Drain Power for the NB is the most garbage ability I've ever used. This is the last ability unlocked in the Siphoning skill line so it makes zero sense how this is super weak in comparison to just about everything else.
This ability only does 1k AoE damage in total which is TERRIBLE because the average enemy I come across has approximately 45k health. The healing sucks too and even Rendering Slashes
(the first ability in the Dual Wield skill line) heals me more than this ability.
Drain Power seriously needs a MAJOR buff!
Inb4 "L2P" & "this is the best ability evurr! i hope they nerf it!!"
I have already morphed it now and it works like a charm, the unmorphed version still needs improving though because the damage is so small it's pointless to use despite being the last ability in the Siphoning skill line.
Every other MAGICKA based ability has worked perfectly for me EXCEPT this one, which leads me to believe it's underpowered. 19 Magicka is quite a lot so it makes no sense how it does weak damage.
lul scrub git gud l2p noob ez
There, I just saved you the trouble.
bowmanz607 wrote: »you guys dont need to come down hard on op. He just needs a push in the right direction. He does not seem to understand how the game completely works regarding builds etc. Guide him dont shame him. Help players to get better.
bowmanz607 wrote: »you guys dont need to come down hard on op. He just needs a push in the right direction. He does not seem to understand how the game completely works regarding builds etc. Guide him dont shame him. Help players to get better.
haha nope. plus remember spell damage and weapon damage respectively.
I have already morphed it now and it works like a charm, the unmorphed version still needs improving though because the damage is so small it's pointless to use despite being the last ability in the Siphoning skill line.
Every other MAGICKA based ability has worked perfectly for me EXCEPT this one, which leads me to believe it's underpowered. 19 Magicka is quite a lot so it makes no sense how it does weak damage.
lul scrub git gud l2p noob ez
There, I just saved you the trouble.
Drain Power for the NB is the most garbage ability I've ever used. This is the last ability unlocked in the Siphoning skill line so it makes zero sense how this is super weak in comparison to just about everything else.
This ability only does 1k AoE damage in total which is TERRIBLE because the average enemy I come across has approximately 45k health. The healing sucks too and even Rendering Slashes
(the first ability in the Dual Wield skill line) heals me more than this ability.
Drain Power seriously needs a MAJOR buff!
Inb4 "L2P" & "this is the best ability evurr! i hope they nerf it!!"
scorpiodog wrote: »Drain Power for the NB is the most garbage ability I've ever used. This is the last ability unlocked in the Siphoning skill line so it makes zero sense how this is super weak in comparison to just about everything else.
This ability only does 1k AoE damage in total which is TERRIBLE because the average enemy I come across has approximately 45k health. The healing sucks too and even Rendering Slashes
(the first ability in the Dual Wield skill line) heals me more than this ability.
Drain Power seriously needs a MAJOR buff!
Inb4 "L2P" & "this is the best ability evurr! i hope they nerf it!!"
Yeah, Power Extraction is literally the best ability on my Stamblade for PvE. I tested it a few times and it does slightly more damage than the DW "spin to win" skill. It also adds major Brutality, eliminating the need for 2H rally in my build. Used with empower it just melts mobs.
If I was a Magblade I'd use the morph to self heal while doing AOE.
I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.
Power Extraction and Sap Essence are pretty decent but "Drain Power" is completely underpowered compared to every other unmorphed ability I've ever unlocked.
...but... You intend to morph it right? Then just keep it on your bar until it's ready
Yes, but that still doesn't deny that Drain Power is super weak and near worthless.
Well you're not supposed to wreck everything with an unleveled skill. You'll live through it, trust me.
There's a difference between wrecking everything and doing the tiniest damage ever which is probably less damage than a light attack, none of the other unmorphed abilities gave me the same kind of trouble as this one has.
I do think you completely ignored that code explained that the unmorphed version of that skill will scale of you Spell Damage and Max Magica.
You've clearly specced into Stamina and Weapon damage, so you must have really low Spell Damage and Max Magic, so the skill would be very weak because of this.
I have 19 Magicka, 20 Health, and 22 Stamina.
You should be banned from ever posting about skill efficacy with those numbers. Yes, you can play this game however you want, and rock whatever wacky build you feel like, but you have no standing then to complain about skills being weak when your stats are so poorly optimized.
In almost every case, unleveled and unmorphed skills are crap compared to their max level counterparts. This is especially true, as clearly explained above, when is the base skill scales on magic and your stamina character has to live with it until morphed. But with your stats, every skill will be crap. Sure some will be better based on your racial, class, and CP passive, but still utter crap compared to an optimized build.
Probably not the case, but in any case, i think his point is that this is the 5th skill gained, and its not particularly a great skill starting off, to which i agree.
bowmanz607 wrote: »scorpiodog wrote: »Drain Power for the NB is the most garbage ability I've ever used. This is the last ability unlocked in the Siphoning skill line so it makes zero sense how this is super weak in comparison to just about everything else.
This ability only does 1k AoE damage in total which is TERRIBLE because the average enemy I come across has approximately 45k health. The healing sucks too and even Rendering Slashes
(the first ability in the Dual Wield skill line) heals me more than this ability.
Drain Power seriously needs a MAJOR buff!
Inb4 "L2P" & "this is the best ability evurr! i hope they nerf it!!"
Yeah, Power Extraction is literally the best ability on my Stamblade for PvE. I tested it a few times and it does slightly more damage than the DW "spin to win" skill. It also adds major Brutality, eliminating the need for 2H rally in my build. Used with empower it just melts mobs.
If I was a Magblade I'd use the morph to self heal while doing AOE.
It does hit harder in8tially, but tornado hits harder after scaling. Sure you can drop rally in pve, not a good option to do in pvp though. So brutality buff is redundant.
bowmanz607 wrote: »you guys dont need to come down hard on op. He just needs a push in the right direction. He does not seem to understand how the game completely works regarding builds etc. Guide him dont shame him. Help players to get better.
It's all been sorted now anyway, it seems 19 magicka isn't enough to make an unmorphed ability even remotely good.
scorpiodog wrote: »bowmanz607 wrote: »scorpiodog wrote: »Drain Power for the NB is the most garbage ability I've ever used. This is the last ability unlocked in the Siphoning skill line so it makes zero sense how this is super weak in comparison to just about everything else.
This ability only does 1k AoE damage in total which is TERRIBLE because the average enemy I come across has approximately 45k health. The healing sucks too and even Rendering Slashes
(the first ability in the Dual Wield skill line) heals me more than this ability.
Drain Power seriously needs a MAJOR buff!
Inb4 "L2P" & "this is the best ability evurr! i hope they nerf it!!"
Yeah, Power Extraction is literally the best ability on my Stamblade for PvE. I tested it a few times and it does slightly more damage than the DW "spin to win" skill. It also adds major Brutality, eliminating the need for 2H rally in my build. Used with empower it just melts mobs.
If I was a Magblade I'd use the morph to self heal while doing AOE.
It does hit harder in8tially, but tornado hits harder after scaling. Sure you can drop rally in pve, not a good option to do in pvp though. So brutality buff is redundant.
I'll admit I haven't used that character since 1T so I'll have to re-test it.
OP: When numerous experienced people tell you that your understanding of skills and their power is a l2p issue, you might consider that those people are right and you may be wrong with your complaints and views on the matter.
There's a difference between giving advice and then using derogatory remarks such as "l2p", it's just petty and rude.
Yeah the reason you got the responses you did (including from me) were entirely because of how you approached this thread, and not because of what you were asking, nor the fact that you just needed advice. When you decide to unconditionally disagree and throw salt at people trying to explain (especially those who were genuinely trying to help without scrutinizing you), you get this backlash.
If you weren't doing this to intentionally troll people then maybe you'll learn something from the backlash you received. Had you approached this differently, like simply asking if you were doing something wrong, it would have an entirely different thread.
bowmanz607 wrote: »you guys dont need to come down hard on op. He just needs a push in the right direction. He does not seem to understand how the game completely works regarding builds etc. Guide him dont shame him. Help players to get better.
It's all been sorted now anyway, it seems 19 magicka isn't enough to make an unmorphed ability even remotely good.
LOL! And you complain about low dmg.... just, please stop.I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.
Power Extraction and Sap Essence are pretty decent but "Drain Power" is completely underpowered compared to every other unmorphed ability I've ever unlocked.
...but... You intend to morph it right? Then just keep it on your bar until it's ready
Yes, but that still doesn't deny that Drain Power is super weak and near worthless.
Well you're not supposed to wreck everything with an unleveled skill. You'll live through it, trust me.
There's a difference between wrecking everything and doing the tiniest damage ever which is probably less damage than a light attack, none of the other unmorphed abilities gave me the same kind of trouble as this one has.
I do think you completely ignored that code explained that the unmorphed version of that skill will scale of you Spell Damage and Max Magica.
You've clearly specced into Stamina and Weapon damage, so you must have really low Spell Damage and Max Magic, so the skill would be very weak because of this.
I have 19 Magicka, 20 Health, and 22 Stamina.
Compared to Sap Essence, Power Extraction probably deserves a slight buff.
I think it should either grant Major Vitality to be the stamina counterpart to Sap Essence in terms of healing utility, which would make it a good synergy with Vigor, Rally and DW HoTs.
Or it could apply Minor Mangle, like Pulsar, decreasing enemy health by 10%. That would fit the theme of the skill quite well.