NovaShadow wrote: »I didn't realise the DLC was already released.
It must've been for you cannot possibly say something is valuable until you've experienced it.
Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Two things are going on here.
ESO offering a sizable chunk of content for a decent price = GOOD
ESO changing their business model yet again and screwing over existing subscribers = BAD
If my wireless carrier offers a new plan that gives me a ton of data for a reasonable price, then that is a good deal on its own merits.
However, if my existing plan had rollover data, and the company tells me that all of my rollover data cant be used in the new plan, then I feel screwed for paying a higher price for a currency I felt i could use for future service.
FWIW, that happens all the time.Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »However, if my existing plan had rollover data, and the company tells me that all of my rollover data cant be used in the new plan, then I feel screwed for paying a higher price for a currency I felt i could use for future service.
willlienellson wrote: »NovaShadow wrote: »I didn't realise the DLC was already released.
It must've been for you cannot possibly say something is valuable until you've experienced it.
I've never bought a vial of crack.
I've also never bought a bulldozer.
Yet I can objectively say there is more "value" in the bulldozer than a vial of crack.
willlienellson wrote: »When did Zos promise that all future content would be available for crowns? I think people made assumptions based on the fact that DLC's were available for crowns, and they could save their crowns to buy them, that ALL FUTURE content would be delivered in the same way. I think that was foolish.
Furthermore, Zos is free at any point to change it's membership offering for the future. As consumers we don't get to "cry foul" when a company chooses to offer a different product for a different price in the future. We only get to cry foul when they misrepresent a product for sale.
NovaShadow wrote: »I didn't realise the DLC was already released.
It must've been for you cannot possibly say something is valuable until you've experienced it.
Downloadable content (DLC) is additional content created for a released video game. It is distributed through the Internet by the game's official publisher. Downloadable content can be of several types, ranging from aesthetic outfit changes to a new, extensive storyline, similar to an expansion pack. As such, DLC may add new game modes, objects, levels, challenges or other features to a complete, already released game.
for a trail and a class....and a zone...and quests...and battleground pvp....and a free motif...and a costume....and a mount..and whatever else.40$ for a trial and a class(that may or may not be good) doesn't scream value to me.
Pretty great looking mount comes included free with presale.And yes, I will spend 70 euros on digital CE upgrade. 30 euros for mount I like..
Do you have any idea how crazy that sounds? FOREVER?Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Full access to DLC was promised to subscribers in perpetuity.
willlienellson wrote: »Do you have any idea how crazy that sounds? FOREVER?Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Full access to DLC was promised to subscribers in perpetuity.
World of Warcraft is 13 years old. So, you think Zos promised you that something it released in 2027 will be included in the subscription model created in 2014?
Reading these threads, if I were Zos, I would say, "Subscriptions now include access to Morrowind. Cause you say we promised. But subscriptions now cost $29.99 a month.
Seriously, would you people feel better if the subscription included what you feel "entitled" to but the subscription cost doubled or tripled in price? Or did Zos promise you content forever and the 2014 prices forever too? lolol
Can I get a source on this "promise in perpetuity"?Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »I don't care how crazy it sounds. It wasn't my promise.
Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Two things are going on here.
ESO offering a sizable chunk of content for a decent price = GOOD
ESO changing their business model yet again and screwing over existing subscribers = BAD
If my wireless carrier offers a new plan that gives me a ton of data for a reasonable price, then that is a good deal on its own merits.
However, if my existing plan had rollover data, and the company tells me that all of my rollover data cant be used anymore when the new plan is launched, then I feel screwed for paying a higher price for a currency I felt i could use for future service.
I'm convinced the forum will always be a *** storm no matter what happens.driosketch wrote: »ZOS will make money on this, no doubt. And if that's all they care about, fine, but they could have been having fun too. The forums should've been full of hype post rather than this ****storm.
willlienellson wrote: »People are always trying to judge the "ethics" of companies based on things like their social responsibility or their environmental impact, but way back in the day we judged a company's ethics by if they delivered VALUE to consumers. It's still one of the cornerstones of business ethics (for people actually in business) and is the other side of the coin of Marketing.
Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Full access to DLC was promised to subscribers in perpetuity.
willlienellson wrote: »Can I get a source on this "promise in perpetuity"?
... I'm anxious to read these wedding vow like promises Zos made to you.
Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Two things are going on here.
ESO offering a sizable chunk of content for a decent price = GOOD
ESO changing their business model yet again and screwing over existing subscribers = BAD
If my wireless carrier offers a new plan that gives me a ton of data for a reasonable price, then that is a good deal on its own merits.
However, if my existing plan had rollover data, and the company tells me that all of my rollover data cant be used anymore when the new plan is launched, then I feel screwed for paying a higher price for a currency I felt i could use for future service.
willlienellson wrote: »
I'll give you an analogy of my own.
A local restaurant has hamburgers on sale for $1.
So you buy a $30 gift card thinking you will go eat one hamburger each day for a month.
The next day you find out the sale is over and hamburgers are now $2.50
So you feel betrayed.
But you weren't.