Rohamad_Ali wrote: »
theamazingx wrote: »Wreuntzylla wrote: »
And here we go again.
To make a long story short, almost everyone that followed your path disappeared after the cheat engine bans and didn't reappear until the bans were lifted. It amounts to propaganda, makes no sense as an argument and in any case has been debunked multiple times on this forum.
Instead of starting the cycle, let me just describe to you how the whole cycle goes.
Player A: "Hey everyone, did you hear that Player Z is using a macro to perform better?"
Player B: "Yeah, I hear he can defeat the cooldown."
Players C, D, E and F to Player A: "Impossible, you moron! You can't macro in this game. Even if you could, skillful play performs better."
Players C, D, E and F to Player B: [similar post]
Player A: "Huh? Who ever argues something is impossible? And how would you know? Did you try it?"
Player C and D : "Um, absolutely not, at least one person from ZoS said that is against ToS and can lead to a ban. Uh, I heard it from someone else." [E disappears from the thread.]
Player A: "What? Who told you that?"
Player C and D : "I can't tell you. It's a friend and I don't want to get them in trouble."
Player A: "Let me get this straight. You argued that something is impossible and called me a moron because you heard from someone you can't identify that it was impossible and did the same in response to others. I mean, YOU haven't even tried it. Why would you care so much?"
Player C: "Um, because, giving bad information, it's... um bad?" [player D disappears from the thread].
Player A: "What exactly did your friend say? It wasn't possible using Razer or Logitech? Or wasn't possible scripting lua directly? How many platforms did he try? And why would something you can do yourself not work just as well with a macro? Like if someone recorded their own play and then used it instead. I mean, both are just signals from a computer, right? How about Player X who said he can make macros using cheat engine that let you do all sorts of crazy things, even fly?"
Player C: "I'm done with this thread, if you can't accept the truth what's the point!"
All it takes to show that macros won't "beat" the gcd is to be able to outpace the gcd manually, which isn't that hard. Blockcancel and then start spamming a skill or light attack, it won't come out immediately. You could still try using macros to maximize the animation cancelling people can already do manually, but that will often fail in a live environment where even an ounce of lag exists. In the event that they don't fail, their ability to supercede a player's ability will be minute at best.
BlitzWing97 wrote: »what does proc stand for?
Is it the armour/weapon set abilities?
BlitzWing97 wrote: »Try this one....Just happened to me
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Kpc4phkAW9VVh6YVp6NUlZRlE/view?usp=sharing
BlitzWing97 wrote: »Heated night, Blue and Yellow really pushing back Red for the first time in the month campaign..But i keep coming accross a problem that other players are dealing more damage to myself than i can heal or deal back.
How is any of this possible? 5 separate skills all in under a second!
Have they disabled animations? Is it an exploit? Please someone help because this is just frustrating...
Screenshot of what im on about:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Kpc4phkAW9dWhfa2tpM3NZalU/view?usp=sharing
They cheat most of them, some are deliberately triggering the so called "Macro Slice", w/wo an application in the background doing it for them.
f047ys3v3n wrote: »They cheat most of them, some are deliberately triggering the so called "Macro Slice", w/wo an application in the background doing it for them.
This, search it you youtube. Most of the streamers do it and often explain bits and pieces of how it is done.
It seems to be basically a visual bug. The abilities they used took the correct amount of time to cast but you didn't get to see them go off one by one. Rather, you see them all happen at once and therefore can't react. Not sure what to tell you. ESO combat is pretty broke in quite a lot of ways.
BlitzWing97 wrote: »Heated night, Blue and Yellow really pushing back Red for the first time in the month campaign..But i keep coming accross a problem that other players are dealing more damage to myself than i can heal or deal back.
How is any of this possible? 5 separate skills all in under a second!
Have they disabled animations? Is it an exploit? Please someone help because this is just frustrating...
Screenshot of what im on about:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Kpc4phkAW9dWhfa2tpM3NZalU/view?usp=sharing
Maybe the word "robot" in the opposing player's name offers a clue. The next time that you encounter them, take a screenshot and use < F1 > to report the player.BlitzWing97 wrote: ».... 5 separate skills all in under a second!
Have they disabled animations? Is it an exploit? Please someone help because this is just frustrating...
Screenshot of what im on about:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Kpc4phkAW9dWhfa2tpM3NZalU/view?usp=sharing
"Proc" is just a lazy abbreviation for "process" or "procedure", and "proc" can be used as a verb as well as a noun. That is, when a proc occurs, we say that it "procs" or "proc'ed". Many armour sets have a proc as the 5-piece benefit. "Monster" sets are two-piece, and equipping a second piece of the pair introduces a proc. There are Skill line abilities, usually of their morphs, which also have procs.BlitzWing97 wrote: »what does proc stand for?
Is it the armour/weapon set abilities?
For what it is worth, from what I've read, the Global Cooldown is one second. Nonetheless, if the GCD is 0.7 seconds, then it would require at least 1.4 seconds to press three keys, with the GCD following the first and the second. So, not only can you press three keys in a bit more than 1.4 seconds, your connection to the "megaserver" is so fast and reliable that the host software will actually process each one and return the result to your gaming rig -- which would require less than ~ 40 ms. for network latency and a FPS of at least 60. Do you have any idea how much a Tier 3 connection costs? (Obviously, the player's computer is not one that just meets the minimum system requirements for TESO).Pepper8Jack wrote: »The global cooldown for skills is around 0.7 seconds, so its entirely possible to get ambush, light attack, and surprise attack in under a second.
The "macro slice" can also be accidentally triggered through lag.
People need to not be so quick to assume that the people killing them are doing so by cheating.
Hmmm.... I've thought about running AutoKey to macro the digit < 1 > and < 3 > keys on the compact keyboard that I'm using. However, I doubt that the game client will recognize the key-press. At least it probably won't unless the NumLock key is set, which switches the < Ins > < Home > < PgUp > < Del > < End > < PgDn > and Arrow keys to their respective digits instead. Using a regular PC/AT keyboard with those keys separate from the number keypad would be clumsy on the desk that I'm using, though. Maybe one with a USB port for the mouse would fit spatially. ....timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO wrote: »BlitzWing97 wrote: ».... 5 separate skills all in under a second!
Have they disabled animations? Is it an exploit? Please someone help because this is just frustrating. ....
Its called Autohotkey'ing
Shadowshire wrote: »"Proc" is just a lazy abbreviation for "process" or "procedure", and "proc" can be used as a verb as well as a noun. That is, when a proc occurs, we say that it "procs" or "proc'ed". Many armour sets have a proc as the 5-piece benefit. "Monster" sets are two-piece, and equipping a second piece of the pair introduces a proc. There are Skill line abilities, usually of their morphs, which also have procs.BlitzWing97 wrote: »what does proc stand for?
Is it the armour/weapon set abilities?
Armor and weapon procs are the #1 reason that I don't engage in PvP, and having neither a fast and reliable Internet broadband connection nor a computer that meets at least the "recommended" system requirements are two more.
Shadowshire wrote: »BlitzWing97 wrote: ».... 5 separate skills all in under a second!
Have they disabled animations? Is it an exploit? Please someone help because this is just frustrating...
Screenshot of what im on about:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Kpc4phkAW9dWhfa2tpM3NZalU/view?usp=sharing
Allegedly, there is such a thing as "animation canceling" but I have not read any instructions as to how to do that. Supposedly, cancelling its animation doesn't stop an ability from being effected, but it does allow the player to use another ability immediately after the animation is cancelled. I don't know whether cancelling animation adversely affects abilities which have a Cast Time or Channel Time.
BlitzWing97 wrote: »Thank you all for your help. Its actually been very insightful!
i raise my hands and accept the screenshots i presented show 2 tone abilities plus extra effects. My own lack of knowledge there.
But these aren't the only instances so macro slice and in-game bug exploits are wonderful to hear about aha
Cheers guys
Also, just sayin, dont trust the timestamps of addons etc. Lagg and all that...
I get called a cheater everyday, multiple times a day. I dont even know where to begin if I even wanted to cheat.
When I was still doing large group pvp with a guild every pvp night you hear in ts "wtf i got hit by 5 abilities in a second i got macroed" I would love to actually get a list of the abilities used in those instances....Some could be a delayed damage like backlash, or a proc set that can go off just by an attack. Or u ani cancelled an ultimate like dawnbreaker or incap, and striagh into an execute.