Enipfodnuos wrote: »Personally my fab way to deal with magdks is to simply run purge. Shuts down there game more often than not.
ColoursYouHave wrote: »Enipfodnuos wrote: »Personally my fab way to deal with magdks is to simply run purge. Shuts down there game more often than not.
Yeah, fighting a Magplar on a Mag DK can be a real pain for that reason. Just gotta make sure you're ready to reapply your DOTs the second they cleanse. Luckily, cleansing with Purge usually costs more than reapplying DOTs and Templars tend to have pretty poor burst so I can use Burning Embers and Healing Ward to heal through their damage anyways, meaning it usually just turns into a really long battle of attrition. I find that a lot of times when that happens the Templar will eventually just stop attacking me, and while I'm usually still good to keep fighting, I'll accept their truce and let them leave to find quicker fights.
With non-Templar builds running Purge it tends to be more difficult to deal with their damage, but since they're forced to use the more expensive cleanse, by reapplying DOTs quickly you can force them to either drain their Magicka pool casting Purge, or cast Purge less often allowing you to keep up pressure with your DOTs.
ColoursYouHave wrote: »MagNB cloaks away into the night, never to be seen again.
Would anyone be able to post or PM me a competitive build for Stamina Sorc for bwb?
What kind of stam sorc are you looking to play? What's your playstyle? Do you prefer pure dps in medium, a tankier dps in heavy, two hander, duel wield sword and shield...or even just a tank stam sorc. there are a bunch of different ways to play a stam sorc in bwb that are effective depending on your goals, if you solo, small group or large group pvp.
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Hi Tipsy
I prefer to be solo/small grp play. so somthing that has sustain, some tankyness but can also do dammage. Any weapon I suppose. 2h seems so meta and I would love somthing that would work with dw.
S&B/2h buff bar if you feel confident animation canceling everything you do. 2h/s&b buff bar if you want to DS everything to death. I prefer the former over the latter because I can switch from tanking to DPS faster and maintain debuffs at the same time. Otherwise, I run 7h.
Enipfodnuos wrote: »S&B/2h buff bar if you feel confident animation canceling everything you do. 2h/s&b buff bar if you want to DS everything to death. I prefer the former over the latter because I can switch from tanking to DPS faster and maintain debuffs at the same time. Otherwise, I run 7h.
Can I ask what animation cancels specifically? Like heavy attack>ransack>light attack>bash? I'm asking because I've been working on it with S/B and duel wields . I've grown tired of the 2H meta.
ColoursYouHave wrote: »Enipfodnuos wrote: »S&B/2h buff bar if you feel confident animation canceling everything you do. 2h/s&b buff bar if you want to DS everything to death. I prefer the former over the latter because I can switch from tanking to DPS faster and maintain debuffs at the same time. Otherwise, I run 7h.
Can I ask what animation cancels specifically? Like heavy attack>ransack>light attack>bash? I'm asking because I've been working on it with S/B and duel wields . I've grown tired of the 2H meta.
I'm actually just about finished with my first Stam S&B build, and I've been practicing light/heavy attack>ransack>bash. I'd think that is better than heavy attack>ransack>light attack>bash since bash is on a separate GCD than basic attacks and skills so you can pair it with both the light/heavy attack and ransack with the same animation. You should be able to do light/heavy>ransack>bash twice in the same time it takes to do the heavy attack>ransack>light attack>bash, meaning you would be getting an extra ransack and an extra bash in the same amount of time.
If anybody more experienced with S&B builds has some thoughts on this though I'd definitely be interested in hearing it.
To me S&B builds or magsorc is the most fun combat. Lots of animation canceling with S&B builds and then some really cool timing with magsorc. Magsorcs who can't time burst are not great magsorcs. I know that's something I still feel like I'm really working on.
Enipfodnuos wrote: »
Cool.ty for this. Animation canceling is def an underdisscussed subject as far as I can tell.
ColoursYouHave wrote: »its kind of my own fault for focusing on Hardened Ward instead of Streak when leveling, as I imagine Streak makes those situations much more manageable.
DeadlyRecluse wrote: »Note that any tips/discussion on ani-cancelling need to consider the animation priority changes in recent(ish) patches (dark brotherhood? Thieves guild? I forget) as well as latency.
I play at about 300 ms constant latency and have to cancel slightly differently because of that.
DeadlyRecluse wrote: »ColoursYouHave wrote: »its kind of my own fault for focusing on Hardened Ward instead of Streak when leveling, as I imagine Streak makes those situations much more manageable.
Streak+Harness Magicka OR Hardened Ward+Elusive Mist, IMO. Either combination can come together relatively early and both fulfill similar objectives.
Enipfodnuos wrote: »Nice video with good pointers. It's funny, I feel like I've been doing some of these combos instinctively. Especially the light attack> skill> etc. The weapon swap cancels are def good food for thought though.
DeadlyRecluse wrote: »Enipfodnuos wrote: »Nice video with good pointers. It's funny, I feel like I've been doing some of these combos instinctively. Especially the light attack> skill> etc. The weapon swap cancels are def good food for thought though.
Weapon swap cancelling, in particular, becomes inconsistent with higher latency or lagspikes.
It depends on what you're wanting to do. If I'm low on resources I actually do a lot of heavy attack --> ransack --> bash, when I'm applying constant pressure I medium weave, and when I need to burst I do LA into the sequence. I think for that sort of build the biggest thing I think makes a huge difference is using your bar swap cancels effectively. When I recast evasion/volatile armor a lot of the time you barely even see it and I'm immediately back on my tank/DPS bar and off of my buff bar.
To me S&B builds or magsorc is the most fun combat. Lots of animation canceling with S&B builds and then some really cool timing with magsorc. Magsorcs who can't time burst are not great magsorcs. I know that's something I still feel like I'm really working on.