Earthtear Cavern, come on down! You're the next contestant on the price is...

iNSiPiD1 · March 2017

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

People would bunch up in line for a refund for that if they made that possible.

I speculate that many, many more would be lining up to purchases houses compared to the few who would actually refund.

Bladerunner1 · March 2017

The price on the cavern is close to what I expected. Not getting it though because it's not as interesting to me as the island.

I've been sitting on loads of subber crowns and will continue to do so until I see what housing comes with Morrowind, if it doesn't seem better than the island I'll just get the island. It doesn't make sense to have so many housing options yet only one house can be set for visitors. Otherwise I'd be tempted with the cave...maybe.

RustyBlades · March 2017

MythicEmperor wrote: »

Definitely overpriced, like all the other houses.

Most of the other houses can be bought with gold, too. So there is that.

Rawst · March 2017

Ok, now make sure to keep the island's price the same. Do not increase it.

NightbladeMechanics · March 2017

I wish I could go outside the front entrance, and up in that right side platform.

But I still don't regret buying it. Just won't be encouraging others to get it.

Anyone's welcome to check mine out. NA PC if you can get a link to my name to port in. There are basic structures coming together. I made other players visitors by default.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom · March 2017

In regards to the disappointment over the lack of title for the Earthtear Cavern when other Notable Homes grant one, we hear you and we're looking into what we can do.

MythicEmperor · March 2017

RustyBlades wrote: »

MythicEmperor wrote: »

Definitely overpriced, like all the other houses.

Most of the other houses can be bought with gold, too. So there is that.

Yeah, but for $3 million gold each? Is it not obvious how ZOS is making the base game inconvenient so that the crown store looks more convenient? This seems to be the route that all cash shop MMOs succumb to, eventually.

MadLarkin · March 2017

MythicEmperor wrote: »

RustyBlades wrote: »

MythicEmperor wrote: »

Definitely overpriced, like all the other houses.

Most of the other houses can be bought with gold, too. So there is that.

Yeah, but for $3 million gold each? Is it not obvious how ZOS is making the base game inconvenient so that the crown store looks more convenient? This seems to be the route that all cash shop MMOs succumb to, eventually.

And, most cash shop MMO's are F2P. They don't have a base cost, paid DLC, and paid expansions. With a rebel yell, ZOS cried "more, more more!"

code65536 · March 2017

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In regards to the disappointment over the lack of title for the Earthtear Cavern when other Notable Homes grant one, we hear you and we're looking into what we can do.

Please don't make this change. No achievement in the game should be a crown-store exclusive. Period. That is a line that should not be crossed.

If you are going to add a title and achievement for the Cavern, then it needs to be obtainable with in-game gold.

Enodoc · March 2017

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In regards to the disappointment over the lack of title for the Earthtear Cavern when other Notable Homes grant one, we hear you and we're looking into what we can do.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Please don't. That would literally be a Crown Store exclusive title. There shouldn't be any titles you can't get from standard gameplay.

KerinKor · March 2017

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In regards to the disappointment over the lack of title for the Earthtear Cavern when other Notable Homes grant one, we hear you and we're looking into what we can do.

Because buying something with real world cash so much demands the reward of a title!

/sigh

Eisenhovver · March 2017

Enodoc wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In regards to the disappointment over the lack of title for the Earthtear Cavern when other Notable Homes grant one, we hear you and we're looking into what we can do.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Please don't. That would literally be a Crown Store exclusive title. There shouldn't be any titles you can't get from standard gameplay.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

100% this.

If you add the title, people will see it as a negative. Crown Store exclusive titles are the beginning to the slippery slope that the team has avoided thus far called pay to win. People are proud of their titles and making them buy-able and only obtainable by buying is a mistake.

LuminaLilly · March 2017

Y'all have so much disposable income lol, $120 sounds more daunting than 13000 crowns

I can get the Morrowind collectors edition with that price. Not to mention Morrowind will have hours and hours of new gameplay and stuff to do. Well this $120 worth of house you'll just be able to put trinkets in and shoot target skeletons.

Don't get me wrong, how you spend your own money it's none of my business, and I buy my fair share of crowns to support Zos and collect costumes, but I just kind of find it absurd how people don't think $120 is overpriced.

Evergnar · March 2017

Not sure what good an enormous amount of space is with the item caps are the way they are.

Whatever floats your boat I guess but there would have to be a lot more added/improved to housing before I'd spend that kind of real money on it.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom · March 2017

Enodoc wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Please don't. That would literally be a Crown Store exclusive title. There shouldn't be any titles you can't get from standard gameplay.

Noted (along with the other similar replies.) Thanks @Enodoc, it's always good to hear the pros and cons from a player-perspective.

Slurg · March 2017

Enodoc wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In regards to the disappointment over the lack of title for the Earthtear Cavern when other Notable Homes grant one, we hear you and we're looking into what we can do.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Please don't. That would literally be a Crown Store exclusive title. There shouldn't be any titles you can't get from standard gameplay.

Agree with this.

I think a better solution to give the cavern - and all the manors - more value would be to raise the visitor and item cap.

rotaugen454 · March 2017

Make houses have storage, with the bigger places having more. Yes, this house is crowns only, but you could buy enough with gold to have a massive amount of storage. If you still need more, you are a hoarder. They'll have to start production on "Hoarders:ESO Edition".

Soella · March 2017

Slurg wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In regards to the disappointment over the lack of title for the Earthtear Cavern when other Notable Homes grant one, we hear you and we're looking into what we can do.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Please don't. That would literally be a Crown Store exclusive title. There shouldn't be any titles you can't get from standard gameplay.

Agree with this.

I think a better solution to give the cavern - and all the manors - more value would be to raise the visitor and item cap.

Raise visitor cap will be far worse than title. It will immediately make "must have" for many guilds and RPers. For me housing and decorations are kind of economical end game, and crown specific house with increased capacity is pay to win. It should not happen in any case.

Item cap can be reasonable improvement, especially taking into account size of property.

Slurg · March 2017

Soella wrote: »

Slurg wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In regards to the disappointment over the lack of title for the Earthtear Cavern when other Notable Homes grant one, we hear you and we're looking into what we can do.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Please don't. That would literally be a Crown Store exclusive title. There shouldn't be any titles you can't get from standard gameplay.

Agree with this.

I think a better solution to give the cavern - and all the manors - more value would be to raise the visitor and item cap.

Raise visitor cap will be far worse than title. It will immediately make "must have" for many guilds and RPers. For me housing and decorations are kind of economical end game, and crown specific house with increased capacity is pay to win. It should not happen in any case.

Item cap can be reasonable improvement, especially taking into account size of property.

Why is it worse to give increased visitor cap to all manors, which is what I actually said? Guilds use the existing ones already.

Malamar1229 · March 2017

I really like this cavern for a werewolf or vampire type den. 100% RP stuff.

I can absolutely afford it, but my hesitation stems more from the thought of a house doing nothing to me. If housing was more open, like in Star wars galaxies, where players could enter freely and see...thatd be more appealing to me.

Homes also dont offer anything, hell not even additional storage. There is nothing a home offers that Belkarth doesnt.

I just dont get it, outside of the fun of decorating it.

On a side note, does anyone know if theres gold coin furnishing or treasure chests (remember back to the thieves guild dlc sceen). I think a priate cove theme would be cool for the cavern

Malamar1229 · March 2017

Heres another question, if they dropped the price to, say 8k crowns, do you think theyd sell more to where profit would be higher than it is at 13k?

Kodrac · March 2017

MythicEmperor wrote: »

RustyBlades wrote: »

MythicEmperor wrote: »

Definitely overpriced, like all the other houses.

Most of the other houses can be bought with gold, too. So there is that.

Yeah, but for $3 million gold each? Is it not obvious how ZOS is making the base game inconvenient so that the crown store looks more convenient? This seems to be the route that all cash shop MMOs succumb to, eventually.

No, its a gold sink.

Eisenhovver · March 2017

Soella wrote: »

Slurg wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In regards to the disappointment over the lack of title for the Earthtear Cavern when other Notable Homes grant one, we hear you and we're looking into what we can do.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom Please don't. That would literally be a Crown Store exclusive title. There shouldn't be any titles you can't get from standard gameplay.

Agree with this.

I think a better solution to give the cavern - and all the manors - more value would be to raise the visitor and item cap.

Raise visitor cap will be far worse than title. It will immediately make "must have" for many guilds and RPers. For me housing and decorations are kind of economical end game, and crown specific house with increased capacity is pay to win. It should not happen in any case.

Item cap can be reasonable improvement, especially taking into account size of property.

So what you are arguing is that the person who can fit more people in his home, is winning the game more than the person who is too busy getting emperor or finishing vMoL hard mode to even care about housing?

I disagree with anyone saying that stuff in your house is pay to win. It is all cosmetics. If looking pretty or having a house is your measure of winning... you're wrong.

jcaceresw · March 2017

Katahdin wrote: »

AdamBourke wrote: »

Why is everyone saying this is well priced? It's like, $95!

Because most of us were afraid it was going to be $200

Shhhh... don't give them ideas

jcaceresw · March 2017

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In regards to the disappointment over the lack of title for the Earthtear Cavern when other Notable Homes grant one, we hear you and we're looking into what we can do.

Please, make it so for the Crown Motifs too!

NeillMcAttack · March 2017

A fool and their money.....

Appleblade · March 2017

AndyTGD wrote: »

I agree with Zypheran, the issue is not the potential value for the individual, but rather the concern that such acceptance will encourage ZOS to raise the price of future content. If someone has the money and wants to treat themselves to a $100 virtual house, that's theirs to spend. I don't think it necessarily will be a problem though; I can't imagine too many individuals buying the cave - especially at the full asking price. That said, I've seen a lot of people riding around on Crown Crate mounts, so perhaps there are a good number of people with deep pockets.

The gentrification of Tamriel. ;-)

I don't personally see the point of this cluster of digital polygons at this price point. If that's insulting to someone and they think I'm dictating what they should do, that's on them.

I particularly like the guy who brought up millions of dollars spent on some rare comic books, as if the fake cave house is an investment grade collectible they're going to resell at a profit at some point.

Appleblade · March 2017

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

A fool and their money.....

Hey, that could be the title you get with the cave!

ZOS_JessicaFolsom · March 2017

Slurg wrote: »

I think a better solution to give the cavern - and all the manors - more value would be to raise the visitor and item cap.

Increasing the item and visitor cap is on our radar, and something we're exploring for most homes.

Turelus · March 2017

Enodoc wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

In regards to the disappointment over the lack of title for the Earthtear Cavern when other Notable Homes grant one, we hear you and we're looking into what we can do.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom Please don't. That would literally be a Crown Store exclusive title. There shouldn't be any titles you can't get from standard gameplay.

This man speaks the truth.

I do hope as per your reply post this doesn't happen Jessica. If it's a title which any notable home unlocks that would be fine (for me at least) but if it's one you specifically need a Crown Store purchase for (and especially one at this price) I would be greatly upset.