PTS Patch Notes v3.0.2

Masel · May 2017

Buff the Light and Medium armor passives already. Then you'd have a choice between damage and sustain after all.

LiquidPony · May 2017

Juhasow wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

so NB grim focus still not touched....nb will be still on bottom dps because of lack good damage in his skills lol with still removed bonus to attacks from stealth...I dont see future for this class in pve dps and open fights outside gank except just few players on server who have mastered this class

With 45% uptime of Major Slayer (if You're using soul harvest) nb can be actually in good position after update. Cheap ultimates can be nice especially nb ulti that also gives 20% dmg buff. Also about Grim Focus They said they may tweak it not that they'll tweak it for sure.

@Juhasow
It's pretty sad that the only way an entire class is useful in PvE is if they are running 1 or 2 specific sets from the new Trial. That's not balance.

And besides, Templars and Wardens also have cheap ultimates (and much more utility).

Militan1404 · May 2017

Where are the dk changes...?

Alcast · May 2017

KaraBela94 · May 2017

Militan1404 wrote: »

Where are the dk changes...?

They just want the DK to Die....

All we can say R.I.P DK-Players

TrinityBreaker · May 2017

RIP my glorious stam DK.

Shad0wfire99 · May 2017

Keep scrubbing comments. That'll make it better.

ZOS_GinaBruno · May 2017

Guys, we understand there are some changes in this patch that you may not agree with, or you feel additional changes are still necessary. We like to leave the PTS patch notes thread open so you can voice your feedback and concerns with us (since we are, after all, still in a testing phase). That said, personal insults or bashing our devs will not be tolerated. Moreover, these posts just aren't constructive or conducive toward making improvements. You can be honest with us, but you need to do so in a constructive manner.

In addition, keep in mind that even if one particular class or ability hasn't been adjusted, the overall balance is still affected with other changes. As always, we encourage you to hop on the PTS once maintenance is over and try these changes out for yourself in a live environment. Battlegrounds would be the perfect place to do so.

Moiskormoimi · May 2017

Nebthet78 · May 2017

Wow.. just damn at these patch notes.

Seriously players, if you don't agree with these patch notes or where this game is going, cancel your preorders, cancel your subs and stop buying crowns. Hitting them in the wallet is going to be the only way they are going to listen in the long run.

It's obvious these devs have no clue what they are doing, or if they do, they don't care.
I'm beginning to think the closed beta is there as damage control more than anything else due to the NDA so we players can't go around telling and especially showing other players how bad it really is.

danno8 · May 2017

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

Tri Focus: This passive’s splash damage with Lightning Staves is no longer increased by damage modifiers.
Developer Comments:

Area of Effect damage with Lightning Staff Heavy Attacks is currently too high, due to how the splash damage from Tri Focus “double dips” in damage modifiers; the damage modifier would first multiply the Heavy Attack damage, then also multiply the Tri Focus splash damage. This resulted in the splash damage being higher than the damage on the initial target, instead of the intended 100%.

R.I.P

Come on now. The splash damage being higher than the targets damage made no sense at all. And calculating a CP stars contribution twice also made no sense.

It still delivers 100% AoE damage. I personally am glad they didn't go and nerf all Heavy Attack damage by 50% in order to encourage build diversity and prevent HA builds dominating in Morrowind.

I guess there is still a month left for that to happen though...

SirCritical · May 2017

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

Tri Focus: This passive’s splash damage with Lightning Staves is no longer increased by damage modifiers.
Developer Comments:

Area of Effect damage with Lightning Staff Heavy Attacks is currently too high, due to how the splash damage from Tri Focus “double dips” in damage modifiers; the damage modifier would first multiply the Heavy Attack damage, then also multiply the Tri Focus splash damage. This resulted in the splash damage being higher than the damage on the initial target, instead of the intended 100%.

R.I.P

Let's admit silently: that's not normal to have a meaningful and viable build, which relies on pure heavy attacking with a single weapon. I'd like to see a stam weapon which hvy attack is channeled.

Zoner · May 2017

"What's that enraged screeching sound coming from the peons?"

"Uh, I think they want more nerfs to NB and DK sir"

"MAKE IT SO."

*screeching increases*

Elsterchen · May 2017

Actually and pls do not burn me, but I am fine with some changes. Having tried none yet, javeline change sounds pretty interesting (especially when pooping ppl down at bleakers... usually the fall damage will do the rest, so its a neat somewhat-ganking experience for a templar

). What remains to be tried is if the 2nd morphs ability to push not only the enemie but the caster backwards increased in distance as well. Gonna be jump escaping as smoothly as ... well... ok lets just not talk about the aesthetics.

The tweak to shards is fine, the shared cooldown still hurts so do the reduced recources... but its at least an option, now.

Interesting change, too: "The monsters summoned from the Summon Shade ability or the Maw of the Infernal Item Set will now respond to pet commands and will change targets if you use a heavy attack."

Well, thats just first impressions.

Moglijuana · May 2017

WTF kind of "improvements" are these? You seriously think it's ok for MDK to run out of resources by SIMPLY BUFFING UP? What a joke.

Hutch679 · May 2017

Anyone want my DK for a target dummy in their house?

Joy_Division · May 2017

I don;t know why so many people are wondering why there are no DK changes, or why ZoS has not taken into account player feedback on resource sustain, or why there weren't very many changes at all in these notes.

How you not been playing attention to the PTS process? All we are going to get is minor tweaks and token changes because ZoS has never modified, let alone reverted, the core essence of a patch. Quite frankly I don;t even know why people mash their F5 key in anticipation of Patch Notes when they have been nothing more than a compendium of nerfs for at least the past year and I would argue all the way back to the Imperial city Patch. Indeed, it has come to the point where I dread ZoS's updates because despite their good intentions, they keep making the game worse and more frustrating to play.

souravami · May 2017

Nice direction this game is going.

wimhwimladimf · May 2017

Sorc changes are placed in wrong spot, because Crystal Fragments arent really used outside of the proc due to high mana cost/channeling time and average dmg for the mana spent, so basically people will just replace it with some kind of dot in pve and pvp it really wasnt problem compared to stacking shields.

Instead of changing Crystal Fragments you should make multiple shields not stack.

Sandman929 · May 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Guys, we understand there are some changes in this patch that you may not agree with, or you feel additional changes are still necessary. We like to leave the PTS patch notes thread open so you can voice your feedback and concerns with us (since we are, after all, still in a testing phase). That said, personal insults or bashing our devs will not be tolerated. Moreover, these posts just aren't constructive or conducive toward making improvements. You can be honest with us, but you need to do so in a constructive manner.

In addition, keep in mind that even if one particular class or ability hasn't been adjusted, the overall balance is still affected with other changes. As always, we encourage you to hop on the PTS once maintenance is over and try these changes out for yourself in a live environment. Battlegrounds would be the perfect place to do so.

Interesting. What sacrifices will Stamina Sorcs have to make to have high damage, high tankiness, and high sustain?

Cronopoly · May 2017

Templars - "Whatever you do don't touch this button."

"I am Groot"

No!!! That's the death button that will kill us all"

Much needed step back for a laugh at this point...

Akimbro · May 2017

Nifty2g wrote: »

lmao heavy attack nerf, seen that one coming. such a joke

Why the hell do we even bother. They force us down one playstyle and then nerf that as well...

These devs are a joke...

Draqone · May 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Guys, we understand there are some changes in this patch that you may not agree with, or you feel additional changes are still necessary. We like to leave the PTS patch notes thread open so you can voice your feedback and concerns with us (since we are, after all, still in a testing phase). That said, personal insults or bashing our devs will not be tolerated. Moreover, these posts just aren't constructive or conducive toward making improvements. You can be honest with us, but you need to do so in a constructive manner.

In addition, keep in mind that even if one particular class or ability hasn't been adjusted, the overall balance is still affected with other changes. As always, we encourage you to hop on the PTS once maintenance is over and try these changes out for yourself in a live environment. Battlegrounds would be the perfect place to do so.

@ZOS_GinaBruno Don't worry, the changes while not exactly great are at least heading in the right direction, it's just the regular forum dramaqueens crying.

Armann · May 2017

Alcast wrote: »

Nerfs, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.

I love the smell of nerfs in the morning. You know, one time we had DKs nerfed, for weeks. When it was all over, I logged in. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' DK body. The nerfs, you know that DK nerf, the whole server. Smelled like... victory.

Someday this PTS cycle gonna end...

justsmurfitall · May 2017

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*]Magister Makes a Move: Florinna Avau will now actually stay rescued once you rescue her.

According to Princess Peach, that is not how this works.

Sigtric · May 2017

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Wow.. just damn at these patch notes.

Seriously players, if you don't agree with these patch notes or where this game is going, cancel your preorders, cancel your subs and stop buying crowns. Hitting them in the wallet is going to be the only way they are going to listen in the long run.

It's obvious these devs have no clue what they are doing, or if they do, they don't care.
I'm beginning to think the closed beta is there as damage control more than anything else due to the NDA so we players can't go around telling and especially showing other players how bad it really is.

Uhh, the NDA is only protecting warden specific and vvardenfell specific information. All these class balancing and sustain changes are not covered under the NDA. There's a hole in your tinfoil.

RomansXXI · May 2017

When will the pts be back up so we can all test these changes first hand instead of going off words? People be venting without even testing them yet!

CyrusArya · May 2017

wimhwimladimf wrote: »

Instead of changing Crystal Fragments you should make multiple shields not stack.

Sure, they can do that as soon as they give sorcs more defensive utility to compensate. Its cool that the other classes can 'stack' shields with their native defensive capabilities, but magicka sorc shouldnt be able to right? Besides, shield stacking is a non factor with enough pressure. What people dont realize is that you can either shield stack or apply damage, not both at the same time. This opposed to stam or healing builds that can be offensive and defensive at the same time.

Apply enough pressure to a sorc, and ya they will turtle and be hard to kill, but they will also be shut down offensively. Thats the balance. So in conclusion, all the people that cry about shield stacking just really need to learn how to apply more offensive pressure.

Akimbro · May 2017

Joy_Division wrote: »

I don;t know why so many people are wondering why there are no DK changes, or why ZoS has not taken into account player feedback on resource sustain, or why there weren't very many changes at all in these notes.

How you not been playing attention to the PTS process? All we are going to get is minor tweaks and token changes because ZoS has never modified, let alone reverted, the core essence of a patch. Quite frankly I don;t even know why people mash their F5 key in anticipation of Patch Notes when they have been nothing more than a compendium of nerfs for at least the past year and I would argue all the way back to the Imperial city Patch. Indeed, it has come to the point where I dread ZoS's updates because despite their good intentions, they keep making the game worse and more frustrating to play.

Because to them we're all just complaining since it's not the week before launch day yet.

OrphanHelgen · May 2017

Players feel a step back each patch, which is kind of the opposite of what a MMO game should do. That's the reason behind all the complaining, not necessarily because the balance is needed.