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Open letter to all who believe CP should be permanently removed.
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LuminaLilly✭✭✭✭Those who hate CP and want it gone are probably zergbads.
Yep, I'm going there.
probably never had a 1vx experience, but get 1vXed and Xv1 all the time.Edited by LuminaLilly on February 28, 2017 11:30PM1 -
Drikk✭
100% agree with you.flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »I hear people say stuff like CP adds variety, i think its the opposite. You dont have to make choices on whether you want burst damage, high sustain, heals, be a tank, etc. Because with CP you can have it all. You dont have to make choices with your build much and choice between sustain or damage or survivability. I have no played a MMO ever where i could do insane DPS, heal myself back to full and be tanky all in one.
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kevlarto_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »I hear people say stuff like CP adds variety, i think its the opposite. You dont have to make choices on whether you want burst damage, high sustain, heals, be a tank, etc. Because with CP you can have it all. You dont have to make choices with your build much and choice between sustain or damage or survivability. I have no played a MMO ever where i could do insane DPS, heal myself back to full and be tanky all in one.
I agree what would really add variety to the game would be soft caps and hard caps back to the game, the more I play with no cp the more I like it, and I am having fun again which is the most important thing to me, seen a couple of people trying to cheat it is so obvious now not hard to pick them out. I hope they revamp cp points to something else other than they are now or turn them off for pvp.1 -
LuminaLilly✭✭✭✭My hope in this community is far from restored. Everyone is wanting cp gone for good, why? Because they can't stand the fact someones actually better than them and are too lazy to put forth the time like the someone who killed you.
Asking for nerfs left and right. Soon we'll have level 10s being able to 1vX if zenimax kept listening to yall.
Its eso, not your other average mmo. Accept eso for what it is and GRIND.
Stop zerging and try some solo pvp. Your perspective will changeEdited by LuminaLilly on February 28, 2017 11:45PM3 -
Darth_Apache✭✭✭LuminaLilly wrote: »My hope in this community is far from restored. Everyone is wanting cp gone for good, why? Because they can't stand the fact someones actually better than them and are too lazy to put forth the time like the someone who killed you.
Asking for nerfs left and right. Soon we'll have level 10s being able to 1vX if zenimax kept listening to yall.
Its eso, not your other average mmo. Accept eso for what it is and GRIND.
Stop zerging and try some solo pvp. Your perspective will change
"Darth Apache XB1, NA, AD, StamBlade, DW/Bow"
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Drikk✭With the CP system there isn't any challenge.
-Any player could have a supertank, autohealing and dps setup.
- Combats are too slow between good players.
- You have a insane sustain. Unstoppable passive is an example.
- All good players run the same builds.
I think that no CP system does the game faster, dangerous, challenger and funny. I hope the feedback of this week helps to the future 4v4v4.
PD: im not a newbie, 640cp playing ESO for 2 years and other pvp mmorpg like UO, WoW...4 -
WalkingLegacy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Open response to the OP.
Some people don't like treadmills. CP is a hook to keep you playing. They could add everything you wanted into the base skills if they knew how to MMO balance.
They're getting a bit better, I'll give them that credit...2 -
WhiteMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭LuminaLilly wrote: »Those who hate CP and want it gone are probably zergbads.
Yep, I'm going there.
probably never had a 1vx experience, but get 1vXed and Xv1 all the time.
The fact that you can't 1vX without CP just means you aren't one of the really good players.
Yep. I can go there, too.The generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?7 -
Skritha✭Why does it have to be either or?
If this week discovers a bottleneck in the CP system, then retool the CP system to remove the bottleneck.
I'm sure there are umpteen ways to streamline CPs and lessen server load without abandoning post-50 progression. There's no need to throw everything out.0 -
LuminaLilly✭✭✭✭With the CP system there isn't any challenge.
-Any player could have a supertank, autohealing and dps setup.
- Combats are too slow between good players.
- You have a insane sustain. Unstoppable passive is an example.
- All good players run the same builds.
I think that no CP system does the game faster, dangerous, challenger and funny. I hope the feedback of this week helps to the future 4v4v4.
PD: im not a newbie, 640cp playing ESO for 2 years and other pvp mmorpg like UO, WoW...
Ever done solo pvp or 1vXed?0 -
Drikk✭LuminaLilly wrote: »With the CP system there isn't any challenge.
-Any player could have a supertank, autohealing and dps setup.
- Combats are too slow between good players.
- You have a insane sustain. Unstoppable passive is an example.
- All good players run the same builds.
I think that no CP system does the game faster, dangerous, challenger and funny. I hope the feedback of this week helps to the future 4v4v4.
PD: im not a newbie, 640cp playing ESO for 2 years and other pvp mmorpg like UO, WoW...
Ever done solo pvp or 1vXed?
I did 1vX a lot with and without.0 -
disintegr8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It is funny that the non-CP campaigns have always been less densely populated than CP campaigns. This either tells me that people like CP in PVP because it helps them (i.e. they do not have to 'git gud'), or they have just become used to having CP and don't want to stop using them by going into a non-CP campaign.
PVP has always had non-CP campaigns, so I do not agree with any suggestion of pulling CP from all PVP - just go to a different campaign.
The one issue I foresee with CP is that if they keep increasing the cap, any decisions to be made on where to use those points will be obsolete. We will get to the stage of just putting points into everything we find useful and will not have to make a choice to go in one direction or another.
There cannot be any arguments about getting CP being a grind, they are easier than ever to get and at over 700CP I can still earn 1 CP a day without grinding.Australian on PS4 NA server.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion.0 -
LuminaLilly✭✭✭✭disintegr8 wrote: »It is funny that the non-CP campaigns have always been less densely populated than CP campaigns. This either tells me that people like CP in PVP because it helps them (i.e. they do not have to 'git gud'), or they have just become used to having CP and don't want to stop using them by going into a non-CP campaign.
PVP has always had non-CP campaigns, so I do not agree with any suggestion of pulling CP from all PVP - just go to a different campaign.
The one issue I foresee with CP is that if they keep increasing the cap, any decisions to be made on where to use those points will be obsolete. We will get to the stage of just putting points into everything we find useful and will not have to make a choice to go in one direction or another.
There cannot be any arguments about getting CP being a grind, they are easier than ever to get and at over 700CP I can still earn 1 CP a day without grinding.
Im sure you done some grinding. You dont get cp by breathing0 -
WhiteMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭LuminaLilly wrote: »disintegr8 wrote: »It is funny that the non-CP campaigns have always been less densely populated than CP campaigns. This either tells me that people like CP in PVP because it helps them (i.e. they do not have to 'git gud'), or they have just become used to having CP and don't want to stop using them by going into a non-CP campaign.
PVP has always had non-CP campaigns, so I do not agree with any suggestion of pulling CP from all PVP - just go to a different campaign.
The one issue I foresee with CP is that if they keep increasing the cap, any decisions to be made on where to use those points will be obsolete. We will get to the stage of just putting points into everything we find useful and will not have to make a choice to go in one direction or another.
There cannot be any arguments about getting CP being a grind, they are easier than ever to get and at over 700CP I can still earn 1 CP a day without grinding.
Im sure you done some grinding. You dont get cp by breathing
You get XP from killing things, which to many PvPers is like breathing. And that, of course, earns CP.The generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?1 -
Darth_Apache✭✭✭LuminaLilly wrote: »disintegr8 wrote: »It is funny that the non-CP campaigns have always been less densely populated than CP campaigns. This either tells me that people like CP in PVP because it helps them (i.e. they do not have to 'git gud'), or they have just become used to having CP and don't want to stop using them by going into a non-CP campaign.
PVP has always had non-CP campaigns, so I do not agree with any suggestion of pulling CP from all PVP - just go to a different campaign.
The one issue I foresee with CP is that if they keep increasing the cap, any decisions to be made on where to use those points will be obsolete. We will get to the stage of just putting points into everything we find useful and will not have to make a choice to go in one direction or another.
There cannot be any arguments about getting CP being a grind, they are easier than ever to get and at over 700CP I can still earn 1 CP a day without grinding.
Im sure you done some grinding. You dont get cp by breathing
You get XP from killing things, which to many PvPers is like breathing. And that, of course, earns CP.
Now imagine if we had an auto attack and auto pot...
fuuuuuuuuh"Darth Apache XB1, NA, AD, StamBlade, DW/Bow"
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LuminaLilly✭✭✭✭LuminaLilly wrote: »Those who hate CP and want it gone are probably zergbads.
Yep, I'm going there.
probably never had a 1vx experience, but get 1vXed and Xv1 all the time.
The fact that you can't 1vX without CP just means you aren't one of the really good players.
Yep. I can go there, too.
Let's see you 1vX. Oh wait, no, you are in those 7 man groups who struggle to kill a cp 600Edited by LuminaLilly on March 1, 2017 12:17AM1 -
WhiteMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭LuminaLilly wrote: »LuminaLilly wrote: »Those who hate CP and want it gone are probably zergbads.
Yep, I'm going there.
probably never had a 1vx experience, but get 1vXed and Xv1 all the time.
The fact that you can't 1vX without CP just means you aren't one of the really good players.
Yep. I can go there, too.
Let's see you 1vX. Oh wait, no, you are in those 7 man groups who struggle to kill a cp 600
Bring a friend, maybe I'll see you in Azura's Star tonight.
Good guess about the 7-man group thing. Only problem is I have no friends. #ForeverAloneEdited by WhiteMage on March 1, 2017 12:20AMThe generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?3 -
Darth_Apache✭✭✭LuminaLilly wrote: »LuminaLilly wrote: »Those who hate CP and want it gone are probably zergbads.
Yep, I'm going there.
probably never had a 1vx experience, but get 1vXed and Xv1 all the time.
The fact that you can't 1vX without CP just means you aren't one of the really good players.
Yep. I can go there, too.
Let's see you 1vX. Oh wait, no, you are in those 7 man groups who struggle to kill a cp 600
Bring a friend, maybe I'll see you in Azura's Star tonight.
"Darth Apache XB1, NA, AD, StamBlade, DW/Bow"
Insurrection - The Eye - The Nightshade Consortium
Aldmeri Dominion3 -
LuminaLilly✭✭✭✭LuminaLilly wrote: »LuminaLilly wrote: »Those who hate CP and want it gone are probably zergbads.
Yep, I'm going there.
probably never had a 1vx experience, but get 1vXed and Xv1 all the time.
The fact that you can't 1vX without CP just means you aren't one of the really good players.
Yep. I can go there, too.
Let's see you 1vX. Oh wait, no, you are in those 7 man groups who struggle to kill a cp 600
Bring a friend, maybe I'll see you in Azura's Star tonight.
Good guess about the 7-man group thing. Only problem is I have no friends. #ForeverAlone
What part of solo do you not understand #foreveralone
You can duel me, xb1 naEdited by LuminaLilly on March 1, 2017 12:25AM0 -
WhiteMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭LuminaLilly wrote: »Or come duel me, xb1 na
Awww, it wasn't meant to be... I play on PC/NA.The generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?0 -
LuminaLilly✭✭✭✭Hopefully I can crank up that old junk pile of a pc of mine
I transferred to xb1 after my pc kicked the bucket 0 -
WhiteMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭LuminaLilly wrote: »Hopefully I can crank up that old junk pile of a pc of mine I transferred to xb1 after my pc kicked the bucket
Well if you're serious, hit me up in PM. Hopefully you're not DC...
Alternatively, I have a level 4 in the starter areas of XB1 NA, but I warn you... he's terrible.The generally amicable yet sporadically salty magplar that may or may not have 1vXed you in Sotha Sil. Who knows?0 -
LuminaLilly✭✭✭✭One things for sure. Lag is pretty hefty in haderus xb1na even without cp. I doubt they'll be taking off cp.0
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Darth_Apache✭✭✭LuminaLilly wrote: »Hopefully I can crank up that old junk pile of a pc of mine I transferred to xb1 after my pc kicked the bucket
Well if you're serious, hit me up in PM. Hopefully you're not DC...
Alternatively, I have a level 4 in the starter areas of XB1 NA, but I warn you... he's terrible.
Let's make this happen!
I'll instigate...er moderate."Darth Apache XB1, NA, AD, StamBlade, DW/Bow"
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disintegr8✭✭✭✭✭
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Only if questing comes under the banner of Grinding.LuminaLilly wrote: »disintegr8 wrote: »It is funny that the non-CP campaigns have always been less densely populated than CP campaigns. This either tells me that people like CP in PVP because it helps them (i.e. they do not have to 'git gud'), or they have just become used to having CP and don't want to stop using them by going into a non-CP campaign.
PVP has always had non-CP campaigns, so I do not agree with any suggestion of pulling CP from all PVP - just go to a different campaign.
The one issue I foresee with CP is that if they keep increasing the cap, any decisions to be made on where to use those points will be obsolete. We will get to the stage of just putting points into everything we find useful and will not have to make a choice to go in one direction or another.
There cannot be any arguments about getting CP being a grind, they are easier than ever to get and at over 700CP I can still earn 1 CP a day without grinding.
Im sure you done some grinding. You dont get cp by breathing
I was at 496 CP when the vet levels were removed and the original 501 cap came in. All of those 496 CP came while leveling several characters through Vet ranks when we had to level them up to vet 16 individually. Unlike today when I can reach level 50 on an alt and immediately wear CP160 gear, each character had to earn the right to wear max level gear.
That may also come under your definition of grinding, but it was how you had to play the game to level up different characters. Now I earn about 1 CP a day simply by daily writs, doing some dungeons, farming for mats and going back on different characters chasing down unfinished world bosses, dolmens, quests, etc.Australian on PS4 NA server.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion.0 -
LuminaLilly✭✭✭✭LuminaLilly wrote: »Hopefully I can crank up that old junk pile of a pc of mine I transferred to xb1 after my pc kicked the bucket
Well if you're serious, hit me up in PM. Hopefully you're not DC...
Alternatively, I have a level 4 in the starter areas of XB1 NA, but I warn you... he's terrible.
I am DC palatine Dx.
If everyone got their way, that little guy can 1vx as a lvl 4Edited by LuminaLilly on March 1, 2017 12:30AM0 -
Darth_Apache✭✭✭LuminaLilly wrote: »LuminaLilly wrote: »Hopefully I can crank up that old junk pile of a pc of mine I transferred to xb1 after my pc kicked the bucket
Well if you're serious, hit me up in PM. Hopefully you're not DC...
Alternatively, I have a level 4 in the starter areas of XB1 NA, but I warn you... he's terrible.
I am DC palatine Dx.
If everyone got their way, that little guy can 1vx as a lvl 4
"Darth Apache XB1, NA, AD, StamBlade, DW/Bow"
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Aldmeri Dominion0
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