Drain Power - WORST ABILITY EVER?

kylewwefan

So, before overlooking the rest of NightBlade toolkit....magic abilities that do work well for you are siphoned attacks, mirage, mass hysteria, etc.

Cronopoly

Veuth wrote: »

ku5h wrote: »

So basicly OP is complaining that magicka based skill is weak on stamina setup. lol

Every other magicka based skill/ability worked perfectly.

Hi Veuth, No they do NOT. In two years of experience they do not. You'll find this out on your own if you hang around.

You also were reacting in the thread instead of filtering out the emotion and seeing the advice you were given. As to your question "how was i supposed to react?" statement. No one was getting on your case until you showed it was a sore spot. (There's a general Internet lesson in there somewhere...). No one here knows you or pretends to. I'm actually trying to be helpful writing too much to boot.

With that said,
The magicka skills you talked to "that supposedly are fine" are actually weaker than they would be compared to a person that fully specced Magicka & Spelldmg. All your stamina skills (including a Stamina morphed Drain power) would be way more powerful if all your gear had Stamina Enchants, and your gear's stats favored Stamina / Physical Dmg. Every top level experienced person in the game knows this inside and out only from doing the same as you at some point in the past when we started the game.

BTW Never Ever use the Pelinal's Aptitude set...you'll regret it...

Good day.

hmsdragonfly

Veuth wrote: »

Metafae wrote: »

Veuth wrote: »

KranderH wrote: »

Veuth wrote: »

KranderH wrote: »

Veuth wrote: »

KranderH wrote: »

I suggest you morph (and level up) the ability. Since it's an aoe it won't do the big numbers but it can be decent in some situations. Especially since it provides major brutality.
Power extraction, the stamina morph, does 13-15k dmg per target for me. Not as good as steel tornado but a decent alternative.

Power Extraction and Sap Essence are pretty decent but "Drain Power" is completely underpowered compared to every other unmorphed ability I've ever unlocked.

...but... You intend to morph it right? Then just keep it on your bar until it's ready

Yes, but that still doesn't deny that Drain Power is super weak and near worthless.

Well you're not supposed to wreck everything with an unleveled skill. You'll live through it, trust me.

There's a difference between wrecking everything and doing the tiniest damage ever which is probably less damage than a light attack, none of the other unmorphed abilities gave me the same kind of trouble as this one has.

I do think you completely ignored that code explained that the unmorphed version of that skill will scale of you Spell Damage and Max Magica.

You've clearly specced into Stamina and Weapon damage, so you must have really low Spell Damage and Max Magic, so the skill would be very weak because of this.

I have 19 Magicka, 20 Health, and 22 Stamina.

If you want to go hybrid you will need Pelinals. But since you are new to the game and obviously don't know about certain game mechanics, I highly suggest NOT going hybrid. Spec everything into either mag or stam, then go full weapon damage if you spec everything into stam, and spell dmg if you spec everything into mag.

hmsdragonfly

Cronopoly wrote: »

BTW Never Ever use the Pelinal's Aptitude set...you'll regret it...

Say it again, I dare you, I double dare you.

Pelinals is pretty decent IF you know what you are doing.

Nemesis626

Yeah, you must be doing something wrong. I have the morph, Sap Essence, on my bloodmage healer and it's amazing. Hits for 6 - 8k per target and heals too. I always use it on groups of three or more.

Marneman

Jumping in here but ... I have a CP780 something NB but I never really looked at Drain Power and its morphs. So I decided to start leveling them up.

My light attacks do 1437. I cast Drain Power which is supposed to offer 20% weapon damage via Major Brutality, and my light attacks still say 1437 What am I missing? It is indeed hitting the targets, as I can see the buff on my character screen. Any ideas?

Feanor

Today seems to be thread Necro day. Wow.

Marneman

Well, I just searched for Drain Power and saw the last comment on this post was Feb 17, so I didn't intentionally necro hehe.

Marneman

Whoops, forgot it was 2018 ... dammit!

Feanor

@Marneman

Happens to the best of us . Have an awesome.

kylewwefan

You have to hit something with it before it gives you major brutally.

Edit

The regular one is for magic. You have to morph to power extraction for brutality.

Marneman

See my OP, I get the buff .... I am hitting the targets.

shinikaze

I do believe that the stam morph needs some love... maybe minor maim to honor it's name , but overall it' is kind of goodish form of aoe for those that wear sword and board and 2 handed.

aeowulf

check it, screenshot it, bug it

OP was right about one thing though, Drain Power/Power extraction is still a trash skill for stamblade. Comes under the category of weapon skill > class skill. Shame, would love it if it was just identical to a 'max passived whirlwind' or if it would actually drain power (resources) from enemies.

Feanor

aeowulf wrote: »

check it, screenshot it, bug it

OP was right about one thing though, Drain Power/Power extraction is still a trash skill for stamblade. Comes under the category of weapon skill > class skill. Shame, would love it if it was just identical to a 'max passived whirlwind' or if it would actually drain power (resources) from enemies.

You can run Forward Momentum though of you get Major Brutality with Drain Power. The biggest issue is you cannot pre-buff.

SquareSausage

Feanor wrote: »

aeowulf wrote: »

check it, screenshot it, bug it

OP was right about one thing though, Drain Power/Power extraction is still a trash skill for stamblade. Comes under the category of weapon skill > class skill. Shame, would love it if it was just identical to a 'max passived whirlwind' or if it would actually drain power (resources) from enemies.

You can run Forward Momentum though of you get Major Brutality with Drain Power. The biggest issue is you cannot pre-buff.

why run both as they both give major brutality.

Feanor

SquareSausage wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

aeowulf wrote: »

check it, screenshot it, bug it

OP was right about one thing though, Drain Power/Power extraction is still a trash skill for stamblade. Comes under the category of weapon skill > class skill. Shame, would love it if it was just identical to a 'max passived whirlwind' or if it would actually drain power (resources) from enemies.

You can run Forward Momentum though of you get Major Brutality with Drain Power. The biggest issue is you cannot pre-buff.

why run both as they both give major brutality.

D‘oh. You’re right of course. Should stay away from the forums for an extended period.

Illurian

Marneman wrote: »

Whoops, forgot it was 2018 ... dammit!

I wanted to scream NECROOOOOO with my pitch fork but you made me laugh so have an awesome.

Koensol

I used to run power extraction on my stamblade 2h/bow build in pve and it was decent. But since I got the master 2h, brawler is just that much better for pure AoE.

Zorgon_The_Revenged

The OP hasn't been to the forums since July 2017......I honestly don't think he'll be taking anymore advice.

Yamenstein

Veuth wrote: »

I have already morphed it now and it works like a charm, the unmorphed version still needs improving though because the damage is so small it's pointless to use despite being the last ability in the Siphoning skill line.

Every other MAGICKA based ability has worked perfectly for me EXCEPT this one, which leads me to believe it's underpowered. 19 Magicka is quite a lot so it makes no sense how it does weak damage.

lul scrub git gud l2p noob ez

There, I just saved you the trouble.

It's all relative though. You said before as well that other Magicka abilities have worked perfectly for you, with 19 points into Magicka, but it hasn't. Yeah you might be happy with the damage that those skills were doing but it's nothing compared to what other players are pulling with the same skill, even the unmorphed version.

Unmorphed skills aren't really viable when you're playing end game content, is it possible to use ? Yes. Are you gimping yourself? Yes.

Lynx7386

Marneman wrote: »

See my OP, I get the buff .... I am hitting the targets.

Couple of things I can think of that may be causing this. First off, be aware that power extraction grants major brutality which increases the weapon damage stat, it's not going to directly give 20% more to your light/heavy attacks.

Second, what weapon are you using? You may already be gaining major brutality from something like hidden blade/shrouded daggers or rally/forward momentum, in which case the buff from power extraction does not stack and will offer nothing extra.

ccfeeling

Both morph suck...
Dont slot it if u a dps.