Wizards Riposte vs Combat Physician...

Lexxypwns · October 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Wizards is just much more flexible and has a high uptime, I honestly don't see why anyone would trade it out for a few shields that'll get easily bursted when they can potentially have a 100 percent uptime with wizards.

The shield doesn't even prevent you from eating a massive crit and dying, since you can still register a crit and the overflow damage WILL crit the health pool, whereas the ~8-10% real mitigation most builds will see from riposte actually gives you MORE benefit the higher the incoming damage.

CP has a cap on effectiveness and its quite a bit too low to be viable in the same array of situations as riposte. In a very niche situation then CP is worth slotting but its not broad enough to justify losing the "aoe" maim.

Yeah I just feel like the set is too good in a multitude of scenarios and with multiple builds. You can go support, healer or dps with wizards, I for one wouldn't even consider CP as a healer.

You might not consider Combat Physician, but I have, and use it for all content; its much better than many of you believe...

Read the link in my signature; I do dps, support, and heal...and its all done with the Combat Physician gear set.

I easily put out 20k damage every 6 seconds by MYSELF on a target. GG your arguement and goodbye

Flowersquisher · October 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Wizards is just much more flexible and has a high uptime, I honestly don't see why anyone would trade it out for a few shields that'll get easily bursted when they can potentially have a 100 percent uptime with wizards.

The shield doesn't even prevent you from eating a massive crit and dying, since you can still register a crit and the overflow damage WILL crit the health pool, whereas the ~8-10% real mitigation most builds will see from riposte actually gives you MORE benefit the higher the incoming damage.

CP has a cap on effectiveness and its quite a bit too low to be viable in the same array of situations as riposte. In a very niche situation then CP is worth slotting but its not broad enough to justify losing the "aoe" maim.

Yeah I just feel like the set is too good in a multitude of scenarios and with multiple builds. You can go support, healer or dps with wizards, I for one wouldn't even consider CP as a healer.

You might not consider Combat Physician, but I have, and use it for all content; its much better than many of you believe...

Read the link in my signature; I do dps, support, and heal...and its all done with the Combat Physician gear set.

All you are REALLY doing is wasting 5 slots

TheDoomsdayMonster · October 2017

Flowersquisher wrote: »

You are definitely hell bent on using CP, and that's great, each to there own.That said, on paper CP looks ok at best, but in reality (yes i have tried it) it is a weak set for a pvp healer. I'm not going to say WR is better, but CP IS a weak healer set. For light armor sets in PVP, transmutation, mending , sanctuary are all going to outperform a randomly place weak damage shield. But if you feel it works for you and your group is happy having you heal them with CP, go for it.

Combat Physician is far from weak...

The numbers support my belief as pertains this...

If you have some numbers that say otherwise, I'd love to see them; I've already numerically demonstrated the superiority of Combat Physician over Riposte...

Lets see your numbers that say otherwise...

Flowersquisher · October 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Flowersquisher wrote: »

You are definitely hell bent on using CP, and that's great, each to there own.That said, on paper CP looks ok at best, but in reality (yes i have tried it) it is a weak set for a pvp healer. I'm not going to say WR is better, but CP IS a weak healer set. For light armor sets in PVP, transmutation, mending , sanctuary are all going to outperform a randomly place weak damage shield. But if you feel it works for you and your group is happy having you heal them with CP, go for it.

Combat Physician is far from weak...

The numbers support my belief as pertains this...

If you have some numbers that say otherwise, I'd love to see them; I've already numerically demonstrated the superiority of Combat Physician over Riposte...

Lets see your numbers that say otherwise...

As i said earlier, it looks OK at best on paper, but in actual use you are just hurting you and your team by not slotting a better 5pc set, as if also pointed out above
Anyway, as I have also already said, if you and your team are happy with a weak shield versus almost any other light heal set, then great. Anyway, have fun

TheDoomsdayMonster · October 2017

Flowersquisher wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Flowersquisher wrote: »

Keep in mind, your opponent is going to say "focus healer first", so as soon as you are noticed healing your team you are going to get rekt. CP in all but niche situations is not a good set to be relying on, even transmutation would be better.

Well we agree to disagree, and there have been many times I've been focused fired upon and survived btw...

Maybe so, but you didn't survive because of CP, lets be honest here, IF it procs on you while being focused, that shield isn't what is going to save you

You havent used the set as extensively as I have...

This is what typically happens when I'm being Focused Fired upon:

1) They damage me; depending on how bad I'm hurt, I will either hit BoL or let my HoT's get me back up...
2) Usually one of them will proc the damage shield...
3) I'll Mist Form and kite around until Mist Form is ended or its safe to switch bars (the damage shield is active during Mist Form btw)...
4) Heal with a HoT or BoL depending on the circumstance (which usually re-procs the damage shield if I have a few seconds)...
5) Go back into Mist Form (with the Damage Shield in place) and kite some more...
6) Repeat as needed...

I assure you I can be very difficult to kill with that tactic and the Damage Shield will eat alot of damage during that time...

TheDoomsdayMonster · October 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Wizards is just much more flexible and has a high uptime, I honestly don't see why anyone would trade it out for a few shields that'll get easily bursted when they can potentially have a 100 percent uptime with wizards.

The shield doesn't even prevent you from eating a massive crit and dying, since you can still register a crit and the overflow damage WILL crit the health pool, whereas the ~8-10% real mitigation most builds will see from riposte actually gives you MORE benefit the higher the incoming damage.

CP has a cap on effectiveness and its quite a bit too low to be viable in the same array of situations as riposte. In a very niche situation then CP is worth slotting but its not broad enough to justify losing the "aoe" maim.

Yeah I just feel like the set is too good in a multitude of scenarios and with multiple builds. You can go support, healer or dps with wizards, I for one wouldn't even consider CP as a healer.

You might not consider Combat Physician, but I have, and use it for all content; its much better than many of you believe...

Read the link in my signature; I do dps, support, and heal...and its all done with the Combat Physician gear set.

I easily put out 20k damage every 6 seconds by MYSELF on a target. GG your arguement and goodbye

If you are putting out 20k damage every 6 seconds, then Combat Physician is negating more damage than Riposte over that time span...

Combat Physician is thus superior when facing you than Riposte would be...

TheDoomsdayMonster · October 2017

Flowersquisher wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Flowersquisher wrote: »

You are definitely hell bent on using CP, and that's great, each to there own.That said, on paper CP looks ok at best, but in reality (yes i have tried it) it is a weak set for a pvp healer. I'm not going to say WR is better, but CP IS a weak healer set. For light armor sets in PVP, transmutation, mending , sanctuary are all going to outperform a randomly place weak damage shield. But if you feel it works for you and your group is happy having you heal them with CP, go for it.

Combat Physician is far from weak...

The numbers support my belief as pertains this...

If you have some numbers that say otherwise, I'd love to see them; I've already numerically demonstrated the superiority of Combat Physician over Riposte...

Lets see your numbers that say otherwise...

As i said earlier, it looks OK at best on paper, but in actual use you are just hurting you and your team by not slotting a better 5pc set, as if also pointed out above
Anyway, as I have also already said, if you and your team are happy with a weak shield versus almost any other light heal set, then great. Anyway, have fun

What are you basing your belief on?

I'm backing my argument up with the math which has more substance than what you are debating with...

TheDoomsdayMonster · October 2017

Flowersquisher wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Wizards is just much more flexible and has a high uptime, I honestly don't see why anyone would trade it out for a few shields that'll get easily bursted when they can potentially have a 100 percent uptime with wizards.

The shield doesn't even prevent you from eating a massive crit and dying, since you can still register a crit and the overflow damage WILL crit the health pool, whereas the ~8-10% real mitigation most builds will see from riposte actually gives you MORE benefit the higher the incoming damage.

CP has a cap on effectiveness and its quite a bit too low to be viable in the same array of situations as riposte. In a very niche situation then CP is worth slotting but its not broad enough to justify losing the "aoe" maim.

Yeah I just feel like the set is too good in a multitude of scenarios and with multiple builds. You can go support, healer or dps with wizards, I for one wouldn't even consider CP as a healer.

You might not consider Combat Physician, but I have, and use it for all content; its much better than many of you believe...

Read the link in my signature; I do dps, support, and heal...and its all done with the Combat Physician gear set.

All you are REALLY doing is wasting 5 slots

Based on?

Joy_Division · October 2017

This times I need strong gear is when I am getting attacked by multiple enemies and that means for myself and players who feel similarly, Riposte is going to be the more efficient set and by a fair margin

TheDoomsdayMonster · October 2017

Joy_Division wrote: »

This times I need strong gear is when I am getting attacked by multiple enemies and that means for myself and players who feel similarly, Riposte is going to be the more efficient set and by a fair margin

If you are being Focus Fired upon (as a Healer) by multiple attackers, then Riposte will negate more damage than Combat Physician will; no question...

But thats the basic flaw with the gear set (as pertains it functioning as a support tool); you MUST be the subject of Focus Fire to get the most benefit from it...that is not optional...it is required.

If you, as a healer, are not being hit (and not just hit, but Critically Hit) then your group is getting ZERO BENEFIT from your 5th piece bonus...

Think about that for a moment...

Wizards Riposte can be good, but (IMHO) if its being "good" (debuffing multiple enemies), then the enemy has broken through your ranks, Focusing on your Healer, and your group is probably doomed as a result...

Forget the math; based on that simple thought exercise alone, Combat Physician is superior to Wizards Riposte...

TheDoomsdayMonster · October 2017

Berenhir wrote: »

The only spec with any use for combat physician is a magsorc with surge.

Incorrect...

My sig features a build (for a Magicka Templar) that utilizes it very efficiently and effectively...

Minno · October 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Berenhir wrote: »

The only spec with any use for combat physician is a magsorc with surge.

Incorrect...

My sig features a build (for a Magicka Templar) that utilizes it very efficiently and effectively...

We really need to see your build in action. Can you take video? If you have shadow play/PC, just upload some raw scenes quick.

Joy_Division · October 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

This times I need strong gear is when I am getting attacked by multiple enemies and that means for myself and players who feel similarly, Riposte is going to be the more efficient set and by a fair margin

If you are being Focus Fired upon (as a Healer) by multiple attackers, then Riposte will negate more damage than Combat Physician will; no question...

But thats the basic flaw with the gear set (as pertains it functioning as a support tool); you MUST be the subject of Focus Fire to get the most benefit from it...that is not optional...it is required.

That's not a flaw. That's a blessing.

TheDoomsdayMonster · October 2017

Minno wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Berenhir wrote: »

The only spec with any use for combat physician is a magsorc with surge.

Incorrect...

My sig features a build (for a Magicka Templar) that utilizes it very efficiently and effectively...

We really need to see your build in action. Can you take video? If you have shadow play/PC, just upload some raw scenes quick.

Ps4

Rianai · October 2017

So you are looking at a situation, where 1.) you have plenty of allies arround to protect you and b) low pressure from enemies, that aren't able to "break" through your ranks. Which occurs mostly when unorganized zergs are poking each other from range, right? Because that's the only situation, where you can just sit in the back and not get hit as a healer. A situation that is compareable to open-world-pve - everything works, just play whatever you want, it doesn't really matter, as long you got the bigger zerg. I'm not trying to be offensive here, that's just how cyrodiil works most of the time and it is ok, as long people are having fun.

But when people (including myself) are discussing the efficiency of gear, they are usually looking at more demanding situations. Where gear can really make a difference. And in pvp this usually means, playing against organized zergs and/or fighting outnumbered. And in both cases enemies will push trough your ranks and you have to push them. Not getting hit isn't an option. You said, "the group is doomed", if that happens, but a good group is not. Good healers can keep their team and themself alive, even when everyone is under high pressure. And that's where Riposte outperformes CP by a large margin. When it really matters ...

TheDoomsdayMonster · October 2017

Rianai wrote: »

So you are looking at a situation, where 1.) you have plenty of allies arround to protect you and b) low pressure from enemies, that aren't able to "break" through your ranks. Which occurs mostly when unorganized zergs are poking each other from range, right? Because that's the only situation, where you can just sit in the back and not get hit as a healer. A situation that is compareable to open-world-pve - everything works, just play whatever you want, it doesn't really matter, as long you got the bigger zerg. I'm not trying to be offensive here, that's just how cyrodiil works most of the time and it is ok, as long people are having fun.

But when people (including myself) are discussing the efficiency of gear, they are usually looking at more demanding situations. Where gear can really make a difference. And in pvp this usually means, playing against organized zergs and/or fighting outnumbered. And in both cases enemies will push trough your ranks and you have to push them. Not getting hit isn't an option. You said, "the group is doomed", if that happens, but a good group is not. Good healers can keep their team and themself alive, even when everyone is under high pressure. And that's where Riposte outperformes CP by a large margin. When it really matters...

And whats your proof of that?

With Combat Physician I know for a fact that its proccing every 6 secs in big demanding fights and is thus completely negating 41k damage per minute...

When the group is under high pressure is when Combat Physician is at its best btw; everyone is getting hit and everyone is recieving HoT heals, so somebody is getting the Damage Shield as soon as its cool down is up (and it will proc even if I'm in Mist Form)...

And the beautiful thing about it is that Combat Physician gives its full benefit passively...

I can put down a Healing circle outside of the keep, enter the keep, and any friendly that gets inside the circle and recieves a crit heal will get the shield...

So many times I am just moving from place to place and I'll see that blue flash come from my chest piece alerting me to the fact that someone...somewhere...just recieved my 5th piece benefit, and at zero risk to me.

In short, we agree to disagree about these two gear sets Rianai...

I "get" what people like about Riposte; I definitely see how it can be valuable...

But what I dont get (and its the main reason I created this thread) is why some of you think so lowly about Combat Physician; I have used SPC, Julianos, Healers Habit, Transmutation, and many more sets, but I keep coming back to Combat Physician as it adds soooo much survivability...

The drop off in survivability between it and all the other sets is immediate and very noticable...

But to each his own...

Rianai · October 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

And whats your proof of that?

I've already done some math ...

41k dmg in a minute is absolutely nothing in a big fight with lots of aoe flying arround.

Waffennacht · October 2017

Rianai wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

And whats your proof of that?

I've already done some math ...

41k dmg in a minute is absolutely nothing in a big fight with lots of aoe flying arround.

Dude, he's looking at it like this:

I'm not getting hit: therefore Riposte has no use, combat physician works while not being hit therefore physician is superior to Riposte.

Coming from the premise that he isn't getting hit is where you disagree.

Given the premise he set, no matter how often it does or does not happen, he is correct.

Now it's debatable how true the premise actually is

UppGRAYxDD · October 2017

Both sets are great imop...both can be used for many different builds. I recently combined Riposte with Durogs bane on my magplar and its a great group utility build. Ide probably lean towards wizards for dps and physician for a healer tho...

TheDoomsdayMonster · October 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

Rianai wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

And whats your proof of that?

I've already done some math ...

41k dmg in a minute is absolutely nothing in a big fight with lots of aoe flying arround.

Dude, he's looking at it like this:

I'm not getting hit: therefore Riposte has no use, combat physician works while not being hit therefore physician is superior to Riposte.

Coming from the premise that he isn't getting hit is where you disagree.

Given the premise he set, no matter how often it does or does not happen, he is correct.

Now it's debatable how true the premise actually is

Well said!

Lexxypwns · October 2017

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Wizards is just much more flexible and has a high uptime, I honestly don't see why anyone would trade it out for a few shields that'll get easily bursted when they can potentially have a 100 percent uptime with wizards.

The shield doesn't even prevent you from eating a massive crit and dying, since you can still register a crit and the overflow damage WILL crit the health pool, whereas the ~8-10% real mitigation most builds will see from riposte actually gives you MORE benefit the higher the incoming damage.

CP has a cap on effectiveness and its quite a bit too low to be viable in the same array of situations as riposte. In a very niche situation then CP is worth slotting but its not broad enough to justify losing the "aoe" maim.

Yeah I just feel like the set is too good in a multitude of scenarios and with multiple builds. You can go support, healer or dps with wizards, I for one wouldn't even consider CP as a healer.

You might not consider Combat Physician, but I have, and use it for all content; its much better than many of you believe...

Read the link in my signature; I do dps, support, and heal...and its all done with the Combat Physician gear set.

I easily put out 20k damage every 6 seconds by MYSELF on a target. GG your arguement and goodbye

If you are putting out 20k damage every 6 seconds, then Combat Physician is negating more damage than Riposte over that time span...

Combat Physician is thus superior when facing you than Riposte would be...

I knew you'd say that... so CP is better when you're 1v1 with a support build but as soon as another pugs or 1 damage builds attack you it's not /thread

TheDoomsdayMonster · October 2017

Rianai wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

And whats your proof of that?

I've already done some math ...

41k dmg in a minute is absolutely nothing in a big fight with lots of aoe flying arround.

But did you take into account that the only damage that matters (as pertains to Combat Physician vs Wizards Riposte) is the damage that is negated as a direct result of an attacker going after your healer until the attacker Critically Attacks him/her?

Did your calculations alert you to the fact that the attacker that was debuffed must now deal 270,000 damage in the next minute to equal the quantity of damage negation that Combat Physician provides in an equal time span?

Did your calculations reveal to you that not only must the debuffed attacker deal 270k damage in the next minute, but that the attacker must be re-debuffed by the Healer 3 additional times (which would only be done if the attacker is focusing almost solely on your healer) in that 1 minute span so that the benefit Riposte provides will be active for the full minute?

I am completely certain that your calculations didn't take all of the above into consideration...

And I'm also certain that you didn't factor in (as pertains to comparing Combat Physician to Wizards Riposte) that the wearer of Combat Physician is fully capable of providing benefit without sustaining a single point of damage...

The Wizards Riposte wearer doesn't have that option...

The Wizards Riposte wearer must take damage until they are critted and must continue to take damage (and more crits) for its benefit to continue...

Once again, that simple thought exercise reveals the truth; Combat Physician is a better support set as the risk/benefit ratio far exceeds the risk/benefit ratio possessed by the wearer of Wizards Riposte...

TheDoomsdayMonster · October 2017

Lexxypwns wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Wizards is just much more flexible and has a high uptime, I honestly don't see why anyone would trade it out for a few shields that'll get easily bursted when they can potentially have a 100 percent uptime with wizards.

The shield doesn't even prevent you from eating a massive crit and dying, since you can still register a crit and the overflow damage WILL crit the health pool, whereas the ~8-10% real mitigation most builds will see from riposte actually gives you MORE benefit the higher the incoming damage.

CP has a cap on effectiveness and its quite a bit too low to be viable in the same array of situations as riposte. In a very niche situation then CP is worth slotting but its not broad enough to justify losing the "aoe" maim.

Yeah I just feel like the set is too good in a multitude of scenarios and with multiple builds. You can go support, healer or dps with wizards, I for one wouldn't even consider CP as a healer.

You might not consider Combat Physician, but I have, and use it for all content; its much better than many of you believe...

Read the link in my signature; I do dps, support, and heal...and its all done with the Combat Physician gear set.

I easily put out 20k damage every 6 seconds by MYSELF on a target. GG your arguement and goodbye

If you are putting out 20k damage every 6 seconds, then Combat Physician is negating more damage than Riposte over that time span...

Combat Physician is thus superior when facing you than Riposte would be...

I knew you'd say that... so CP is better when you're 1v1 with a support build but as soon as another pugs or 1 damage builds attack you it's not /thread

Combat Physician is also better in group settings as it doesn't require you to be continuously focused fired upon to get its 5th piece benefit...

Taylor_MB · October 2017

This is just too painful to read.

TheDoomsdayMonster · October 2017

Taylor_MB wrote: »

This is just too painful to read.

By all means refute my argument then...

Lets debate; that's the purpose of this thread...

Lets talk about Wizards Riposte vs Combat Physician...

Taylor_MB · October 2017

Your math is flawed as buggery, mate.

Lets look at a very simple scenario; 4v4 over a 6 second period. How little damage does your group have to take in order for CP and WR to be equal?

Damage Reduction-
CP: 4.1k
WR: 4.1k

In order for WR to negate 4.1k your group needs to have taken:
4.1k / 0.15 = 27.333k over 6 seconds

Divide that over 4 people:
27.333k / 4 = 6.833k per person

Finally, how much damage per second is that per person?
6.833k / 6 = 1.138k

So in a very simple 4v4 situation, your opponents need to be doing ~1.1k dps each for CP and WR to negate equal amounts of damage. Even in a 1v1 your opponents dps needs to be less than 4.555k for CP to be better than WR.

Combat Physician is a piece of garbage, please delete your embarrassing thread.

Taylor_MB · October 2017

Follow up with an applied application.

4v4 scenario again, below is the damage your opponents are putting out (completely ignoring all ultimates, LA weaves and enchants):

Player 1 -
AoE DoT: Lightening Wall - 1k per second (4 targets)
DoT: Burning Embers - 1k per second (1 target)
AoE DoT: Burning Talons - 1k per second (4 targets)
AoE DoT: Inhale - 1k per second (4 targets)
Proc Set: Valkyn Skoria or Grothdarr - 1k per second (4 targets)
Spam: Flame Lash - 2k per second (1 target)

Player 2 -
AoE DoT: Blazing Spear - 1k per second (4 targets)
AoE DoT: Reflective Light - 1k per second (3 targets)
AoE Spam: Puncturing Sweeps - 1k per second

Player 3 -
DoT: Cripple - 1k per second (1 target)
AoE DoT: Refreshing Path - 1k per second (4 targets)
AoE Spam: Sap Essence - 1k per second (4 targets)
Proc Set: Valkyn Skoria or Grothdarr - 1k per second (4 targets)

Player 4 -
AoE DoT: Caltrops - 1k per second (4 targets)
AoE DoT: Arrow Barrage - 1k per second (4 targets)
AoE Spam: Steel Tornado - 1k per second (4 targets)

Total damage dealt over 1 second: 55k
Total damage dealt over 6 seconds: 330k

Damage negated by WR: 49.5k
Damage negated by CP: 4.1k

WR is 10 times better than CP.

Now I did make a lot of assumptions in these calculations (mainly the damage numbers and 100% WR uptime), so lets play around with some of those.

50% WR uptime
50% damage received

Total damage dealt over 1 second: 13.75k
Total damage dealt over 6 seconds: 82.5k

Damage negated by WR: ~12.4k
Damage negated by CP: 4.1k

WR is 3 times better than CP.

Again I will repeat, even in a 1v1 your opponent needs to be doing less than 4.555k dps for CP to negate more damage than WR.

I can't believe this all needed to be spelled out.

Taylor_MB · October 2017

Further, you are failing to grasp very basics concepts required to understand the massive difference between these two sets.
1) WR reduces damage from all players to all your team mates, whilst CP only reduces damage to 1 player for a very short period.
2) Even as a healer you can get an almost 100% uptime on WR, you will always be getting hit with stray AoE's from virtually every enemy player. (personally I wear this set on a magicka tank)
3) As the above calculations demonstrate even in a simple 4v4 your opponents need to be doing less than ~1.1k dps each in order for CP to outperform WR. Even if you want to reduce the WR uptime by 50% your opponents will need to be doing less than ~2.4k dps for CP to be better.

You are wrong, as literally every reply has tried to point out to you.

Berenhir · October 2017

Already the assumption that a healer has moments in PvP where he doesn't take damage is completely absurd. Usually healers will take double to ten times the damage a typical dps takes. Healers are constantly focused, cannot disengage and tend to stay longer in areas and moments of extreme damage then those they want to enable to pass these.

Edit: @Taylor_MB and all the others are obviously right, the math provided makes it even more obvious than it was in the first place...

Taylor_MB · October 2017

Finally (I promise) even as you stated in your OP (with incorrect values but it barely matters):

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

With Wizards Riposte, you'd have to sustain 54000 points of damage in that 15 second span just to equal the amount of damage that Combat Physician will negate in the same time span (54000 x .15 = 8100...so its not even truly equal)...

54,000 / 15 secs = 3,600 dps

You are assuming CP is better than WR because you believe you are taking less than 3.6k dps? Even in a 1v1 that is complete baloney. That is as good as CP can get, where as WR only gets better the more players are involved and more damage is dealt.