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Change Hireling 3/3 Perk
Cpt_Teemo
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Can we please for the love of bleep, change the 3/3 passive from every 12 hours to double yield every 24 hours alot of people can't be bothered to login 14 diff chars twice in a day.
Edited by Cpt_Teemo on September 26, 2017 3:18PM Change Hireling 3/3 Perk 185 votes
Yes
77%
143 votes
No
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Khenarthi✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoIf you can't be bothered, why should you reap the rewards...?
It does annoy me that there's no leeway, like with the horse timer (which is 20 hours, making it much easier never to miss a feeding even if I have to be flexible with the login times).PC-EU10 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesI would be down with that.
I basically only get 3-5 hours a night during evenings on a work week so until the weekend I gain nothing from that point spent.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."7 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesIf you can't be bothered, why should you reap the rewards...?
It does annoy me that there's no leeway, like with the horse timer (which is 20 hours, making it much easier never to miss a feeding even if I have to be flexible with the login times).
Some people barely have 2 hours to play a day, and a 24 hour cd would be much easier for them and it would be the exact same thing basically as it were now you just need to login every 24 hours instead.1 -
Eyesinthedrk✭✭✭✭✭"Meh" it's not a bad idea. But on the prioritized list of pressing issues that need attention, this ones sitting somewhere around #1273 -
newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Hmm I say change it to give a small chance to drop motifsTenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
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House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis6 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesThey really should just stack in the mail while offline and or stack and delete after 24hrs if unclaimed. That way you will always get the reward for the perk, because, for people with full time jobs, it is a waste of a skill point. If you have to log in and off at the same time every evening, you will never get the double reward.8 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesThey really should just stack in the mail while offline and or stack and delete after 24hrs if unclaimed. That way you will always get the reward for the perk, because, for people with full time jobs, it is a waste of a skill point. If you have to log in and off at the same time every evening, you will never get the double reward.
Maybe make it 3 day timer like a CoD or something, and if you don't claim them in that time then it gets wiped I could see that as another possibility.3 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesWhat I want is to have Double Rewards (2 email equivalents) every 20 hours.
Back when we had to subscribe, it made sense on a certain manipulate the customer level. Now, with the game having an optional sub, there is no incentive, either psychological or financial for ZOS to continue this practice.
BTW, we have been asking for this since Beta.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoJust make it 10/20 hours instead of 12/24.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
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- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
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- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
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Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesJust make it 10/20 hours instead of 12/24.
Even then it doesn't really matter cause people get annoyed with having to login twice on each of there characters especially all 14 daily, I would rather just have the mails be automatic and last 3 days then to login in constantly on the alts.1 -
Glockcoma725✭✭✭Just wish we could have infinite letters. I love reading what my hirelings are up toPC-NA CP570 @Glockcoma725
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code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Collectibles Tracker ― RaidificatorPC/Console Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Group Buff PanelsOther Add-Ons: Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information0 -
rootimus✭✭✭✭✭I've never understood why we don't have these delivered every 12 (or 24) hours into a proper in-game mail client, regardless of whether or not we log in.Even on the internet, clear communication is important; it can be the difference between "helping your Uncle Jack off a horse" and "helping your uncle jack off a horse"; the difference between "knowing your s***" and "knowing you're s***".
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Runs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesI'm down with free stuff.
Honestly though I would rather the mails come even if you don't log in, with a limit of 2 days maybe.Runs| Orc Nightblade • Chim-el Adabal| Dunmer Templar • M'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
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Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You think hireling rewards are worth it?
First they changed it so legendary mats are provided only very rarely. Then recently they changed intricate to return 3-6 primary mats on deconstruct. To my mind, you can greatly exceed the value of logging in and out by simply farming drops for an equal amount of time. Especially considering how much ancestor silk sells for.0 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesWreuntzylla wrote: »You think hireling rewards are worth it?
First they changed it so legendary mats are provided only very rarely. Then recently they changed intricate to return 3-6 primary mats on deconstruct. To my mind, you can greatly exceed the value of logging in and out by simply farming drops for an equal amount of time. Especially considering how much ancestor silk sells for.
Yeah that is true, but its very time consuming to keep relogging twice a day and at times you literally have to document for each character which is insane tbh, so yeah I would rather have it automated or a 20-24h cd with double mats as if it were right now just in one mail not 2.0 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes
To expand on this, what is the point of the logging on to each character requirement anyways? I have to log in to a character for 2 minutes to read some mail and then log off. Very pointless. The mail should just be account wide for every mail. Especially now that AP is a bankable commodity and, in regards to the hireling mail, the craft bag exists to universally store crafting mats. If I receive rewards for the worthy or an end of campaign reward or hireling mail, I should just be able to receive that mail on any character I am currently on. It's not like somehow a particular character is better at receiving mail than another. It also doesn't add any game-play advantage by making all mail universal, it really just makes it more convenient, eliminates a pointless time waste and actually gives you more time to enjoy the content.2 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesI don't think the process should be at all automated. You want the mails, log in. Just, only have to log once a day for that.Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"6 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesI don't think the process should be at all automated. You want the mails, log in. Just, only have to log once a day for that.
Yeah, that would be best imo every 20-24 hours just have to login once on that character to receive twice as many materials as we would have now, it will basically be the same thing just 2 put into 1.0 -
Korah_Eaglecry✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭YesIf you can't be bothered, why should you reap the rewards...?
It does annoy me that there's no leeway, like with the horse timer (which is 20 hours, making it much easier never to miss a feeding even if I have to be flexible with the login times).
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Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesKorah_Eaglecry wrote: »If you can't be bothered, why should you reap the rewards...?
It does annoy me that there's no leeway, like with the horse timer (which is 20 hours, making it much easier never to miss a feeding even if I have to be flexible with the login times).
I swear some people just love to argue.
Imo, that double login reward system should really just apply to those korean mmo's since they run them way differently than all the other mmo's i've played. Look at some of the free games you just have to login once a day to receive the award for that account doesn't matter which character you login on, but then you have BDO for example having to either login every 3 hours or stay online 24/7 just to get all the rewards for the day.0 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesI don't think the process should be at all automated. You want the mails, log in. Just, only have to log once a day for that.
But what is the point? It isn't like the crafting writs or dailies where you actually have to perform a meaningful action on the character to gain a reward. All you need to do is log in, check the mail, log off. It is pointless and unnecessary.1 -
Eddyble✭✭✭✭YesAs others have said, standardize the hireling timer to be the same as the horse training timer and just give us 1 mail with the combined mats per skill type.Eddyb1e - Xbox One - NA
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LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoVoted for "no" but actually I dont really care.
3 points passive works fine for me because I cant log in on cooldown, and with this passive I get the mails every time I log in.Edited by LadyNalcarya on September 26, 2017 4:02PMDro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭YesLadyNalcarya wrote: »Voted for "no" but actually I dont really care.
3 points passive works fine for me because I cant log in on cooldown, and with this passive I get the mails every time I log in.
True, but you would have double the income if you logged in twice a day which really is an annoyance.2 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesIf you can't be bothered, why should you reap the rewards...?
It does annoy me that there's no leeway, like with the horse timer (which is 20 hours, making it much easier never to miss a feeding even if I have to be flexible with the login times).
Its not even about being bothered, it is about what is practical. If you work a normal 9-5 job, this just doesnt work. Lets say I leave the house at 7:30 AM so at 7, I quickly log into all my toons. That means that at 7PM I must do the same thing. Lets say I am in a dungeon that goes to 7:15 and then I start, well, now I cant do it the next day or I am late for work because I cant start the process again until 7:15 the next morning.
The harsh truth is the hirelings got nerfed to oblivion like 2 years ago anyway. They used to be pretty rewarding, now its hardly worth your time. And this is coming from someone that does master writs on 8-12 characters a day.3 -
SammyFable✭✭✭✭Why do we even have to log in precisely after 12h to get the max amount of mails? Why can't they just accumulate over time? So if you don't log in for a week, you'll be greated by 14 mails from a single hireling.9
