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Drain Power - WORST ABILITY EVER?
Veuth
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Drain Power for the NB is the most garbage ability I've ever used. This is the last ability unlocked in the Siphoning skill line so it makes zero sense how this is super weak in comparison to just about everything else.
This ability only does 1k AoE damage in total which is TERRIBLE because the average enemy I come across has approximately 45k health. The healing sucks too and even Rendering Slashes
(the first ability in the Dual Wield skill line) heals me more than this ability.
Drain Power seriously needs a MAJOR buff!
Inb4 "L2P" & "this is the best ability evurr! i hope they nerf it!!"
This ability only does 1k AoE damage in total which is TERRIBLE because the average enemy I come across has approximately 45k health. The healing sucks too and even Rendering Slashes
(the first ability in the Dual Wield skill line) heals me more than this ability.
Drain Power seriously needs a MAJOR buff!
Inb4 "L2P" & "this is the best ability evurr! i hope they nerf it!!"
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KranderH✭✭I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Since you mention dual-wield abilities, I am going to assume that you are a stamina nightblade. And since you mention healing, I am going to assume that you are using Sap Essence.
Sap Essence (as well as the base unmorphed ability) are both magicka abilities. Their potency scales off of your spell power and the size of your magicka pool. If you have all your points in stamina and are using dual-wield, you should not being using the magicka version of Drain Power--you need to use the stamina Power Extraction version. Which actually has a higher tooltip damage value than the standard stamina AoE ability (Steel Tornado). (Tough steelnado is still better due to the various DW passives an the damage boost to low-health enemies.)
If you want to use Sap Essence (the version that heals), you need to spec as a magicka nightblade--i.e., every attribute point in magicka. Sap is a very powerful ability--one of the best and most versatile AoEs in the entire game.
So, yes, this is very much a L2P issues. And "Inb4" doesn't really work when you're making the first post.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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Veuth✭✭✭Since you mention dual-wield abilities, I am going to assume that you are a stamina nightblade. And since you mention healing, I am going to assume that you are using Sap Essence.
Sap Essence (as well as the base unmorphed ability) are both magicka abilities. Their potency scales off of your spell power and the size of your magicka pool. If you have all your points in stamina and are using dual-wield, you should not being using the magicka version of Drain Power--you need to use the stamina Power Extraction version. Which actually has a higher tooltip damage value than the standard stamina AoE ability (Steel Tornado). (Tough steelnado is still better due to the various DW passives an the damage boost to low-health enemies.)
If you want to use Sap Essence (the version that heals), you need to spec as a magicka nightblade--i.e., every attribute point in magicka. Sap is a very powerful ability--one of the best and most versatile AoEs in the entire game.
So, yes, this is very much a L2P issues. And "Inb4" doesn't really work when you're making the first post.
Nope, I don't have Sap Essence since the very title says "Drain Power" meaning I haven't morphed it yet.0 -
Veuth✭✭✭I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.
Sap Essence is pretty decent but "Drain Power" and possibly "Power Extraction" is completely underpowered compared to every other ability I've ever unlocked.Edited by Veuth on February 15, 2017 4:38AM1 -
KranderH✭✭I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.
Power Extraction and Sap Essence are pretty decent but "Drain Power" is completely underpowered compared to every other unmorphed ability I've ever unlocked.
...but... You intend to morph it right? Then just keep it on your bar until it's ready
Edited by KranderH on February 15, 2017 4:40AM2 -
Veuth✭✭✭I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.
Power Extraction and Sap Essence are pretty decent but "Drain Power" is completely underpowered compared to every other unmorphed ability I've ever unlocked.
...but... You intend to morph it right? Then just keep it on your bar until it's ready
Yes, but that still doesn't deny that Drain Power is super weak and near worthless.0 -
KranderH✭✭I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.
Power Extraction and Sap Essence are pretty decent but "Drain Power" is completely underpowered compared to every other unmorphed ability I've ever unlocked.
...but... You intend to morph it right? Then just keep it on your bar until it's ready
Yes, but that still doesn't deny that Drain Power is super weak and near worthless.
Well you're not supposed to wreck everything with an unleveled skill. You'll live through it, trust me.4 -
Veuth✭✭✭I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.
Power Extraction and Sap Essence are pretty decent but "Drain Power" is completely underpowered compared to every other unmorphed ability I've ever unlocked.
...but... You intend to morph it right? Then just keep it on your bar until it's ready
Yes, but that still doesn't deny that Drain Power is super weak and near worthless.
Well you're not supposed to wreck everything with an unleveled skill. You'll live through it, trust me.
There's a difference between wrecking everything and doing the tiniest damage ever which is probably less damage than a light attack, none of the other unmorphed abilities gave me the same kind of trouble as this one has.0 -
Metafae✭✭✭✭✭Dude, wait till you morph it, then come back here and rage about how it sucks.
You'll find that it's not as bad as you think it is.
Code is right, its got decent damage and can be compared to steel tornado, but as he said, steel tornado does better due to passives and having a built in execute. Buy if you were using a two hander for some reason, it becomes a useful skill to have for AoE.5 -
Metafae✭✭✭✭✭I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.
Power Extraction and Sap Essence are pretty decent but "Drain Power" is completely underpowered compared to every other unmorphed ability I've ever unlocked.
...but... You intend to morph it right? Then just keep it on your bar until it's ready
Yes, but that still doesn't deny that Drain Power is super weak and near worthless.
Well you're not supposed to wreck everything with an unleveled skill. You'll live through it, trust me.
There's a difference between wrecking everything and doing the tiniest damage ever which is probably less damage than a light attack, none of the other unmorphed abilities gave me the same kind of trouble as this one has.
I do think you completely ignored that code explained that the unmorphed version of that skill will scale of you Spell Damage and Max Magica.
You've clearly specced into Stamina and Weapon damage, so you must have really low Spell Damage and Max Magic, so the skill would be very weak because of this.5 -
Veuth✭✭✭Dude, wait till you morph it, then come back here and rage about how it sucks.
You'll find that it's not as bad as you think it is.
Code is right, its got decent damage and can be compared to steel tornado, but as he said, steel tornado does better due to passives and having a built in execute. Buy if you were using a two hander for some reason, it becomes a useful skill to have for AoE.
Lol?? I'm not saying that Power Extraction and Sap Essence both suck, I'm saying the unmorphed version sucks so why would I come back and "rage" about it when I no longer have to deal with the incredibly weak version?
Every other unmorphed ability was NEVER as weak as this one.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I remember when power extraction gave you +99% weapon damage. ..PS4 / NA
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KranderH✭✭I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.
Power Extraction and Sap Essence are pretty decent but "Drain Power" is completely underpowered compared to every other unmorphed ability I've ever unlocked.
...but... You intend to morph it right? Then just keep it on your bar until it's ready
Yes, but that still doesn't deny that Drain Power is super weak and near worthless.
Well you're not supposed to wreck everything with an unleveled skill. You'll live through it, trust me.
There's a difference between wrecking everything and doing the tiniest damage ever which is probably less damage than a light attack, none of the other unmorphed abilities gave me the same kind of trouble as this one has.
Remember that the unmorphed skill still scales of magicka. And as a stam user it won't do much until it's morphed4 -
Veuth✭✭✭I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.
Power Extraction and Sap Essence are pretty decent but "Drain Power" is completely underpowered compared to every other unmorphed ability I've ever unlocked.
...but... You intend to morph it right? Then just keep it on your bar until it's ready
Yes, but that still doesn't deny that Drain Power is super weak and near worthless.
Well you're not supposed to wreck everything with an unleveled skill. You'll live through it, trust me.
There's a difference between wrecking everything and doing the tiniest damage ever which is probably less damage than a light attack, none of the other unmorphed abilities gave me the same kind of trouble as this one has.
I do think you completely ignored that code explained that the unmorphed version of that skill will scale of you Spell Damage and Max Magica.
You've clearly specced into Stamina and Weapon damage, so you must have really low Spell Damage and Max Magic, so the skill would be very weak because of this.
I have 19 Magicka, 20 Health, and 22 Stamina.0 -
Metafae✭✭✭✭✭I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.
Power Extraction and Sap Essence are pretty decent but "Drain Power" is completely underpowered compared to every other unmorphed ability I've ever unlocked.
...but... You intend to morph it right? Then just keep it on your bar until it's ready
Yes, but that still doesn't deny that Drain Power is super weak and near worthless.
Well you're not supposed to wreck everything with an unleveled skill. You'll live through it, trust me.
There's a difference between wrecking everything and doing the tiniest damage ever which is probably less damage than a light attack, none of the other unmorphed abilities gave me the same kind of trouble as this one has.
I do think you completely ignored that code explained that the unmorphed version of that skill will scale of you Spell Damage and Max Magica.
You've clearly specced into Stamina and Weapon damage, so you must have really low Spell Damage and Max Magic, so the skill would be very weak because of this.
I have 19 Magicka, 20 Health, and 22 Stamina.
^^ Theres your problem. I think we can all move along from this thread now.37 -
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✭I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.
Power Extraction and Sap Essence are pretty decent but "Drain Power" is completely underpowered compared to every other unmorphed ability I've ever unlocked.
...but... You intend to morph it right? Then just keep it on your bar until it's ready
Yes, but that still doesn't deny that Drain Power is super weak and near worthless.
Well you're not supposed to wreck everything with an unleveled skill. You'll live through it, trust me.
There's a difference between wrecking everything and doing the tiniest damage ever which is probably less damage than a light attack, none of the other unmorphed abilities gave me the same kind of trouble as this one has.
I do think you completely ignored that code explained that the unmorphed version of that skill will scale of you Spell Damage and Max Magica.
You've clearly specced into Stamina and Weapon damage, so you must have really low Spell Damage and Max Magic, so the skill would be very weak because of this.
I have 19 Magicka, 20 Health, and 22 Stamina.
Spending points in multiple trees like that will make you a jack of all trades master of none and this game is not set up to accommodate a proper true hybrid playstyle (unless you're a tank), even when solo focus one stat and it's tree of buffs/debuffs and adjust your skills/morphs to suit. Your damage, heals, shields etc need to come from one source if you want them to be powerful.Edited by SienneYviete on February 15, 2017 6:01AMDelta
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✭✭✭✭OP doesn't want to hear l2p, but that's exactly what needs to happen. What to do?11 -
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✭All classes have useless skills - especially as unmorphed. Just keep it there on your bar to level your skill and skill branch to 50.
For stamina the skill is not good. But when i level up a magblade i push hard on siphoning to reach it. And when it morphs to Sap Essence the world's mine oyster, which I with, um .. staff, will open.
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Nidro✭✭✭Lol... L2P?
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"Drain Power for the NB is the most garbage ability I've ever used."
I cannot argue with that statement since I do not know what skills you have used.
But let me say that your statement, while perhaps true as stated, would not be true if the word "I've" was removed from it.
That is something you should consider as you move forward with your NB.
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✭✭✭✭Really, morph it to Power Extraction. It deals disease damage, which scales off stamina and weapon damage. And pour your attributes into stamina if you're using dual wield abilities. Unlike Skyrim, hybrids aren't that good if you aren't a tank. Either magicka or stamina, but not both. Do take all this advice seriously. You won't get better and most certainly won't be ready for end-game content if you ignore everyone's advice.Sorcerer's pretty much been the same for years. Nerf Rush of Agony and Saints&Seducer's2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭For what its worth, power extraction imo sucks, would I love if they changed/buffed it, hell yes.
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