017

Same complaint as when Master Writs came out. "Ah! The drop rate of Master Writs and housing craft materials is too low!"

People want to do everything immediately when a new system comes out, even though its been expressly designed as a long-term goal type system.

soll · October 2017

Solypsys wrote: »

What did you expect, to have full BIS traits on all your gear after 1 hour? The transmutation system is meant to serve as a backup, it's still worthwhile to farm the content for the gear you want just now after ~30 runs you have a failsafe.

yea, that's exactly what people wants from MMO, lol! all BIS in few runs.

LordGavus · October 2017

Solypsys wrote: »

What did you expect, to have full BIS traits on all your gear after 1 hour? The transmutation system is meant to serve as a backup, it's still worthwhile to farm the content for the gear you want just now after ~30 runs you have a failsafe.

This.
It may just be me but I assumed it was implemented as a back up. To save me running content 100 times and still failing to get the right trait.

I don't think the idea was ever 'run a dungeon twice, get gear, retrait everything'.

I've been using a poor trait monster shoulder since last year (despite spending 100s of keys), now I can fix that.
That is the purpose of the transmute system.

MLGProPlayer · October 2017

Even if it's just 1 crystal per dungeon run, that's still better than running a single piece of content 500-1000 times for a weapon in a specific trait. 50 runs to get a weapon in the trait you want is nothing.

Kihamai · October 2017

This is why I saved a lot of completed pledges on various characters for patch day. It brought me about halfway to 50 transmutation crystals. I was expecting it to be slow lol.

JamieAubrey · October 2017

They are going to make you work for it you know, here take these 100 crystals and go and chance that trait on your vMA staff

NOPE, AINT THAT EASY

Eatmyface · October 2017

Lol.

You thought it'd be that easy? That there would be a 10 minute solution - i.e. transmute stones, to negate the need for hundreds of runs through VMA?

ZOS_Mika · October 2017

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Bevik · October 2017

Be happy they are not selling crystal packages for Crowns like in other games. Some gears are easier to farm than farm the crystal itself and that is completely ok. Transmutation is not something which meant to be replace farming. You still farm but also gather crystals along the way and at the end you are able to change couple of your rubbish traits. To be honest it's a brilliant system and the best solution to reduce the farm time and the RNG headache won't make you aggressive. [Snip]
[Edit to remove bait]

Tandor · October 2017

I suppose it was pretty predictable that with people having clamored for so long for transmutation, they wouldn't like it when they got it. There are far too many "glass half-empty" people playing this game

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vyndral13preub18_ESO · October 2017

I can understand some of the complaints. It is annoying to have your anti rng. device polluted by rng.

Im probably in that group. Id rather get 2 every dungeon then some purple balls taunting me with 10 but almost always giving me 1-2. I know in my head it probably evens out. But Mostly failing over and over isn’t fun.

idk · October 2017

I'd suggest contributing to the thread linked below rather than this one.

The OP of that thread provided some good constructive criticism and a solid suggestion.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/377184/uncracked-transmution-geode-zos-stop-fixing-rng-with-more-rng#latest

DocFrost72 · October 2017

Solypsys wrote: »

What did you expect, to have full BIS traits on all your gear after 1 hour? The transmutation system is meant to serve as a backup, it's still worthwhile to farm the content for the gear you want just now after ~30 runs you have a failsafe.

^^^^^

I don't think I'll ever use transmute crystals on anything other than monster shoulders or arena weapons. Imo, working as intended.

essi2 · October 2017

Not going to bother grinding these. It is literally just replacing the normal gear grind.

s7732425ub17_ESO · October 2017

You don't need to grind these. Just doing what you normally do in game will easily get you 50 crystals/week or more. I know some people who are already maxed out, and the patch has only been out for one day. Retraiting gear is not supposed to be something you are supposed to do often. It's like resetting skills- doing it every once in a while is fine. But if you are resetting your skills every day, there's something wrong.

ookami007 · October 2017

Calysis wrote: »

This is why I saved a lot of completed pledges on various characters for patch day. It brought me about halfway to 50 transmutation crystals. I was expecting it to be slow lol.

Geez... that was really smart. I wish I had thought to do that. I could have turned in well over a dozen pledges if I had saved them on my various toons.

Kalante · October 2017

Wait a minute... you expected to not get zos'd by the new transmutation mechanic? how silly.

ookami007 · October 2017

Kalante wrote: »

Wait a minute... you expected to not get zos'd by the new transmutation mechanic? how silly.

They ZoS'ed me!

Vanzen · October 2017

what the hell you talking about ?!

It takes 15minutes of pvp everyday day with every char to get an avearge of 10 crystals each.

Ulfgarde · October 2017

The RNG is fine imho.

You get free crystals alongside what you would normally do. It makes sense for it to not give out too much; it's a damn trait change that would normally require hours of dedicated farming. In PvP it's even nicer because you can get (on average) like what @Vanzen said, which means even less farming for PvPers who don't want to touch PvE.

I'm just so glad I no longer need to do full runs of vDSA / vMA that would take an hour to do per run for a specific trait. The change is really, really nice and justifiable.

Chrysa1is · October 2017

@Valera Progib

Crown Crates aren't logic though

Rouven · October 2017

Vanzen wrote: »

what the hell you talking about ?!

It takes 15minutes of pvp everyday day with every char to get an avearge of 10 crystals each.

They are trying to force me to PVP!?!

On the one side I'm just stirring the pot because I knew from the start that those crystals are not meant for me, on the other hand I find it lame if there is such a high discrepancy (as perceived here right now).

Integral1900 · October 2017

Well, twelve vet dungeons down, two pledges per alt across six charecters... lmao... aaaaaannnnnnndddddd... zip... denada... nought... the square route of naff all

nimander99 · October 2017

I'm intensely frustrated that, as a crafter, I don't do any of the things that earn me these transmute stones... Coming soon to Crown Store, Transmute Stones. Bet ya anything.

Ir0nB34r · October 2017

The transmutation system is exactly what I needed. I am not too keen on running some vet dungeons like Bloodroot to get BiS traits on monster helms. With transmutation I only needed to run that dungeon once to get the helm and then just do far easier content to build up crystals to transmute it to a better trait.