(NA) Real and fake 1vXer's and small man's

FENGRUSH · May 2017

Darnathian wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Mustard wrote: »

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

I would quickly like to explain the main differences between Real and fake 1vXer's and small man's.

Fake 1vXer
plays solo but they mainly fight near friendly zergs
. Looks no different from other players that are in the zerg
Always faction zerging, using single target ults on players already getting zerged to get the KB
Never places siege, waits for others to siege. often stays in stealth in a live siege line
often have high burst/ high damage builds, doesnt not need much sustain because of the zerg safety net.
always has Pug support.
also cares about AP, but will complain if the map is an off faction color or lack of an organized siege offensive.
will log on another factions if their is not a zerg to sustain them.
Makes fun of others for Zerging.
Never places camps.
Often uses cookie cutter youtube builds

Real 1VXer
Mostly fights by themselves in open fields or near resources
Rarely if ever, do they faction Zerg.
Have strong solo builds
often fights outnumbered
generally cares about good fights and AP hunts
only place down siege when they have to.
often uses meta builds or creates new meta builds.

Fake small man
plays with 4-8 others but only really plays in faction zergs.
cant really tell them apart from the Zerg unless you know them.
Does not siege and cannot take a keep by themselves, waits for others to siege.
Zergs with other small mans.
Will zerg guilds with faction and claim credit for wiping them
will run Healing springs for getting ap when healing the zergs
Mostly fake 1vXers.
will never admit to zerging.

Real Small man
Sieges and takes objectives
Runs good group builds, uses snares, AOE's, Debuffs, ulti dumps,etc and can kill larger groups if done right.
self sufficient and can survive, does not need a zerg to get ap.
runs no more than 4-6 people.
Only really zergs when taking important keeps or defending
usually are followed by lots of pugs when near friendly keeps. they often dont like when this happens.
Enjoys being outnumbered.
often uses meta builds or creates new meta builds.

Please tell me if you feel this is an accurate rep. of cyrodiil groups and player behavior. thank you!

Sorry but what a joke. I don't think a single player in this game can say they have not stood next to a zerg from time to time. Look at players like Enzo, Miat, Fengrush, and many others that basically zerg surf all day long.

Im pretty much always in a small group on azuras. The people that die like to write it off to the fact that FENGRUSH was zerg surfing. Reality is were just smashing groups, whether were alone on front lines, deep in territory, or defending at a keep.

Your smashing pugs that are all sub 600 cp and poorly geared. Grats. You are awesome.

That's 90% of the battle. No different when I visit trueflame.

Vizier · May 2017

Real and Fake Trolls? Did I read that right?

Azurethe · May 2017

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Prince_of_all_Pugs · May 2017

PRIME EXAMPLE OF REAL SMALL MAN GROUP PLAY! without cp!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIFNP2X6_Gs

Cathexis · May 2017

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

PRIME EXAMPLE OF REAL SMALL MAN GROUP PLAY! without cp!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIFNP2X6_Gs

I'm glad you cleared that up I thought it was just fake 1vX

Malamar1229 · May 2017

@OP What about the 1vXer's using crutch addons, cheats, exploits, and even CE

Magus · May 2017

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

PRIME EXAMPLE OF REAL SMALL MAN GROUP PLAY! without cp!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIFNP2X6_Gs

Got it so, small man is using siege (broken on azuras) against unorganized people not working together at all or running any support abilities until I eventually get overrun. Then I should curse out organized groups that come through and coordinate ultimates and use support abilities and call them zerglings even though my small man coordinates their ults. I'm only teasing, looked like a fun AP farm while it lasted.

apostate9 · May 2017

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

PRIME EXAMPLE OF REAL SMALL MAN GROUP PLAY! without cp!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIFNP2X6_Gs

I watched the video, but none of the men in it were particularly small.

Fake.

apostate9 · May 2017

Magus wrote: »

Prince_of_all_Pugs wrote: »

PRIME EXAMPLE OF REAL SMALL MAN GROUP PLAY! without cp!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIFNP2X6_Gs

Got it so, small man is using siege (broken on azuras) against unorganized people not working together at all or running any support abilities until I eventually get overrun. Then I should curse out organized groups that come through and coordinate ultimates and use support abilities and call them zerglings even though my small man coordinates their ults. I'm only teasing, looked like a fun AP farm while it lasted.

Yes. In fact, the smaller your group, the larger your reproductive organs will become. See, bad is actually good, and good is bad. I know that's confusing, but you'll get the hang of it!

First: just form a group with about -4 (Negative four) members. This may seem mathematically impossible, but not for a real SMALL Small-man group! No Sir. Math is for zerglings, just think SMALL!

Then, go to a no-CP campaign which imparts a further aura of *awesome* to all who play there, and spam siege on organized zergs (groups with a positive number of members). If you should somehow fail to be victorious against these teamspeak-using, attack coordinating newbs, find some even newer newbs to farm. With a bit of luck, you will find a zerg that doesn't cheat by using voice comms and group synergies, who might be more amenable to posing for you while you kill them on Twitch. If that doesn't work, just rage for a bit, and assign blame to those who beat you! Maybe, challenge their GM to a duel via hate tells, or trash talk the offenders in zone chat. That will dull the pain a bit, while you get the hang of being deliberately outnumbered. It can be frustrating, but always remember: getting yourself into a situation where you will get singled out and dog-piled by enemies on purpose actually makes you a PVP EXPERT! So don't lose heart...

Once you master these basics, you'll be a real live 1vXer in no time! Soon you'll be cherry picking victories from your raw footage of failure, so you can post the edited highlight reels on YouTube!

Just remember the toxic signs of a fake 1vXer-zergling-sucktard:

* Trying help your faction
* Using ultimates
* Playing the map
* Accepting pugs (ewww!)

Avoid these symptoms of zergitude, and you'll be ELITE!

caeliusstarbreaker · May 2017

I just play the game in varying group sizes with my friends to have fun and if something reasonably cool happens I press record and put a song behind it.

Magus · May 2017

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

I just play the game in varying group sizes with my friends to have fun and if something reasonably cool happens I press record and put a song behind it.

Some OP covers in your latest video and some great PVP.

caeliusstarbreaker · May 2017

Magus wrote: »

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

I just play the game in varying group sizes with my friends to have fun and if something reasonably cool happens I press record and put a song behind it.

Some OP covers in your latest video and some great PVP.

Thanks man!

Minalan · May 2017

So, you're a 'fake' 1vXer if you help a group of newbies who call for help to kill some toxic jackass farming potatoes at a resource, who then proceeds to send you multiple hate tells?

Just checking...

Get a life, it's just a fun video game.

DisgracefulMind · May 2017

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

I just play the game in varying group sizes with my friends to have fun and if something reasonably cool happens I press record and put a song behind it.

Besides recording often, this is mostly what I do. My favorite is duoing, but, honestly, when people whisper me wanting to hang out, I can't say no. So I end up in a 4-8 man group more often than not. Bigger groups on my guild's raid nights, but other than that I just like to wander to Nikel/Roe and potato around. I like my friends and enjoy their company; therefore, I've never thought anything bad with playing with friends.

Sometimes zerg surfing is fun, sometimes getting zerged down all the way across the map is fun, sometimes oiling pugs on breaches is fun, sometimes larger groups are fun. Every group size has the potential to be fun. I have my preferences, but I don't see the need to stick labels on playstyles o:

pcar944 · May 2017

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

I just play the game in varying group sizes with my friends to have fun and if something reasonably cool happens I press record and put a song behind it.

Besides recording often, this is mostly what I do. My favorite is duoing, but, honestly, when people whisper me wanting to hang out, I can't say no. So I end up in a 4-8 man group more often than not. Bigger groups on my guild's raid nights, but other than that I just like to wander to Nikel/Roe and potato around. I like my friends and enjoy their company; therefore, I've never thought anything bad with playing with friends.

Sometimes zerg surfing is fun, sometimes getting zerged down all the way across the map is fun, sometimes oiling pugs on breaches is fun, sometimes larger groups are fun. Every group size has the potential to be fun. I have my preferences, but I don't see the need to stick labels on playstyles o:

lol exactly

my favorite is people in zone chat of all 3 alliances always arguing and yelling at people who enjoy playing solo as well calling them useless ... yet I would constantly get whispers asking for a camp etc ... *sigh*

caeliusstarbreaker · May 2017

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

I just play the game in varying group sizes with my friends to have fun and if something reasonably cool happens I press record and put a song behind it.

Besides recording often, this is mostly what I do. My favorite is duoing, but, honestly, when people whisper me wanting to hang out, I can't say no. So I end up in a 4-8 man group more often than not. Bigger groups on my guild's raid nights, but other than that I just like to wander to Nikel/Roe and potato around. I like my friends and enjoy their company; therefore, I've never thought anything bad with playing with friends.

Sometimes zerg surfing is fun, sometimes getting zerged down all the way across the map is fun, sometimes oiling pugs on breaches is fun, sometimes larger groups are fun. Every group size has the potential to be fun. I have my preferences, but I don't see the need to stick labels on playstyles o:

Sure, do I usually prefer to fight in smaller precision based groups, yes. However, if it wasn't for the friends I have made in this game, I likely wouldn't be playing it any more with its laundry list of "problems." I don't let some arbitrary number come between that, it just means that we have to aim for bigger and bigger game. Hell, I even enjoyed when members of Khole and VE joined together about a week or two ago to form a voltron group of 18 I think our max number was, give or take an afk or added group member. And we went forth and fought factions. I don't claim to be anything other than a stamplar who pvp's. Still don't really understand the necessary means for distinction between the categories. I've seen "smallscalers" do horrible in larger groups vs other normally "zergers" and I've seen "zergers" do horrible in "smallscale." As far as being a better player, you're doing yourself a disservice by exclusively participating one facet of pvp. Everything else is just having fun with your friends.

DisgracefulMind · May 2017

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

I just play the game in varying group sizes with my friends to have fun and if something reasonably cool happens I press record and put a song behind it.

Besides recording often, this is mostly what I do. My favorite is duoing, but, honestly, when people whisper me wanting to hang out, I can't say no. So I end up in a 4-8 man group more often than not. Bigger groups on my guild's raid nights, but other than that I just like to wander to Nikel/Roe and potato around. I like my friends and enjoy their company; therefore, I've never thought anything bad with playing with friends.

Sometimes zerg surfing is fun, sometimes getting zerged down all the way across the map is fun, sometimes oiling pugs on breaches is fun, sometimes larger groups are fun. Every group size has the potential to be fun. I have my preferences, but I don't see the need to stick labels on playstyles o:

Sure, do I usually prefer to fight in smaller precision based groups, yes. However, if it wasn't for the friends I have made in this game, I likely wouldn't be playing it any more with its laundry list of "problems." I don't let some arbitrary number come between that, it just means that we have to aim for bigger and bigger game. Hell, I even enjoyed when members of Khole and VE joined together about a week or two ago to form a voltron group of 18 I think our max number was, give or take an afk or added group member. And we went forth and fought factions. I don't claim to be anything other than a stamplar who pvp's. Still don't really understand the necessary means for distinction between the categories. I've seen "smallscalers" do horrible in larger groups vs other normally "zergers" and I've seen "zergers" do horrible in "smallscale." As far as being a better player, you're doing yourself a disservice by exclusively participating one facet of pvp. Everything else is just having fun with your friends.

Yes, so this on so many levels. I wouldn't be here if there wasn't people I absolutely adored here. I just play to enjoy my time with them (:

Besides, I've felt I've become a more rounded player participating in all aspects of ESO. Even PvE. o:

caeliusstarbreaker · May 2017

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

I just play the game in varying group sizes with my friends to have fun and if something reasonably cool happens I press record and put a song behind it.

Besides recording often, this is mostly what I do. My favorite is duoing, but, honestly, when people whisper me wanting to hang out, I can't say no. So I end up in a 4-8 man group more often than not. Bigger groups on my guild's raid nights, but other than that I just like to wander to Nikel/Roe and potato around. I like my friends and enjoy their company; therefore, I've never thought anything bad with playing with friends.

Sometimes zerg surfing is fun, sometimes getting zerged down all the way across the map is fun, sometimes oiling pugs on breaches is fun, sometimes larger groups are fun. Every group size has the potential to be fun. I have my preferences, but I don't see the need to stick labels on playstyles o:

Sure, do I usually prefer to fight in smaller precision based groups, yes. However, if it wasn't for the friends I have made in this game, I likely wouldn't be playing it any more with its laundry list of "problems." I don't let some arbitrary number come between that, it just means that we have to aim for bigger and bigger game. Hell, I even enjoyed when members of Khole and VE joined together about a week or two ago to form a voltron group of 18 I think our max number was, give or take an afk or added group member. And we went forth and fought factions. I don't claim to be anything other than a stamplar who pvp's. Still don't really understand the necessary means for distinction between the categories. I've seen "smallscalers" do horrible in larger groups vs other normally "zergers" and I've seen "zergers" do horrible in "smallscale." As far as being a better player, you're doing yourself a disservice by exclusively participating one facet of pvp. Everything else is just having fun with your friends.

Yes, so this on so many levels. I wouldn't be here if there wasn't people I absolutely adored here. I just play to enjoy my time with them (:

Besides, I've felt I've become a more rounded player participating in all aspects of ESO. Even PvE. o:

We must not speak of pve

Elong · May 2017

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

I just play the game in varying group sizes with my friends to have fun and if something reasonably cool happens I press record and put a song behind it.

Besides recording often, this is mostly what I do. My favorite is duoing, but, honestly, when people whisper me wanting to hang out, I can't say no. So I end up in a 4-8 man group more often than not. Bigger groups on my guild's raid nights, but other than that I just like to wander to Nikel/Roe and potato around. I like my friends and enjoy their company; therefore, I've never thought anything bad with playing with friends.

Sometimes zerg surfing is fun, sometimes getting zerged down all the way across the map is fun, sometimes oiling pugs on breaches is fun, sometimes larger groups are fun. Every group size has the potential to be fun. I have my preferences, but I don't see the need to stick labels on playstyles o:

Sure, do I usually prefer to fight in smaller precision based groups, yes. However, if it wasn't for the friends I have made in this game, I likely wouldn't be playing it any more with its laundry list of "problems." I don't let some arbitrary number come between that, it just means that we have to aim for bigger and bigger game. Hell, I even enjoyed when members of Khole and VE joined together about a week or two ago to form a voltron group of 18 I think our max number was, give or take an afk or added group member. And we went forth and fought factions. I don't claim to be anything other than a stamplar who pvp's. Still don't really understand the necessary means for distinction between the categories. I've seen "smallscalers" do horrible in larger groups vs other normally "zergers" and I've seen "zergers" do horrible in "smallscale." As far as being a better player, you're doing yourself a disservice by exclusively participating one facet of pvp. Everything else is just having fun with your friends.

All of this! ^^

Zander98 · May 2017

Friends and enemies too.
If all the sudden all the skilled players from other factions who often wipe me quit the game.....
Why log in?
Friends and enemies.