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Venom Arrow - Crushing Shock - Remove Ability Interrupt, Keep Stun?
Avran_Sylt
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As the title states, Should Venom Arrow and Crushing Shock have the ability to interrupt player skills removed from them?
Instead only Setting the target off balance, and stunning them if they are mid cast.
The reasoning behind this is that Melee has no counterpart to this ability. They have stuns, yes, but those are on a CC cooldown after use, and can be prevented by Immovability potions. They have no way to interrupt player abilities using a regular ability.
Edited by Avran_Sylt on May 1, 2017 7:27AM Instead only Setting the target off balance, and stunning them if they are mid cast.
The reasoning behind this is that Melee has no counterpart to this ability. They have stuns, yes, but those are on a CC cooldown after use, and can be prevented by Immovability potions. They have no way to interrupt player abilities using a regular ability.
Venom Arrow - Crushing Shock - Remove Ability Interrupt, Keep Stun? 22 votes
Yes - Remove It
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1 vote
No - Keep It
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No - Give Melee an Interrupt Ability
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Other
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I Don't Care.
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Taylor_MB✭✭✭✭✭
✭No - Keep ItBash.PvP Defensive Set Comparison
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No - Keep ItAs Taylor MB said if you're in melee range you have the move available to everyone ready to go.
If you're at range these are your own two options and not even used by all builds/classes. As a Magicka Nightblade I don't have a ranged interrupt as I use Swallow Soul not Crushing Shock.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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Just tested it, bashing does not interrupt players using an ability such as uppercut.Edited by Avran_Sylt on May 1, 2017 7:27AM0 -
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✭No - Keep ItAvran_Sylt wrote: »@Taylor_MB
Just tested it, bashing does not interrupt players using an ability such as uppercut.
Neither does crushing shock. Uppercut and other melee cast time abilities are not interruptible by any means other than regular CC. Everything you can interrupt with crushy you can also bash to get the same effect.Jo'Khaljor3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No - Keep ItAFAIK you can't interrupt normal (non-interuptable) attacks with Crushing Shock and CC immunity protected them from it happening again.
Granted it's been like a year since I used the skill.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭No - Keep ItAFAIK you can't interrupt normal (non-interuptable) attacks with Crushing Shock and CC immunity protected them from it happening again.
Granted it's been like a year since I used the skill.
CC immunity only protects against the CC portion of being interrupted. The cast will still be canceled.Jo'Khaljor1 -
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Oh.... k.... so melee can't counter itself(ability cancel), but ranged can counter itself(ability cancel)?
That seems... kind of damned annoying. why the hell can't you shield bash that [snip] who's spamming execute on you while you're blocking?
As a ranged I can interrupt that snipe spam of yours. Why can't I interrupt your shield bashing charge where you're essentially flying in a direction?
[Edited to remove profanity]Edited by ZOS_KatP on October 28, 2017 6:30PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No - Keep ItAvran_Sylt wrote: »@Ahzek @Turelus
Oh.... k.... so melee can't counter itself(ability cancel), but ranged can counter itself(ability cancel)?
That seems... kind of damned annoying. why the hell can't you shield bash that [snip] who's spamming execute on you while you're blocking?
As a ranged I can interrupt that snipe spam of yours. Why can't I interrupt your shield bashing charge where you're essentially flying in a direction?
Instant vs Cast Time / Channel.
Cheers.AFAIK you can't interrupt normal (non-interuptable) attacks with Crushing Shock and CC immunity protected them from it happening again.
Granted it's been like a year since I used the skill.
CC immunity only protects against the CC portion of being interrupted. The cast will still be canceled.
[Edited for quote]Edited by ZOS_KatP on October 28, 2017 6:30PM@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭✭✭✭✭No - Keep ItAvran_Sylt wrote: »As the title states, Should Venom Arrow and Crushing Shock have the ability to interrupt player skills removed from them?
Instead only Setting the target off balance, and stunning them if they are mid cast.
The reasoning behind this is that Melee has no counterpart to this ability. They have stuns, yes, but those are on a CC cooldown after use, and can be prevented by Immovability potions. They have no way to interrupt player abilities using a regular ability.
Melee have a great interrupt. It is called bash. Since they are in melee range it is easy to do and does not require choosing a morph of something that does less damage.
Further, the stun would not make sense if it did not interrupt.
And finally, if the point is that melee is not always in range a player using a skill that can be interrupted with bash then the answer is gap closer.
With that in mind, there is no problem with how either skill works.
It also appears OP is not aware that some skills are immune to interrupts which may be part of the reason for the poll. I see others brought clarity to OPs original statement. Much of PvP is knowing what one can and cannot do.
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✭No - Keep ItAvran_Sylt wrote: »@Ahzek @Turelus
Oh.... k.... so melee can't counter itself(ability cancel), but ranged can counter itself(ability cancel)?
That seems... kind of damned annoying. why the hell can't you shield bash that [snip] who's spamming execute on you while you're blocking?
As a ranged I can interrupt that snipe spam of yours. Why can't I interrupt your shield bashing charge where you're essentially flying in a direction?
Cause that level of interrupting would kill anyone with slightly bad ping. Maybe if this was setup like Battlefield / CoD with local servers all over the place, but this mega server setup? Not possible at all.
[Edited for quote]Edited by ZOS_KatP on October 28, 2017 6:30PMPvP Defensive Set Comparison
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