RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »Soul Assault is fine as is
Look at Dawnbreaker, it has no counter play. It's an
AOE cone
Undodgable
AOE CC
High damage
High damage DOT
Animation Cancel nuke
You can't even see the animation at all most of the time because it's clipped and it dies more damage then a single target channel that will get you killed if you time it wrong and you want to nerf Soul Assault?
Wow...one of the few skills strong against dodge doling stam builds...everyone in the game is tanky now and will be even more tanky next patch..the last thing we need is another damage nerf to an ultimate. Dawnbreaker is the stam version of SS and is better in every way. Yet it's ok? If SS is OP Dawnbreaker is flat out broken!
leepalmer95 wrote: »
RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »Soul Assault is fine as is
Look at Dawnbreaker, it has no counter play. It's an
AOE cone
Undodgable
AOE CC
High damage
High damage DOT
Animation Cancel nuke
You can't even see the animation at all most of the time because it's clipped and it dies more damage then a single target channel that will get you killed if you time it wrong and you want to nerf Soul Assault?
Wow...one of the few skills strong against dodge doling stam builds...everyone in the game is tanky now and will be even more tanky next patch..the last thing we need is another damage nerf to an ultimate. Dawnbreaker is the stam version of SS and is better in every way. Yet it's ok? If SS is OP Dawnbreaker is flat out broken!
RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »Soul Assault is fine as is
Look at Dawnbreaker, it has no counter play. It's an
AOE cone
Undodgable
AOE CC
High damage
High damage DOT
Animation Cancel nuke
You can't even see the animation at all most of the time because it's clipped and it dies more damage then a single target channel that will get you killed if you time it wrong and you want to nerf Soul Assault?
Wow...one of the few skills strong against dodge doling stam builds...everyone in the game is tanky now and will be even more tanky next patch..the last thing we need is another damage nerf to an ultimate. Dawnbreaker is the stam version of SS and is better in every way. Yet it's ok? If SS is OP Dawnbreaker is flat out broken!
Vercingetorix wrote: »How can Soul Assault possibly over-perform if it hasn't even been touched in YEARS? Perhaps many new players are using it and you simply forgot how to hold block or break LoS.....
If I was a new player who just finished the main questline and got a shiny new Ultimate, I'd try it out too - especially when I find myself fighting brain-dead players that fail to hold block or stand at keep doors for an oil bath.
It seems the only thing that's in need of a nerf here is the amount of poor PvP players complaining that they can't face-roll every fight, instead looking for handouts to compensate for their poor skill. I got news for ya: Even if Soul Assault is nerfed, you will continue to lose fights in Cyrodiil to something else.
Vercingetorix wrote: »How can Soul Assault possibly over-perform if it hasn't even been touched in YEARS? Perhaps many new players are using it and you simply forgot how to hold block or break LoS.....
If I was a new player who just finished the main questline and got a shiny new Ultimate, I'd try it out too - especially when I find myself fighting brain-dead players that fail to hold block or stand at keep doors for an oil bath.
It seems the only thing that's in need of a nerf here is the amount of poor PvP players complaining that they can't face-roll every fight, instead looking for handouts to compensate for their poor skill. I got news for ya: Even if Soul Assault is nerfed, you will continue to lose fights in Cyrodiil to something else.
Last time I checked, the time from now to september 2016 is less than YEARS
Dont you just like it when people without any clue or facts are chipping in their opinions.
Vercingetorix wrote: »How can Soul Assault possibly over-perform if it hasn't even been touched in YEARS? Perhaps many new players are using it and you simply forgot how to hold block or break LoS.....
If I was a new player who just finished the main questline and got a shiny new Ultimate, I'd try it out too - especially when I find myself fighting brain-dead players that fail to hold block or stand at keep doors for an oil bath.
It seems the only thing that's in need of a nerf here is the amount of poor PvP players complaining that they can't face-roll every fight, instead looking for handouts to compensate for their poor skill. I got news for ya: Even if Soul Assault is nerfed, you will continue to lose fights in Cyrodiil to something else.
Last time I checked, the time from now to september 2016 is less than YEARS
Dont you just like it when people without any clue or facts are chipping in their opinions.
Ok, so we all want old SA, right?
I mean, unblockable but interruptable
Vercingetorix wrote: »How can Soul Assault possibly over-perform if it hasn't even been touched in YEARS? Perhaps many new players are using it and you simply forgot how to hold block or break LoS.....
If I was a new player who just finished the main questline and got a shiny new Ultimate, I'd try it out too - especially when I find myself fighting brain-dead players that fail to hold block or stand at keep doors for an oil bath.
It seems the only thing that's in need of a nerf here is the amount of poor PvP players complaining that they can't face-roll every fight, instead looking for handouts to compensate for their poor skill. I got news for ya: Even if Soul Assault is nerfed, you will continue to lose fights in Cyrodiil to something else.
Last time I checked, the time from now to september 2016 is less than YEARS
Dont you just like it when people without any clue or facts are chipping in their opinions.
Ok, so we all want old SA, right?
I mean, unblockable but interruptable
No. Unblockable is stupid. Unless you mean undodgeable (i noticed many people are mistaking these two). The thing is One Tamriel changes removed all counters to this ability (or made them difficult) except blocking and Morrowind changes made the punishment for blocking twice as hard.
It should stay undodgable, it probably should keep its damage but blocking should not be so punishing and some other counters should be more viable (like LoS => less snare or interrupt)
Vercingetorix wrote: »Vercingetorix wrote: »How can Soul Assault possibly over-perform if it hasn't even been touched in YEARS? Perhaps many new players are using it and you simply forgot how to hold block or break LoS.....
If I was a new player who just finished the main questline and got a shiny new Ultimate, I'd try it out too - especially when I find myself fighting brain-dead players that fail to hold block or stand at keep doors for an oil bath.
It seems the only thing that's in need of a nerf here is the amount of poor PvP players complaining that they can't face-roll every fight, instead looking for handouts to compensate for their poor skill. I got news for ya: Even if Soul Assault is nerfed, you will continue to lose fights in Cyrodiil to something else.
Last time I checked, the time from now to september 2016 is less than YEARS
Dont you just like it when people without any clue or facts are chipping in their opinions.
Ok, so we all want old SA, right?
I mean, unblockable but interruptable
No. Unblockable is stupid. Unless you mean undodgeable (i noticed many people are mistaking these two). The thing is One Tamriel changes removed all counters to this ability (or made them difficult) except blocking and Morrowind changes made the punishment for blocking twice as hard.
It should stay undodgable, it probably should keep its damage but blocking should not be so punishing and some other counters should be more viable (like LoS => less snare or interrupt)
Sounds like you should adapt to your environment and invest in Shadow Ward, Sturdy, and Block glyphs instead of whining like a spoiled brat, demanding the game conform to your lack of skill. Learn from your mistakes and improve - or don't and uninstall.
I only wonder why the caster is immune to stuns and interrupts when channeling soul assault... That seems like the most logical counter play to it. Just like templar beam.
I only wonder why the caster is immune to stuns and interrupts when channeling soul assault... That seems like the most logical counter play to it. Just like templar beam.
Yeah that's how it used to be. before the buff if someone had the cheek to start the channel right in your face you could just bash it and they would have wasted their ultimate. Crushing Shock and Venom Arrow also worked.
PeaNutShotz wrote: »As a magblade that uses this skill to kill dodge rollers, I love it especially having a TP of 103k. Now if you guys want it nerfed that's fine by me, so let's nerf birds, the healing ulti for wardens and the one that snares you.
I seem to not have an issue when someone SA's me and I'm in all light. So someone that's in all medium is QQ'ing all I have to say I pucker up buttercup.
PeaNutShotz wrote: »As a magblade that uses this skill to kill dodge rollers, I love it especially having a TP of 103k. Now if you guys want it nerfed that's fine by me, so let's nerf birds, the healing ulti for wardens and the one that snares you.
I seem to not have an issue when someone SA's me and I'm in all light. So someone that's in all medium is QQ'ing all I have to say I pucker up buttercup.
ForsakenSin wrote: »this is what gets me mad..
People getting killed by ability and calling it nerf when they DONT EVEN USE IT or know anything about it
ForsakenSin wrote: »Here is WHY IF you used Soul Assault you would know that is not the best ult and here is why
1) TO kill anybody and i mean ANYBODY their health mush be lower then 40% anything higher then that and your wasted it and also pray they don't out heal them self's
ForsakenSin wrote: »2) Pray they don't go around the tree rock ect as it brakes the link asap
ForsakenSin wrote: »3) Pray that within those 5 sec or so you don't die as you can't do anything
ForsakenSin wrote: »4) Pray that it hits the right person and not a NPC or the Dwemer spawn.
ForsakenSin wrote: »So please until you are actually using the damm skill stop saying b$%it you dont know just because you died when you were below the 40% of health by the soul assault dose not mean you can start bit$%ing about it to get it nerferd
And yes on my magica 50k mana i usually use it and i have never NEVER EVER killed anybody with health more then 40/50% if you die from it at full health .. i don't know what to say to you.
ForsakenSin wrote: »and guess what if it dose gets nerferd guess what i will use ? that's right the destro ulti have fun with that
So many magica classes terrified of losing their I win button. This skill is now widely accepted in PvP as being grossly over powered. Why are the forums so slow to catch up?